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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-643435</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Failure? The Left intended to do this all along. What kind of a failure is that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Failure? The Left intended to do this all along. What kind of a failure is that.</p>
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		By: Hangtown Bob		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-643409</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hangtown Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;the “knave vs. fool” question &quot;

Talk about a FALSE CHOICE!

It&#039;s obviously BOTH!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the “knave vs. fool” question &#8221;</p>
<p>Talk about a FALSE CHOICE!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obviously BOTH!</p>
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		By: Bernard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-642998</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You might be interested in this article by Thanassis Cambanis in last Sunday&#039;s Boston Globe: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/08/17/the-secret-history-democratic-thought-middle-east/dgy8n0Ode8Xk8AVoZLziXK/story.html?s_campaign=email_BG_TodaysHeadline&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The secret history of democratic thought in the Middle East&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be interested in this article by Thanassis Cambanis in last Sunday&#8217;s Boston Globe: <a href="http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/08/17/the-secret-history-democratic-thought-middle-east/dgy8n0Ode8Xk8AVoZLziXK/story.html?s_campaign=email_BG_TodaysHeadline" title="" rel="nofollow">The secret history of democratic thought in the Middle East</a></p>
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		By: G Joubert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-642960</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fool and knave are not mutually exclusive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fool and knave are not mutually exclusive.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-642849</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 02:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry is a world class Gonnabee.

aka Reactive Dependent.

He fits that profile to a T.

Normally, when given a true executive position, a Gonnabee destroys the institution.

For corporations that would mean bankruptcy.

For a nation...

The emotional baggage that he travels with demands an extra jumbo jet.

It&#039;s a pretty good bet that he&#039;s behind the revelations about the IRS. That scandal was launched to distract from Benghazigate.

Go back and check out the timing. The IRS matter had been hanging like a Sword of Damocles for months... then pow, it gets launched by a self query.

It&#039;s the kind of logic that Moe and Shemp could reckon: get rid of a headache by hammering the big toe.

=======

It&#039;s obvious that the MB and the Iranians have hooked-up.

But how? The MB and AQ are not in love. 

The only introducing parties that I know of would be Valerie Girl and Huma Weiner. Both are, de facto, in the diplomatic corps of the opposition jihadi elements.

I suspect that Barry and his crew are so up past their eyeballs in intrigues that it would astound. 

Unfortunately, the Poltroon-in-Chief can&#039;t plot straight. He&#039;s got the enemy -- and their camels -- inside his own tent.

He&#039;s going to need more canvas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry is a world class Gonnabee.</p>
<p>aka Reactive Dependent.</p>
<p>He fits that profile to a T.</p>
<p>Normally, when given a true executive position, a Gonnabee destroys the institution.</p>
<p>For corporations that would mean bankruptcy.</p>
<p>For a nation&#8230;</p>
<p>The emotional baggage that he travels with demands an extra jumbo jet.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pretty good bet that he&#8217;s behind the revelations about the IRS. That scandal was launched to distract from Benghazigate.</p>
<p>Go back and check out the timing. The IRS matter had been hanging like a Sword of Damocles for months&#8230; then pow, it gets launched by a self query.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the kind of logic that Moe and Shemp could reckon: get rid of a headache by hammering the big toe.</p>
<p>=======</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious that the MB and the Iranians have hooked-up.</p>
<p>But how? The MB and AQ are not in love. </p>
<p>The only introducing parties that I know of would be Valerie Girl and Huma Weiner. Both are, de facto, in the diplomatic corps of the opposition jihadi elements.</p>
<p>I suspect that Barry and his crew are so up past their eyeballs in intrigues that it would astound. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the Poltroon-in-Chief can&#8217;t plot straight. He&#8217;s got the enemy &#8212; and their camels &#8212; inside his own tent.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s going to need more canvas.</p>
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		By: Promethea		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-642814</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[He also had very competently evil advisors, including David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel, George Soros, and Valerie Jarrett.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He also had very competently evil advisors, including David Axelrod, Rahm Emanuel, George Soros, and Valerie Jarrett.</p>
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		By: reliapundit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-642806</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[obama can&#039;t be a fool.

here&#039;s proof:

the results are too consistent to be the result of incompetence, naivete, mismanagement, or bad luck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obama can&#8217;t be a fool.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s proof:</p>
<p>the results are too consistent to be the result of incompetence, naivete, mismanagement, or bad luck.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-642798</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is no &quot;best&quot; interpretation for Obama. Why give him an excuse?

He just sided with the same people who sided with Adolph Hitler and the German Nazis. Fact.

Need we ever say more than that? That is not enough? 

