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		By: The Black Book of the American Left &#124; angryid		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/14/what-the-newer-left-learned-from-the-older-left/#comment-688741</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Black Book of the American Left &#124; angryid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 11:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] David Horowitz: what the newer left learned from the older left (neoneocon.com) [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] David Horowitz: what the newer left learned from the older left (neoneocon.com) [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: R7 Rocket		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/14/what-the-newer-left-learned-from-the-older-left/#comment-676113</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R7 Rocket]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Erisguy said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Technology and vast populations require experts to govern us. Experts in government are lawyers, who study, write, legislate, and interpret law. We can choose only from factions among the lawyers, which is why Democrats innovate (New Deal, New Frontier, Great Society, Obamacare) and Republican conserve (never repeal any innovation).

The expert politicians require expert managers to elaborate the laws and oversee the management of the subjects. These experts are bureaucrats. They require large, expensive, enduring bureaucracies. In turn they require expert concerned scientists.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

When the US was transitioning from an agrarian culture to a complex industrialized culture in the early 19th century, the US Senators were experts appointed by state legislatures to perform the function of the concerned scientist-regulator. The difference was that the old-time Senator was accountable to the state governments while the concerned scientist-regulator is anonymous and unaccountable. Just the way the progressives in the ruling Cathedral likes it. The Prog amendments in the early 20th century laid the foundation for the establishment of the Cathedral in the 1930&#039;s and 1940&#039;s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erisguy said:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Technology and vast populations require experts to govern us. Experts in government are lawyers, who study, write, legislate, and interpret law. We can choose only from factions among the lawyers, which is why Democrats innovate (New Deal, New Frontier, Great Society, Obamacare) and Republican conserve (never repeal any innovation).</p>
<p>The expert politicians require expert managers to elaborate the laws and oversee the management of the subjects. These experts are bureaucrats. They require large, expensive, enduring bureaucracies. In turn they require expert concerned scientists.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>When the US was transitioning from an agrarian culture to a complex industrialized culture in the early 19th century, the US Senators were experts appointed by state legislatures to perform the function of the concerned scientist-regulator. The difference was that the old-time Senator was accountable to the state governments while the concerned scientist-regulator is anonymous and unaccountable. Just the way the progressives in the ruling Cathedral likes it. The Prog amendments in the early 20th century laid the foundation for the establishment of the Cathedral in the 1930&#8217;s and 1940&#8217;s.</p>
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		By: R7 Rocket		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/14/what-the-newer-left-learned-from-the-older-left/#comment-676107</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R7 Rocket]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The left is coming up against the largest internal arms race in history. Not even the Afghans, Somalis, and Yemenis come even close in individual armament. Half of the world&#039;s personal weapons (the total amount of personal weapons also includes weapons in the hands of every military and police force in the world) are in the hands of American citizens. Their fate will be the same as the Afghan communists and their Soviet allies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The left is coming up against the largest internal arms race in history. Not even the Afghans, Somalis, and Yemenis come even close in individual armament. Half of the world&#8217;s personal weapons (the total amount of personal weapons also includes weapons in the hands of every military and police force in the world) are in the hands of American citizens. Their fate will be the same as the Afghan communists and their Soviet allies.</p>
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		By: Otto Maddox		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/14/what-the-newer-left-learned-from-the-older-left/#comment-675114</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Otto Maddox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Freedom is an illusion.....Socialism more closely matches human nature than liberty.&quot;

I&#039;d say you&#039;re part of the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Freedom is an illusion&#8230;..Socialism more closely matches human nature than liberty.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say you&#8217;re part of the problem.</p>
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		By: A View of a Story Still Unfolding &#124; Grumpa Joe&#039;s Place		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/14/what-the-newer-left-learned-from-the-older-left/#comment-674966</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A View of a Story Still Unfolding &#124; Grumpa Joe&#039;s Place]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] David Horowitz: what the newer left learned from the older left (neoneocon.com) [...]]]></description>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/14/what-the-newer-left-learned-from-the-older-left/#comment-674219</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Put Horowitz in charge.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put Horowitz in charge.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/14/what-the-newer-left-learned-from-the-older-left/#comment-673640</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 14:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Every single service or benefit of Western civilization would work better from a bottom up perspective than an authoritarian one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every single service or benefit of Western civilization would work better from a bottom up perspective than an authoritarian one.</p>
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		By: ErisGuy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/14/what-the-newer-left-learned-from-the-older-left/#comment-673600</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ErisGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 12:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Never forget as we mourn the destruction of the West and its replacement by an as yet unnamed new civilization of feminism (started by communists de beauvoir and friedan), homosexuality, and socialism, that the American people voted to implement it at every election by voting for Democrats to further it and Republicans to conserve it.

