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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/09/17/the-navy-yard-killings-and-the-gun-control-advocates/#comment-657227</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the media didn&#039;t have spectacular events to propagandize about, they would go out and create them out of whole cloth.

Ever hear of Fast and Furious? Bush&#039;s supposed AWOL?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the media didn&#8217;t have spectacular events to propagandize about, they would go out and create them out of whole cloth.</p>
<p>Ever hear of Fast and Furious? Bush&#8217;s supposed AWOL?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/09/17/the-navy-yard-killings-and-the-gun-control-advocates/#comment-656913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I sat on a Court Martial back in the late 70s when a Marine who had been issued a weapon for sentry duty, went back to his quarters and killed his roommate over a lingering dispute.&lt;/b&gt;

That&#039;s the problem of the Marine being killed to solve.

Government policy should prioritize the security of the mission and civilians, over any risk or threat to a single member of the military.

This mimicks the argument that because guns are used for crimes, that civilians need to be disarmed to make it easier for police to catch criminals.

If weapons will prevent enemies of the US from attriting US forces, this is more important than whatever crimes individuals use it for.

Freedom requires sacrifice. It is not something one gets for free at the mall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I sat on a Court Martial back in the late 70s when a Marine who had been issued a weapon for sentry duty, went back to his quarters and killed his roommate over a lingering dispute.</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem of the Marine being killed to solve.</p>
<p>Government policy should prioritize the security of the mission and civilians, over any risk or threat to a single member of the military.</p>
<p>This mimicks the argument that because guns are used for crimes, that civilians need to be disarmed to make it easier for police to catch criminals.</p>
<p>If weapons will prevent enemies of the US from attriting US forces, this is more important than whatever crimes individuals use it for.</p>
<p>Freedom requires sacrifice. It is not something one gets for free at the mall.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/09/17/the-navy-yard-killings-and-the-gun-control-advocates/#comment-656912</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The government literally does not allow gun control for their death squads. Instead they prefer to disarm people so the terrorists have easy targets.

Just take a look at government weapon controls. here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeGD7r6s-zU]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government literally does not allow gun control for their death squads. Instead they prefer to disarm people so the terrorists have easy targets.</p>
<p>Just take a look at government weapon controls. here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeGD7r6s-zU" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeGD7r6s-zU</a></p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/09/17/the-navy-yard-killings-and-the-gun-control-advocates/#comment-656840</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[H/T Ace of Spades HQ

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H/T Ace of Spades HQ</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit</a></p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/09/17/the-navy-yard-killings-and-the-gun-control-advocates/#comment-656837</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Expat,

&quot;The gun control freaks are actually influenced more by status than by facts. They have to show that they are more civilized . . . &quot; than anyone who disagrees with them.

This is the premise behind every progressive argument on any topic.  IMO, never try to argue facts with a progressive whether the topic is gun control, climate change, fracking, or anything.  Always attack the underlying self-righteousness and sanctimony.  You&#039;ll know you&#039;re winning when they start calling you names.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expat,</p>
<p>&#8220;The gun control freaks are actually influenced more by status than by facts. They have to show that they are more civilized . . . &#8221; than anyone who disagrees with them.</p>
<p>This is the premise behind every progressive argument on any topic.  IMO, never try to argue facts with a progressive whether the topic is gun control, climate change, fracking, or anything.  Always attack the underlying self-righteousness and sanctimony.  You&#8217;ll know you&#8217;re winning when they start calling you names.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/09/17/the-navy-yard-killings-and-the-gun-control-advocates/#comment-656708</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 05:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The gun control freaks are actually influenced more by status than by facts. They have to show that they are more civilized than those backwoods road-kill-eating gun-loving bumpkins in flyover country. They have to remain so far away from these types that even learning the difference between an automatic, a semi-automatic, and a shot gun is dangerous to their self image. Trying to come to grips with the problem of severe mental illness is just too much work for their superior minds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gun control freaks are actually influenced more by status than by facts. They have to show that they are more civilized than those backwoods road-kill-eating gun-loving bumpkins in flyover country. They have to remain so far away from these types that even learning the difference between an automatic, a semi-automatic, and a shot gun is dangerous to their self image. Trying to come to grips with the problem of severe mental illness is just too much work for their superior minds.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/09/17/the-navy-yard-killings-and-the-gun-control-advocates/#comment-656694</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 04:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[southpaw,

The brilliance of Biden&#039;s advice knows no bounds.  Fire a double barreled shotgun into the air twice and one of two things happens: 1) the perp now knows you gun is empty and he&#039;s free to attack you; or 2) you scare the perp away, the police arrive and, with no evidence that there ever was a perp to begin with, they arrest you for discharging a weapon in a municipal area (as happened in Washington state).