He is One with every malicious tyrant there ever was. End of story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no &#8220;best&#8221; interpretation for Obama. Why give him an excuse?</p>
<p>He just sided with the same people who sided with Adolph Hitler and the German Nazis. Fact.</p>
<p>Need we ever say more than that? That is not enough? </p>
<p>He is One with every malicious tyrant there ever was. End of story.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-642796</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2013 00:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[southpaw,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I simply don’t see the level of planning behind this that you do. I see an idealist at an arrested stage of development&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

The level of mendacity at the IRS and NSA, which at each level of exposure becomes ever more damning is not indicative of planning? Obama is no idealist, he&#039;s a pragmatic revolutionary. Nor is an arrested stage of development, a massive ego and an ability to delegate to his coterie of shared ideologues mutually exclusive. 

I agree, Obama is not clever but he &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; politically cunning. 

The 2010 elections did indeed blow up in his face. Overconfidence is ever the weakness of success. He&#039;s clearly working on correcting that mistake. So far polls indicate that LIV&#039;s are still on board and democrat&#039;s chances to regain control of Congress may yet bear fruit. I&#039;ll bet that if democrats do regain control of Congress, Obama will not let the opportunity pass him by... 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;My argument is that looking like and idiot and a naé¯ve fool is not consistent with Obama’s character.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

No, its certainly not but what indication is there that Obama &lt;i&gt;believes&lt;/i&gt; that he has been made to look like an idiot and a naé¯ve fool? He couldn&#039;t be a &#039;progressive&#039; if mere reality were an impediment. He automatically dismisses anything those on the right might say. As for what little  criticism there is on the left, that&#039;s easily ascribed to impatience and unfamiliarity with the conditions with which he must deal. By definition, narcissistic egotists never accept personal responsibility, so why would he accept responsibility for his failures? 

Why would he change strategies? He&#039;s been far more successful than Republicans. Obamacare. Fiscal spending without limit. Successful demonizing of his political opponents. Extra and even illegal unconstitutional actions. Comprehensive amnesty for 11-33 million &#039;undocumented democrats&#039; ensuring future one-party rule in America. If I were on the left, I&#039;d be compelled to pronounce him the most successful leftist President, ever... As for foreign policy, he simply doesn&#039;t care. At best, it&#039;s a distraction.

Regardless  of our differences however, I &lt;i&gt;pray&lt;/i&gt; you are right and I in the wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>southpaw,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I simply don’t see the level of planning behind this that you do. I see an idealist at an arrested stage of development&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>The level of mendacity at the IRS and NSA, which at each level of exposure becomes ever more damning is not indicative of planning? Obama is no idealist, he&#8217;s a pragmatic revolutionary. Nor is an arrested stage of development, a massive ego and an ability to delegate to his coterie of shared ideologues mutually exclusive. </p>
<p>I agree, Obama is not clever but he <i>is</i> politically cunning. </p>
<p>The 2010 elections did indeed blow up in his face. Overconfidence is ever the weakness of success. He&#8217;s clearly working on correcting that mistake. So far polls indicate that LIV&#8217;s are still on board and democrat&#8217;s chances to regain control of Congress may yet bear fruit. I&#8217;ll bet that if democrats do regain control of Congress, Obama will not let the opportunity pass him by&#8230; </p>
<p><i>&#8220;My argument is that looking like and idiot and a naé¯ve fool is not consistent with Obama’s character.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>No, its certainly not but what indication is there that Obama <i>believes</i> that he has been made to look like an idiot and a naé¯ve fool? He couldn&#8217;t be a &#8216;progressive&#8217; if mere reality were an impediment. He automatically dismisses anything those on the right might say. As for what little  criticism there is on the left, that&#8217;s easily ascribed to impatience and unfamiliarity with the conditions with which he must deal. By definition, narcissistic egotists never accept personal responsibility, so why would he accept responsibility for his failures? </p>
<p>Why would he change strategies? He&#8217;s been far more successful than Republicans. Obamacare. Fiscal spending without limit. Successful demonizing of his political opponents. Extra and even illegal unconstitutional actions. Comprehensive amnesty for 11-33 million &#8216;undocumented democrats&#8217; ensuring future one-party rule in America. If I were on the left, I&#8217;d be compelled to pronounce him the most successful leftist President, ever&#8230; As for foreign policy, he simply doesn&#8217;t care. At best, it&#8217;s a distraction.</p>
<p>Regardless  of our differences however, I <i>pray</i> you are right and I in the wrong.</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/08/20/the-egyptian-debacle/#comment-642729</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 23:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, and the United States government simply has to learn to accept the fact that there are great swaths of the world that do not understand, and in many cases will never understand, what democracy really means.  As a minimum, we need to let each country find its way at its own pace.  Our energy needs to be concentrated on fostering  respect for basic human rights, regardless of the governmental form; and, most importantly, maintaining a beneficial relationship with those who have the ability to affect our national interests.

End of sermon.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the United States government simply has to learn to accept the fact that there are great swaths of the world that do not understand, and in many cases will never understand, what democracy really means.  As a minimum, we need to let each country find its way at its own pace.  Our energy needs to be concentrated on fostering  respect for basic human rights, regardless of the governmental form; and, most importantly, maintaining a beneficial relationship with those who have the ability to affect our national interests.</p>
<p>End of sermon.</p>
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