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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/09/all-you-snowden-fans/#comment-670274</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 03:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some people would always get mad at me for criticizing the State Department or some other government agency, since some of their crony family members were in and they took the criticism personally.

Yeah well, that&#039;ll be the last thing people have to worry about. It won&#039;t be words they will need fear, but bombs and bullets coming their way soon enough. One way or another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people would always get mad at me for criticizing the State Department or some other government agency, since some of their crony family members were in and they took the criticism personally.</p>
<p>Yeah well, that&#8217;ll be the last thing people have to worry about. It won&#8217;t be words they will need fear, but bombs and bullets coming their way soon enough. One way or another.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/09/all-you-snowden-fans/#comment-670095</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The guys who have said all these agencies are different animals now under Obama are correct.

The IRS and NSA are almost too complex to ponder.

But Obama did us a great favor when he allowed us to see what a Park Service Guard will do when a tyrant rules him - he becomes a servant of the tyrant.

The Park Service? Jack-booted thugs from now on is all they are. Miserable creeps who merit nothing but disdain and contempt.

We are about a few inches away from all out fascist rule. NO government agency, NO &quot;public servant&quot; (the term now being a cruel joke all by itself), can be trusted. They are all rotten. The whole thing needs to be reformed, inside out, top to bottom, upside to downside.

Never again will I give even a half ounce of respect to a government employee anywhere for anything,

They have shown their true colors. They have cast their own lots.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guys who have said all these agencies are different animals now under Obama are correct.</p>
<p>The IRS and NSA are almost too complex to ponder.</p>
<p>But Obama did us a great favor when he allowed us to see what a Park Service Guard will do when a tyrant rules him &#8211; he becomes a servant of the tyrant.</p>
<p>The Park Service? Jack-booted thugs from now on is all they are. Miserable creeps who merit nothing but disdain and contempt.</p>
<p>We are about a few inches away from all out fascist rule. NO government agency, NO &#8220;public servant&#8221; (the term now being a cruel joke all by itself), can be trusted. They are all rotten. The whole thing needs to be reformed, inside out, top to bottom, upside to downside.</p>
<p>Never again will I give even a half ounce of respect to a government employee anywhere for anything,</p>
<p>They have shown their true colors. They have cast their own lots.</p>
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		By: I R A Darth Aggie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/09/all-you-snowden-fans/#comment-670042</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a bit doubtful.

One does not broadcast to one&#039;s enemy that they can attack at will, with relative impunity.

It might be a some sort of bait. Or they&#039;re really incompetent, in which case I doubt Snowden&#039;s leakage makes that much of a difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit doubtful.</p>
<p>One does not broadcast to one&#8217;s enemy that they can attack at will, with relative impunity.</p>
<p>It might be a some sort of bait. Or they&#8217;re really incompetent, in which case I doubt Snowden&#8217;s leakage makes that much of a difference.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/09/all-you-snowden-fans/#comment-669851</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The FBI under admins prior to Nixon, were also engaged in similar collection of information on domestic political opponents in the US and funneling them to Democrats for the most part.

It&#039;s why I don&#039;t harbor any special enmity against Nixon, since he was being spied on as well. Whether the FBI was ordered to do so or whether internal elements of the FBI just did what they did for Democrats thinking it was Nixon&#039;s wish, or if they setup Nixon in a double blind deception is interesting to think on but just history now.

The NSA, IRS, Obamaca is not history though, not yet at least.