This is the man one heartbeat away from the presidency, and one might credibly argue that he would be an improvement.  It is to weep!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>southpaw,</p>
<p>The brilliance of Biden&#8217;s advice knows no bounds.  Fire a double barreled shotgun into the air twice and one of two things happens: 1) the perp now knows you gun is empty and he&#8217;s free to attack you; or 2) you scare the perp away, the police arrive and, with no evidence that there ever was a perp to begin with, they arrest you for discharging a weapon in a municipal area (as happened in Washington state).</p>
<p>This is the man one heartbeat away from the presidency, and one might credibly argue that he would be an improvement.  It is to weep!</p>
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		By: southpaw		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/09/17/the-navy-yard-killings-and-the-gun-control-advocates/#comment-656648</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[southpaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roc scssrs- yes it is Joe Bidens choice weapon.  I own an 870, but just like the rest of my firearms, I removed the &quot;auto rampage mechanism&quot; so that it cannot drive itself to populated office buildings or schools and discharge itself into large populations.
 FYI- sheriff Joe Biden stated that the best home defense was to &quot;fire a double barrel shotgun into the air outside your door&quot;. That is a felony in any state, but one would not expect a law student who graduated last in his class, much less a long time US Senator and VP of the USA to know this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roc scssrs- yes it is Joe Bidens choice weapon.  I own an 870, but just like the rest of my firearms, I removed the &#8220;auto rampage mechanism&#8221; so that it cannot drive itself to populated office buildings or schools and discharge itself into large populations.<br />
 FYI- sheriff Joe Biden stated that the best home defense was to &#8220;fire a double barrel shotgun into the air outside your door&#8221;. That is a felony in any state, but one would not expect a law student who graduated last in his class, much less a long time US Senator and VP of the USA to know this.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/09/17/the-navy-yard-killings-and-the-gun-control-advocates/#comment-656635</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo-neocon,

What absolutely &lt;i&gt;every&lt;/i&gt;one seems to gloss over is a point I&#039;d like to address in the aftermath of the Newton and Navy Yard shootings.

Such &quot;spree&quot; shootings are like the crash of a commercial airliner.  They are spectacular (in the literal sense of the word) and so the media rushes to cover them.  As result, even though we might see such a shooting once a year (or less), they &lt;i&gt;seem&lt;/i&gt; to happen more often than that because of all of the media attention both initially and for days or weeks in the aftermath.  Because of this they are not far from anyone&#039;s consciousness.

On the other hand, incidents in which an armed citizen &lt;i&gt;foils&lt;/i&gt; a crime, be it armed robbery, rape or even murder, are rarely reported, even though they occur with much greater frequency than shooting sprees.  Yes, sometimes these stories make a local news broadcast, but they are almost never picked up by the national media outlets.

So a situation where negative gun stereotypes are hyped by frequency, duration and mass reportage actually becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy to gun-control advocates.  How could you &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; want to ban guns, it seems like some school group is getting shot just about every week?  It is the &quot;seems like&quot; which is the operative phrase; once again, progressives reveal themselves as being indoctrinated into the narrative of false appearances rather than any objective reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo-neocon,</p>
<p>What absolutely <i>every</i>one seems to gloss over is a point I&#8217;d like to address in the aftermath of the Newton and Navy Yard shootings.</p>
<p>Such &#8220;spree&#8221; shootings are like the crash of a commercial airliner.  They are spectacular (in the literal sense of the word) and so the media rushes to cover them.  As result, even though we might see such a shooting once a year (or less), they <i>seem</i> to happen more often than that because of all of the media attention both initially and for days or weeks in the aftermath.  Because of this they are not far from anyone&#8217;s consciousness.</p>
<p>On the other hand, incidents in which an armed citizen <i>foils</i> a crime, be it armed robbery, rape or even murder, are rarely reported, even though they occur with much greater frequency than shooting sprees.  Yes, sometimes these stories make a local news broadcast, but they are almost never picked up by the national media outlets.</p>
<p>So a situation where negative gun stereotypes are hyped by frequency, duration and mass reportage actually becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy to gun-control advocates.  How could you <i>not</i> want to ban guns, it seems like some school group is getting shot just about every week?  It is the &#8220;seems like&#8221; which is the operative phrase; once again, progressives reveal themselves as being indoctrinated into the narrative of false appearances rather than any objective reality.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don Says: 
September 17th, 2013 at 3:53 pm
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;AR-15, not AC-15.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I heard he had an AC-47.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Says:<br />
September 17th, 2013 at 3:53 pm</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>AR-15, not AC-15.</p></blockquote>
<p>I heard he had an AC-47.</p>
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