Comments on: I suspect…

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:02:34 +0000

“Cause pain before you injure. Injure before you maim. Maim before you kill. And if you must kill, make it a clean kill. Squeeze every drop of life from the opponent. Because life is so precious, it cannot be wasted, even in death.”

“Let him cut your skin, and you cut his flesh. Let him cut your flesh, and you cut his bones. Let him cut your bones, and you cut off his life.”

Those that refuse to adhere to such precepts, often end up like the Christians of Iraq and the Jews of Judea. Somebody’s always going to find an excuse to get em. Absent any yojimbo around.

But remember what MO told us? It was closer to the truth than anything out of Obama’s lips at least.

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/10312/barack-will-never-allow-you-go-back-your-lives-usual

Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed.

Have we shed our cynicism yet? Have we put down our divisions yet? Have we been made to move outside our comfort zones yet?

If not… then just wait. Because they’re working on it. The Ole Grand Plan as usual for human fate.

By: sergey

sergey — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:10:36 +0000

I hate to admit it, but to eradicate islamofascism in Egypt and elsewhere they would need to suffer a military defeat of the scale Nazi did. Hundred thousand must be killed and several millions imprisoned to achieve this.

By: model_1066

model_1066 — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:50:43 +0000

It’s impossible to not be cynical about any situation involving Egyptians, Obama and the media.

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:57:36 +0000

Don Carlos:

It depends on the conditions under which the violence occurs.

In the case of the recent violence in Egypt, there is probably some sort of hierarchy of innocence, in which the various possibilities for innocent casualties go as follows (not necessarily in any special order here):

—passers-by (probably not many of those at all)
—children purposely placed there by parents or other adults in order to draw great outrage and sympathy if hit
—people peacefully demonstrating for Morsi (the demonstrations and sit-ins had been going on for quite some time without much if any violence until recently)
—cameramen/woman and newspeople (this man, for example)

By: Don Carlos

Don Carlos — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:27:16 +0000

Neo writes:
“Of course, this does not mean there are no casualties in Egypt now, nor does it mean that many innocent people aren’t being killed by the police. It does mean we need to know how many, who they are, and who is doing the instigating, and that we may never know because deception is endemic.”

I do not know what “innocent” means in an area where “deception is endemic.” I am concerned that putative innocence is related to the so-called disproportionate use of force. Are innocents merely claimed non-provocateurs when deception (especially as to claimed innocence) is endemic? I am inclined to doubt that innocents are somehow just swpt up into the middle of a rioting mob or other violent endeavor.

Innocence and guilt are concepts better limited to the judicial process than to human activity writ large. We are not on trial at all moments of our lives, not in a court at least.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 19:36:31 +0000

Propaganda can make perfectly good insurgents look like the dead and slaughtered. But they can’t make dead people look like perfectly good insurgents as well.

Thus the solution against propaganda is obvious. There is only one realm that propaganda can do little to zero in.

By: Richard Aubrey

Richard Aubrey — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:35:36 +0000

There were a number of photo-shopped items during the last IDF dustup with the hizzies.
Faked up an ambulance destroyed by IAF, without any holes in it, and so forth.
The ICRC took the photo off its main page “to maintain our integrity” or some such. Meaning to deny people the opportunity to look closely at it.
Some people believe this stuff and others pretend to and preach it in order to fool the gullible.

By: Mr. Frank

Mr. Frank — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 16:25:24 +0000

Meanwhile, Putin and the Russians are siding with the Egyptian military while our bystander president is playing golf.

By: Lizzy

Lizzy — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 15:50:11 +0000

Lacune – My parents spent several months in Jerusalem in 2000 and they were shocked at the blatant lies on CNN International. They’d visit some part of the city and then later in the day see a “news” report that there was a violent incident at that same place. They and their fellow classmates each selected a person from the canned/recycled footage of these so-called incidents and would locate them with each new report. They said almost every report of these incidents was false. Again, this was not Al Jazeera, it was CNN.

By: Lizzy

Lizzy — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 15:38:11 +0000

And how many American journalists will be lending their credibility to this sort of propaganda with Al Jazeera America? We can thank Al Gore for inviting them in through the front door.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Jazeera_America)