The COINintelpro operations by the FBI and Henry Hissinger did major damage to Leftist and black power type organizations. TO use the same federal agencies and federal powers against America, must feel very satisfying to these Leftist terrorists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FBI under admins prior to Nixon, were also engaged in similar collection of information on domestic political opponents in the US and funneling them to Democrats for the most part.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t harbor any special enmity against Nixon, since he was being spied on as well. Whether the FBI was ordered to do so or whether internal elements of the FBI just did what they did for Democrats thinking it was Nixon&#8217;s wish, or if they setup Nixon in a double blind deception is interesting to think on but just history now.</p>
<p>The NSA, IRS, Obamaca is not history though, not yet at least.</p>
<p>The COINintelpro operations by the FBI and Henry Hissinger did major damage to Leftist and black power type organizations. TO use the same federal agencies and federal powers against America, must feel very satisfying to these Leftist terrorists.</p>
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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/09/all-you-snowden-fans/#comment-669843</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The NSA has been in existence for 60 years, and suddenly it’s a secret fascist plot to control our precious essences?&lt;/i&gt;

And how long has the IRS been around for?

If Obama was able to co-opt the IRS for his own political ends, might he not have been able to do the same with the NSA? 

And if so, would that not have been a masterful stroke? Using the national snooping organization to dig dirt on your political opponents under the guise of &quot;national security&quot;----and then getting the neo-cons to defend the neutralization of those political opponents because, well, our national security is sacrosanct!!

Masterful indeed. (And sinister.)

File under: Bringing the Constitution into the 21st century!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The NSA has been in existence for 60 years, and suddenly it’s a secret fascist plot to control our precious essences?</i></p>
<p>And how long has the IRS been around for?</p>
<p>If Obama was able to co-opt the IRS for his own political ends, might he not have been able to do the same with the NSA? </p>
<p>And if so, would that not have been a masterful stroke? Using the national snooping organization to dig dirt on your political opponents under the guise of &#8220;national security&#8221;&#8212;-and then getting the neo-cons to defend the neutralization of those political opponents because, well, our national security is sacrosanct!!</p>
<p>Masterful indeed. (And sinister.)</p>
<p>File under: Bringing the Constitution into the 21st century!!</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/09/all-you-snowden-fans/#comment-669746</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/09/godaddy-pulls-lavabits-security-creds-because-the-government-got-ahold-of-its-encryption-keys/?utm_campaign=techtwittersf&#038;utm_source=twitter&#038;utm_medium=social

Stories like that are also why the &quot;paranoia&quot; isn&#039;t really as paranoid as it should be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/09/godaddy-pulls-lavabits-security-creds-because-the-government-got-ahold-of-its-encryption-keys/?utm_campaign=techtwittersf&#038;utm_source=twitter&#038;utm_medium=social" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/10/09/godaddy-pulls-lavabits-security-creds-because-the-government-got-ahold-of-its-encryption-keys/?utm_campaign=techtwittersf&#038;utm_source=twitter&#038;utm_medium=social</a></p>
<p>Stories like that are also why the &#8220;paranoia&#8221; isn&#8217;t really as paranoid as it should be.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/09/all-you-snowden-fans/#comment-669735</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 11:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;The NSA has been in existence for 60 years, and suddenly it’s a secret fascist plot to control our precious essences?&lt;/b&gt;

To highlight why so many people seem to be thinking along those lines, the park service were your friendly friends at parks.

Until Obama ordered them to put the rod down on the peasants, and many of them obeyed, though not all.

So under Bush, the NSA wasn&#039;t given directives to harm political enemies and so didn&#039;t go out of their way to do so. Under Obama and future Leftist Presidents, there&#039;s no guarantee about that. Character drives policy, at least for executives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The NSA has been in existence for 60 years, and suddenly it’s a secret fascist plot to control our precious essences?</b></p>
<p>To highlight why so many people seem to be thinking along those lines, the park service were your friendly friends at parks.</p>
<p>Until Obama ordered them to put the rod down on the peasants, and many of them obeyed, though not all.</p>
<p>So under Bush, the NSA wasn&#8217;t given directives to harm political enemies and so didn&#8217;t go out of their way to do so. Under Obama and future Leftist Presidents, there&#8217;s no guarantee about that. Character drives policy, at least for executives.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/09/all-you-snowden-fans/#comment-669643</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 08:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What, the NSA is supposed to tell you when they&#039;ve stopped some terrorists?  I don&#039;t thin&#039; so, Lucy. 

