Just like the military officers who heard Hasan’s anti American ravings kept their head down, didn’t say or do anything about it cause the commanding officer, Casey, would have their careers destroyed for it.

And yet the vast vast VAST majority of schizophrenics are not violent. And the vast vast VAST majority of violent criminals are not schizophrenic.

I wonder whether Aaron Alexis had threatened violence along with his reporting of his delusions. One thing I do know is that he had committed violent acts; that should have raised a red flag in and of itself and prevented him from getting the job and security clearance he held.

Which is another way of saying I’d prefer to figure out how to defend myself against crazies than to rely on the Omnipotent and Wise government and society to do it for me.

Whenever a person abdicates his responsibility to himself and his duties to humanity, in order to let someone else protect against a threat, they are no longer fully human. They are just animals being “husbanded”. And animals can be slaughtered whenever the human deems it necessary.

And if that means the risk of dying increases… well, as the Ancients said, dying isn’t really the problem.

Normally, the help is there. It was for Alexis. The problem is dangerous mentally ill people who reject the help when they need it. It’s understandable why they would. It’s not like cancer where someone in their right mind recognizes an alien presence is in their body trying to kill them and must be defeated. These people don’t know they’re sick or don’t process that information rationally.

Involuntary treatment with no permanent cure that involves lifelong most-intimate invasions of mind and body with adverse side effects, often accompanied by confinement and loss of basic rights of person and property, is not an issue to take lightly. Not in America.

Infamous Devil’s Proof there. Only the devil could prove that something does not exist (God does not exist, etc).

I know it’s incredibly in this day and age, but there are still people who will go after the innocent family members of someone who wronged them.

like Democrats with Palin and Zim?

I agree. Drawing the line on the rights of potentially dangerous mentally ill people is a stalemated debate within the mental health community. In a political environment where the social good was really the top priority, the recent high visibility schizophrenic killings would be spurring a serious debate on mental health policies and public safety. Instead, the partisans are more interested in gun control proposals. Mental illness is a messier, murkier, more difficult issue than gun control that lacks political points in the game.