If this influence is curtailed by a civil war, many things will be possible in the future that wasn’t, if only because US Democrats could force almost any country to bend knee to US policy while we get the blame for it in the years to come.

“My solution is to execute Palestinians proven of killing my people or allies.”

The Torah’s solution is even more radical, and it’s one that sidesteps all the issues in one fell swoop: Forcible relocation of the entire enemy population away from the Land of Israel.

I hope I will see it done in my lifetime.

It’s very simple.

We can extract as much information from them as needed, and when they are no longer useful, they should be disposed of as environmental wastes and toxic assets.

Unlike the Israelis, I do not consider God’s will to be something available for us or our enemies in the afterlife, I consider humans to be manifest expression of any divine will, if it exists and is not merely a higher state of existence/power.

Not being able to bury the intact body of your loved ones hurts, that is easy to understand. But if it hurts, then make the enemies feel it 1000 fold over.

“Cause pain before you injure. Injure before you maim. Maim before you kill. And if you must kill, make it a clean kill. Squeeze every drop of life from the opponent. Because life is so precious, it cannot be wasted, even in death.”

“Let him cut your skin, and you cut his flesh. Let him cut your flesh, and you cut his bones. Let him cut your bones, and you cut off his life.”

The Israelis can refuse to adhere to such concepts, ethical or moral. But neither I, nor God, can guarantee their survival.

Whether the one view or the other is the majority depends who’s the majority. The Ultra-Orthodox aren’t the majority yet, but they do have the highest birth rates.

I don’t agree with them, but I still wish I had their confidence.

It doesn’t surprise me that it’s a point of contention between one faction and another in orthodox Judaism.

Since when have Jews agreed on much of anything? 🙂

But I believe what I have stated is the majority view. I admit that orthodox Judaism is not my field of expertise, though.

“The ‘chosen people’ are not allowed, however, to be passive and just let the deity take care of their survival.”

You just pointed out one of the most contentious debates in Orthodox Judaism. The Religious-Zionists (of whom I am one) mostly believe Jews should act and expect God’s help in the course of their actions, while the Ultra-Orthodox tend to hold that all the Jews have to do is keep the Torah well enough and pray hard enough and then divine help will come in the form of natural-looking miracles at the very least. Secular leaders like Netanyahu don’t figure HaShem into it at all. This is one of the reasons why Leftist governments in Israel have been able to form coalitions with the Ultra-Orthodox parties.

We’re in a jam, no question about it. I haven’t been painting a rosy picture, only a hopeful one. As things currently seem, Israel’s wellbeing is as dependent on the stupidity of our enemies as it is on the wisdom of our leadership, which leaves much to be desired. And now with BHusseinO announcing that “Israel’s existence depends on the existence of a Palestinian state,” thereby putting the existence of the Jewish state up for grabs (if only in theory) and threatening her, things are looking even worse. But, as the saying here goes, we’ve survived Pharaoh, we’ll survive this too. Hussein is a dog tail flea tick in HaShem’s eyes.

Several posts above, Neo, you and I were writing responses to each other at the same time, where you posted that the prisoner exchange was for live prisoners. The one you were talking about did with life prisoners. The one I was talking about, of course, did not.

It wasn’t a minor error or discrepancy or one time deal. These were the ones Israel made exchanges.

If you believe the Israelis, whether individually or as a people, think they need “More Jews” in order to live and survive, then how do you explain this.

On February 21, 1962, Syria exchanged the body of an Israeli soldier it was holding for a Syrian soldier in Israeli captivity

In July 2008 Israel released long time serving Lebanese prisoner Samir al-Quntar, four Hezbollah fighters captured in the 2006 Lebanon war and the bodies of 199 Palestinian, Lebanese of Arab fighters captured by Israel in the past three decades. Kuntar had been convicted for his role in the 1979 Nahariya attack, which resulted in the deaths of four Israelis, including two small children. According to eyewitness accounts, Kuntar bludgeoned a four-year-old girl to death.[15][16] In exchange Hezbollah released the bodies of two Israeli soldiers (Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev) captured in a cross-border raid.

Religious beliefs about the sanctity of burial and the soul, may matter more than lives. But did they really believe this or did they just use Jewish beliefs for personal gain? Because if we are talking about the soul and some Heavenly reward in the after life, this is not about Isarelis Saving Lives.

The Chosen of God are those with a responsibility as well as a promise of reward. But the reward was not necessarily in this world. So it’s easy if a population believes that these transactions with terrorists are a duty, a trial, set upon them by God, given that they believe their rewards are in the after life or in a future unseen by humans. So they don’t ask their government for their rewards here, to preserve their lives.

When this kind of thinking comes from the government, it isn’t an earnest or true belief. It’s a tool people use to manipulate humans into doing things that might seem insane to the rest of us.

That’s because it’s hard to say what duties, what trials, what sacrifices are required of a person given their obligation to God. Because is the person talking about sacrifices the God, the Devil, or the government?

“Lovely touch that. Killing civilians and using them as doorstops. That little vignette describes the earnestness of war, the dead seriousness of it; the kind of all-encompassing condition that it is. To the Shabaabs, people – someone’s wife, child or husband – were just so many sandbags to be used in a tactical situation. Their attitude exemplifies the total commitment, the mental difference between a man at peace and stone killers at war – with us.

Yes with us and make no mistake about it.”

http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2013/09/23/the-assault-on-westgate-mall/