You know how all the stuff you quote has capital letters for when sentences start, complete sentences (or at least not completely run on sentences or fragmented sentences), and various other things like that?

How about you try Emulating what you are Reading and capitalize your own sentences. That’s a start, isn’t it.

Reading doesn’t require you to do much. Even zombie communists can read. Writing requires that you change yourself, however, depending on the circumstance. So can you change yourself, or do you want to be stuck like this forever?

I haven’t witnessed Art’s English language progression all the way since 2001, but it’s been a few years at least that I have witnessed his progression. I’ve improved since the time I first visited and read Neo Neocon. It’s not impossible. It just takes effort. Effort, something reading doesn’t particularly give a person automatically. It’s a character virtue or vice.

Those that want to change the world, perhaps should think first about changing themselves. Since a flawed human changing the world won’t end in a particularly Good World.

you guys said to make it more accessible..
so i have been using writing tools to analyse posts.

since no one can teach me, its all i have.

That potential advice should be rephrased. You should be able to write English as naturally and as smoothly as the Art of War was written in Chinese, with no reference, no looking up stats, no external tools, just your brain.

True Art, whether martial, linguistic, or painting is done by imagining a result or a concept, automatically selecting a method, and then working to make reality accept the existence of this new entity you have created. It is smooth. It is based on proficiency. It may need rewriting, revision, and it may have flaws, but it should be smooth, natural. As natural as moving your dominant hand over the keyboard and mouse.

If you are at the point where you say nobody can teach you, perhaps you should read books concerning how to write. If you truly believe that just reading something will provide you the wisdom, knowledge, enlightenment of the truth. There are plenty of books and social forums where writers go to, in order to work on their writing shop skills.

http://www.writingexcuses.com/

This is one I’ve personally visited and reviewed. It is good. It has one of the best modern day fantasy writers on the panel.

Also, to answer a couple of your questions—

No, the reader has no duty. You are not teaching a course with assignments, nor am I. The writer has a duty to interest the reader.

And my suggestion would be to summarize and then provide links. That would have the greatest chance of enticing people to read.

And leave out all the insults to people here.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to fight this out with you again and again. We have been over it many times.

But I will add here that the issue is not readability score.

Simply put: you have been told (and not just by me; by many many readers here) that your posts are too long. And it’s not just a random post here and there—it’s post after post after post. People are turned off by it, as many readers here have written time and again.

You are a commenter here. As such, I have been very generous in allowing you space. I have also put up with quite a bit of criticism and even insults from you, because (as I’ve written many times before) I think that you have many interesting things to say and you certainly have read many many sources with which people are unfamiliar. However, when it is a case of overkill on your part, I limit what you say. Further insults on your part to me will not change that, nor will it get me to respond with anger. I understand (or think I understand) that your insults are not really all that personal to me, but born out of your frustration with getting the points across that you feel the need to get across. But to do it at greater length you really need to have your own forum.

usually lies take longer than the truth as they must construct a reality to be believed

but when the realityis a lie, then the truth takes longer as it has to deconstruct a reality to be believed — ARtfldgr

and thats the truth!!! thfffpppppptttt!!!!!!!!!!!

fine..
i will measure the word count to what you cut it down
and i will make sure to use this to insure its dumbed down enough.

Erics post was 450 words, and so i thought i was ok if i was within a hundred or two of that.

his readability score was (higher is better)
Flesch-Kincaid Reading Ease 48.5

Readability Formula / Grade
Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level / 11.7
Gunning-Fog Score / 14.4
Coleman-Liau Index / 12
SMOG Index / 10.6
Automated Readability Index / 11.2
Average Grade Level / 12.0

then i checked your writing neo.

Flesch-Kincaid Reading Ease 53

Readability Formula Grade
Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level 12.4
Gunning-Fog Score 14.3
Coleman-Liau Index 11.5
SMOG Index 10.4
Automated Readability Index 13.5
Average Grade Level 12.4

also at 12..

i put the text of my post in and what do i get?

Readability Formula Score
Flesch-Kincaid Reading Ease 65.4

Readability Formula Grade
Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level 8.1
Gunning-Fog Score 9.9
Coleman-Liau Index 11.3
SMOG Index 7.5
Automated Readability Index 8.3
Average Grade Level 9.0

right.. because i grew up when the public was able to do 8th grade, and if you typed a bit above, you sounded smart but not too smart in business.

maybe if i didnt try to write at the highest readability i can use bigger words and the texts can be shorter.

you guys said to make it more accessible..
so i have been using writing tools to analyse posts.

since no one can teach me, its all i have.

so out of the three, i wrote the most accesibly

i find it difficult..
because most do not know the definitions, have not read common texts, and so i cant make a side reference, and they know.

i am trying to find a commonality..
but when it isnt there, what then?
give up?

please give me a good answer neo!!!!!!!
OR do we have to conform to idiocracy?

i tried putting up the links and stuff to books
if people read them, i could reference them

i tried to reference past articles
except people cant remember articles from a month ago, let alone 100 years.

the READER also has a duty… no?
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So part of the reason, Art, why your text is long is because you seem to think reading it is enough, thus your writing skills suffer as a result. Reading is not writing. Thus I can explain your position and my position in less than, say, 5 or 10 paragraphs.

