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		By: Gina		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/01/obama-says-come-let-us-reason-together/#comment-665574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 02:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As someone who&#039;s been applying for the Massachusetts version of Obmacare (without success) for three years I have a poem

â€¨I am ruled by the government and I am afraid; I must fill and file endless applications that are thrown away, but then I am guilty of missing the file-by date.  

When I call there are six menu options, each leading to another three that are still never answered by a human being; there is no brick and mortar office, no street address, I cannot be seen.  

The ways of the government are not sure; they are capricious, and will change quickly if your question is not on the menu of FAQ&#039;s or it is time for a diversity assessment and you&#039;re not in the needful category.  â€¨

There is no goodness or mercy; this government is the enemy; this government is not the Social Security that you have been paying into for 40 years; it&#039;s new and it wants your social and your 401k for ever and ever and ever Soros]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who&#8217;s been applying for the Massachusetts version of Obmacare (without success) for three years I have a poem</p>
<p>â€¨I am ruled by the government and I am afraid; I must fill and file endless applications that are thrown away, but then I am guilty of missing the file-by date.  </p>
<p>When I call there are six menu options, each leading to another three that are still never answered by a human being; there is no brick and mortar office, no street address, I cannot be seen.  </p>
<p>The ways of the government are not sure; they are capricious, and will change quickly if your question is not on the menu of FAQ&#8217;s or it is time for a diversity assessment and you&#8217;re not in the needful category.  â€¨</p>
<p>There is no goodness or mercy; this government is the enemy; this government is not the Social Security that you have been paying into for 40 years; it&#8217;s new and it wants your social and your 401k for ever and ever and ever Soros</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 20:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Beverly&lt;/b&gt;,

what you might try to say in that situation with the LA is this

&quot;Looks like you passed the test, comrade. I&#039;d hate to have to report you for having Republican or patriotic sympathies&quot;

If the Left isn&#039;t obvious enough for them, force them, divide them, with their own rules and fears.

If the Left&#039;s hold on the zombies is too hard to break, then take control of the strings, force them to bend and break to irrational directives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Beverly</b>,</p>
<p>what you might try to say in that situation with the LA is this</p>
<p>&#8220;Looks like you passed the test, comrade. I&#8217;d hate to have to report you for having Republican or patriotic sympathies&#8221;</p>
<p>If the Left isn&#8217;t obvious enough for them, force them, divide them, with their own rules and fears.</p>
<p>If the Left&#8217;s hold on the zombies is too hard to break, then take control of the strings, force them to bend and break to irrational directives.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/01/obama-says-come-let-us-reason-together/#comment-665391</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would consider it more important to destroy their will to fight, their self righteous indignation and moral certainty, than to win their votes.

You don&#039;t have to &quot;convince&quot; them of anything. You merely have to destroy their will to fight. Even zombies have to have a minimum desire or instinct for brains. Even if the will to fight on the part of the Leftist cannonfodder is about equal to an instinct&#039;s desire to fly towards a flame, destroy that desire, that instinct, that will.

It&#039;s not their votes you want to get, it&#039;s not beating them politically that is the method or goal, but breaking their will to fight, the back of their power, the spine of their command structure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would consider it more important to destroy their will to fight, their self righteous indignation and moral certainty, than to win their votes.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to &#8220;convince&#8221; them of anything. You merely have to destroy their will to fight. Even zombies have to have a minimum desire or instinct for brains. Even if the will to fight on the part of the Leftist cannonfodder is about equal to an instinct&#8217;s desire to fly towards a flame, destroy that desire, that instinct, that will.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not their votes you want to get, it&#8217;s not beating them politically that is the method or goal, but breaking their will to fight, the back of their power, the spine of their command structure.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/01/obama-says-come-let-us-reason-together/#comment-665389</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the principal concepts of ancient strategists was that brute force can win through attrition and numbers, sort of like how democracy works. But skill itself requires knowing oneself and one&#039;s enemy. In this case, knowing and understanding our humanity and the nature of the Left, our enemies.

After that, make your weaknesses appear as strengths, your strengths appear as weaknesses in order to deceive the enemy and win without relying on numbers or attrition.

Hit them where they are weak, not strong. Break their will to fight, so you don&#039;t take casualties actually fighting them.

If their stronghold is in front of you, don&#039;t contest it directly using brute strength or resistance, pitting your numbers against theirs.