The NSA has been in existence for 60 years, and suddenly it&#039;s a secret fascist plot to control our precious essences?  The Espionage Act (18 USC Sec. 792- 799) has been substantially unchanged since 1950 and now it&#039;s a notion of honor, duty and patriotism which will be turned back upon you by this administration?

Nor is Snowden&#039;s intent particularly relevant -- did he &quot;knowingly and willfully communicate . . . to an unauthorized person any classified information . . .(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government?&quot;  (18 USC Sec. 798.)  Yup.  Up to 10 years in the slam, a fine, and forfeiture of assets, Snowie.  Too bad.

He went to Russia out of necessity?  Do you not remember that the chap who coined the term &quot;Civil Disobedience&quot; insisted that if you committed CD, you must be prepared and willing to go to jail for it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, the NSA is supposed to tell you when they&#8217;ve stopped some terrorists?  I don&#8217;t thin&#8217; so, Lucy. </p>
<p>The NSA has been in existence for 60 years, and suddenly it&#8217;s a secret fascist plot to control our precious essences?  The Espionage Act (18 USC Sec. 792- 799) has been substantially unchanged since 1950 and now it&#8217;s a notion of honor, duty and patriotism which will be turned back upon you by this administration?</p>
<p>Nor is Snowden&#8217;s intent particularly relevant &#8212; did he &#8220;knowingly and willfully communicate . . . to an unauthorized person any classified information . . .(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government?&#8221;  (18 USC Sec. 798.)  Yup.  Up to 10 years in the slam, a fine, and forfeiture of assets, Snowie.  Too bad.</p>
<p>He went to Russia out of necessity?  Do you not remember that the chap who coined the term &#8220;Civil Disobedience&#8221; insisted that if you committed CD, you must be prepared and willing to go to jail for it?</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/09/all-you-snowden-fans/#comment-669435</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;We do not yet know his full purpose.&quot; &lt;i&gt;Galadriel&lt;/i&gt;
&quot;...before this is over, the [posturing] of [Snowden] may rule the fate of many.&quot; &lt;i&gt;Gandalf&lt;/i&gt;

Ha.
But seriously, I wondered if conservatives staying home in 2012 wasn&#039;t the wrong thing. Maybe it&#039;s sour grapes, but I now believe Obama needed to be re-elected in order to seal the doom of liberalism.
If Snowden&#039;s case was the one that got the young, hip, tech-savvy Obama voters to question their assumptions then it&#039;s a good thing.
Only time will tell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We do not yet know his full purpose.&#8221; <i>Galadriel</i><br />
&#8220;&#8230;before this is over, the [posturing] of [Snowden] may rule the fate of many.&#8221; <i>Gandalf</i></p>
<p>Ha.<br />
But seriously, I wondered if conservatives staying home in 2012 wasn&#8217;t the wrong thing. Maybe it&#8217;s sour grapes, but I now believe Obama needed to be re-elected in order to seal the doom of liberalism.<br />
If Snowden&#8217;s case was the one that got the young, hip, tech-savvy Obama voters to question their assumptions then it&#8217;s a good thing.<br />
Only time will tell.</p>
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		By: kit		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2013 02:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snowden is a  traitor  and a coward who is hiding in Russia, of all places.  The mistake is that some people may think he did something  beneficial against the Obama regime. He did not hurt Obama. He hurt us. It was all a game to him. In his mind he was the star of his own sick spy thriller.
A nerdy guy pretending to be Janes Bond.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snowden is a  traitor  and a coward who is hiding in Russia, of all places.  The mistake is that some people may think he did something  beneficial against the Obama regime. He did not hurt Obama. He hurt us. It was all a game to him. In his mind he was the star of his own sick spy thriller.<br />
A nerdy guy pretending to be Janes Bond.</p>
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