This is the result of proficiency, at least. The ability to do two things at the same time.

Back in the past, a few years ago, people here complained about your length but praised your content. I objected to their complaints because nobody here can make you or motivate you to improve your own writing, other than yourself and maybe whomever pays your living costs. Neo Neocon pays for the server bandwidth you are using, so her authority exists for that reason, but she still can’t make you participate.

So in the years or even decades you’ve been quoting the stuff you’ve read and trying to get other people to read it and understand, have you ever had much success? Have people read it and understood? Have you been able to write what you have read, in your own words, or write what other people’s position was in your own words?

No matter whether I agree with you or not, it’s quite clear that over the Years, you have not improved At All. That’s not my concern, it’s up to you. I’m just describing it from my pov.

If people like what an author writes, but finds it too long, they have no authority to determine how the author writes it. Only the author does. But that does not mean the author is right or wrong. As I mentioned, Neo’s paying for the bandwidth with her work, which is special.

So here’s one final quiz. If reading what the ancients wrote makes you as enlightened or wise as them… why can’t you distill your own thoughts into a similar sized content as what the ancients wrote?

“Little things please little minds, and Small things please small minds.”

Prov. People who are not intelligent are pleased by trivial things.

Small mind, or deluded mind, is the buzzing, unpredictable, frequently out-of-control ordinary mind.

This is our finite mind, our limited conceptual mind; our ordinary, rational, discursive, thinking mind. The deluded mind has so many impulses and needs; it wants so many things. It’s frequently confused; it’s subject to mood swings; it’s restless. It gets angry; it gets depressed; it becomes hyper.

Some ancient traditional texts refer to this small mind as “monkey mind,” where it is pictured as an untamed mustang or an adorable but chaotic little monkey jumping from tree to tree, looking for satisfaction in all the wrong places. – Lama Surya Das

NATURE
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v461/n7260/full/461040a.html

Like minds can be small minds

However, not all collective false beliefs are the product of self-segregation. ‘Belief contagion’ can lead large numbers of people to accept outlandish notions for which there are no credible evidence. For example, in the mid-twentieth century, psychoanalyst Bruno Bettelheim asserted, on the basis of anecdotal evidence, that autism was caused by “refrigerator mothers” – women who treated their children coldly. Widely endorsed at the time but now regarded as erroneous, this runaway belief heralded years of victimization of the mothers of children with autism and misdirected therapeutic efforts.

A more recent example of belief contagion from the late-twentieth century is the preoccupation with ‘recovered memories’, which are susceptible to suggestion and hence can be easily spread. There have been many cases of teachers, for example, being prosecuted for alleged sexual abuse on the basis of community accusations, backed up with rehearsed child testimony and irregular court proceedings that were shaped by false collective beliefs.

Prejudice is another potent generator of false beliefs. Anti-black sentiments were fuelled in the southern United States after the civil war by self-serving politicians and tabloid newspapers. Under Adolf Hitler, Nazi politicians spread anti-Semitic stories for political reasons, but prejudice rendered these stories plausible.

Emmerson
Self-Reliance is an essay written by American transcendentalist philosopher and essayist Ralph Waldo Emerson.

It is the source of one of Emerson’s most famous quotations: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds”

hard to do when your ideas get cut…
even when you spend weeks not putting any up

“To believe your own thought, to believe that what is true for you in your private heart is true for all men, – that is genius.”

When a man forms a pattern within his life, Emerson argues that he violates his nature.

Throughout this essay, Emerson argues against conformity with the world. He gives an archetype for his own transcendental beliefs, but also argues for his slogan “trust thyself”. To follow Emerson’s self-reliant credo fully, one must learn to hear and obey what is most true within their heart, and both think and act independent of popular opinion and social pressure.

to do anything else is to cheat my fellow man here
why do you cheat him of knowlege?
cut down to a consistency where only small ideas can dominate. where lies live as they cant be unproven

Do what you feel in your heart to be right – for you’ll be criticized anyway. You’ll be “damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.” Eleanor Roosevelt

should i put a cut here?

Somalia
Iraq
Afghanistan
Libya
Egypt
Iran ( yes I know they’re Persians not Arabs; still…)
Saudi Arabia
etc/etc.

All of them, including Saudi Arabia.