In many ways, people of America have traditionally used voting and politics as a way to solve problems. But the Democrats are playing by different paradigms and this strategy of attrition, voter numbers, is in itself being predicted and thus a weakness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the principal concepts of ancient strategists was that brute force can win through attrition and numbers, sort of like how democracy works. But skill itself requires knowing oneself and one&#8217;s enemy. In this case, knowing and understanding our humanity and the nature of the Left, our enemies.</p>
<p>After that, make your weaknesses appear as strengths, your strengths appear as weaknesses in order to deceive the enemy and win without relying on numbers or attrition.</p>
<p>Hit them where they are weak, not strong. Break their will to fight, so you don&#8217;t take casualties actually fighting them.</p>
<p>If their stronghold is in front of you, don&#8217;t contest it directly using brute strength or resistance, pitting your numbers against theirs.</p>
<p>In many ways, people of America have traditionally used voting and politics as a way to solve problems. But the Democrats are playing by different paradigms and this strategy of attrition, voter numbers, is in itself being predicted and thus a weakness.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama is simply a bully, an Alinskyite bully. There is only one decent way to deal with a bully, any bully. That is Not To Cave In.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is simply a bully, an Alinskyite bully. There is only one decent way to deal with a bully, any bully. That is Not To Cave In.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/01/obama-says-come-let-us-reason-together/#comment-665366</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 18:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, I said I expected a clean CR within a week but now I&#039;m not so sure. The Obama administration is bungling the optics of the shutdown (WWII vet memorial, et. al.) and maybe the Republicans don&#039;t see so much downside to continuing the shutdown.
Now I don&#039;t know what&#039;s going to happen. It&#039;s all so exciting!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I said I expected a clean CR within a week but now I&#8217;m not so sure. The Obama administration is bungling the optics of the shutdown (WWII vet memorial, et. al.) and maybe the Republicans don&#8217;t see so much downside to continuing the shutdown.<br />
Now I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going to happen. It&#8217;s all so exciting!</p>
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		By: mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 18:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great incisiveness and succintity on the Alinsky attributes, Neo. (I know that&#039;s not a word but He&#039;s not a president, either.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great incisiveness and succintity on the Alinsky attributes, Neo. (I know that&#8217;s not a word but He&#8217;s not a president, either.)</p>
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		By: artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 18:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And if you cannot reason with an appetite directed at you, what can you do with it?

get out of its way]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if you cannot reason with an appetite directed at you, what can you do with it?</p>
<p>get out of its way</p>
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		By: artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/10/01/obama-says-come-let-us-reason-together/#comment-665342</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 18:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On what basis, on what grounds do they so casually stake their moral claims against the very lives of others?

they have the power to make the rules...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On what basis, on what grounds do they so casually stake their moral claims against the very lives of others?</p>
<p>they have the power to make the rules&#8230;</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 15:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Oldflyer Says:
October 1st, 2013 at 7:56 pm

Commented on another blog, that I used to worry about my kids. But, since they vote with their emotions, and rolled their eyes at me once too often, I regretfully decided that they can just reap what they sow.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I&#039;ve enjoyed reading Oldflyer&#039;s opinions and comments for some time now.

And if he could one day muster the energy for one more go round with his own kids, I&#039;d appreciate hearing his report back on their considered reaction some of the reflections he has offered here.

Most specifically and as usual for me, I would be interested in their answer as to exactly: &lt;b&gt;On what basis, on what grounds do they so casually stake their moral claims against the very lives of others?&lt;/b&gt;

Neo after some badgering has speculated that in the case of her communist Uncle, it was unreflective; and as he is now dead, it&#039;s too late to hold his feet to the fire in order to get a more precise answer.

Might Oldflyer&#039;s kids be persuaded to give their Dad a serious answer to his seriously asked question?

I hope so.

Because I&#039;m beginning to get the alarming feeling that a large portion of our current humanity, and not only leftist ideologues, have simply abandoned all reasoning, but instrumental reasoning.

And if you cannot reason with an appetite directed at you, what can you do with it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oldflyer Says:<br />
October 1st, 2013 at 7:56 pm</p>
<p>Commented on another blog, that I used to worry about my kids. But, since they vote with their emotions, and rolled their eyes at me once too often, I regretfully decided that they can just reap what they sow.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed reading Oldflyer&#8217;s opinions and comments for some time now.</p>
<p>And if he could one day muster the energy for one more go round with his own kids, I&#8217;d appreciate hearing his report back on their considered reaction some of the reflections he has offered here.</p>
<p>Most specifically and as usual for me, I would be interested in their answer as to exactly: <b>On what basis, on what grounds do they so casually stake their moral claims against the very lives of others?</b></p>
<p>Neo after some badgering has speculated that in the case of her communist Uncle, it was unreflective; and as he is now dead, it&#8217;s too late to hold his feet to the fire in order to get a more precise answer.</p>
<p>Might Oldflyer&#8217;s kids be persuaded to give their Dad a serious answer to his seriously asked question?</p>
<p>I hope so.</p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m beginning to get the alarming feeling that a large portion of our current humanity, and not only leftist ideologues, have simply abandoned all reasoning, but instrumental reasoning.</p>
<p>And if you cannot reason with an appetite directed at you, what can you do with it?</p>
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