It is the voters who are responsible.

I don’t wonder by Obama and his clique think, do and speak evil, I wonder why people vote for it, cheer for it, and submit to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never forget as we mourn the destruction of the West and its replacement by an as yet unnamed new civilization of feminism (started by communists de beauvoir and friedan), homosexuality, and socialism, that the American people voted to implement it at every election by voting for Democrats to further it and Republicans to conserve it.</p>
<p>It is the voters who are responsible.</p>
<p>I don’t wonder by Obama and his clique think, do and speak evil, I wonder why people vote for it, cheer for it, and submit to it.</p>
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		By: ErisGuy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/14/what-the-newer-left-learned-from-the-older-left/#comment-673594</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ErisGuy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 12:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Why would they want to live in an oppressed nation? I see it happening but I cannot understand why any human born free would want to change a free land into something so abominable.&lt;/i&gt;

Because they wish to live in truth. 

Technology and vast populations require experts to govern us. Experts in government are lawyers, who study, write, legislate, and interpret law. We can choose only from factions among the lawyers, which is why Democrats innovate (New Deal, New Frontier, Great Society, Obamacare) and Republican conserve (never repeal any innovation). 

The expert politicians require expert managers to elaborate the laws and oversee the management of the subjects. These experts are bureaucrats. They require large, expensive, enduring bureaucracies. In turn they require expert concerned scientists.

These expert scientists have abandoned the search for knowledge instead to search for problems which need policy solutions. 

Do you really imagine the vast technological networks in computers, water, electricity, petroleum, and trade could function without lawyers, bureaucrats and concerned scientists?

Modern technocracy cannot function without this political system, which, in terms of the past (new terms will be invented) can best be described as fascism.

Freedom is an illusion, best sustained by an ideology of self-development and self-indulgence: that is, the freedom to be a promiscuous body-builder. Any other kind of freedom is simply sabotage and, as the Soviets put it, wrecking.

Socialism more closely matches human nature than liberty. It supplies the hierarchy from Big Man to Little People; it supplies popular social justice in its persecution of racists, sexists, homophobes; it supplies the kind of liberty people really want: freedom from those old oppressive moral codes of Judaism and Christianity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Why would they want to live in an oppressed nation? I see it happening but I cannot understand why any human born free would want to change a free land into something so abominable.</i></p>
<p>Because they wish to live in truth. </p>
<p>Technology and vast populations require experts to govern us. Experts in government are lawyers, who study, write, legislate, and interpret law. We can choose only from factions among the lawyers, which is why Democrats innovate (New Deal, New Frontier, Great Society, Obamacare) and Republican conserve (never repeal any innovation). </p>
<p>The expert politicians require expert managers to elaborate the laws and oversee the management of the subjects. These experts are bureaucrats. They require large, expensive, enduring bureaucracies. In turn they require expert concerned scientists.</p>
<p>These expert scientists have abandoned the search for knowledge instead to search for problems which need policy solutions. </p>
<p>Do you really imagine the vast technological networks in computers, water, electricity, petroleum, and trade could function without lawyers, bureaucrats and concerned scientists?</p>
<p>Modern technocracy cannot function without this political system, which, in terms of the past (new terms will be invented) can best be described as fascism.</p>
<p>Freedom is an illusion, best sustained by an ideology of self-development and self-indulgence: that is, the freedom to be a promiscuous body-builder. Any other kind of freedom is simply sabotage and, as the Soviets put it, wrecking.</p>
<p>Socialism more closely matches human nature than liberty. It supplies the hierarchy from Big Man to Little People; it supplies popular social justice in its persecution of racists, sexists, homophobes; it supplies the kind of liberty people really want: freedom from those old oppressive moral codes of Judaism and Christianity.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2013 05:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The rest of America has police unions too, you know. Check out SWAT deaths in Florida. It&#039;s considered one of the best concealed carry states, for protection of self defense. Doesn&#039;t help the police kills though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rest of America has police unions too, you know. Check out SWAT deaths in Florida. It&#8217;s considered one of the best concealed carry states, for protection of self defense. Doesn&#8217;t help the police kills though.</p>
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