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		By: Arif		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 01:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Coming to this thread awfully late, but Wounds to Bind, an upcoming memoir by We Five&#039;s Jerry Burgan just announced by Rowman &#038; Littlefield, deals in depth with Beverly&#039;s breakthrough vocal style, how she warped the space-time-sex continuum in the early days of folk rock, and her 40-year reclusion.  https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780810888616]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming to this thread awfully late, but Wounds to Bind, an upcoming memoir by We Five&#8217;s Jerry Burgan just announced by Rowman &amp; Littlefield, deals in depth with Beverly&#8217;s breakthrough vocal style, how she warped the space-time-sex continuum in the early days of folk rock, and her 40-year reclusion.  <a href="https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780810888616" rel="nofollow ugc">https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780810888616</a></p>
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		By: Gary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 05:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[sharpie wrote:

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Just listened to Janis Ian.

Fucking great.

Thank you.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Glad you liked it, sharpie. I don&#039;t listen to her much anymore but IMHO, her &quot;Between the Lines&quot; album is a classic. I believe she wrote all the music and lyrics, too. Certainly most of it.
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rickl wrote:

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I&#039;m not familiar with most of her material, but her monster megahit &quot;At Seventeen&quot; came out when I was 17.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&quot;At Seventeen&quot; is also on &quot;Between the Lines.&quot; Not a bad track on the album. It&#039;s sad and a bit melodramatic, but worth checking into if you&#039;re in the mood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sharpie wrote:</p>
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Just listened to Janis Ian.</p>
<p>Fucking great.</p>
<p>Thank you.
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<p>Glad you liked it, sharpie. I don&#8217;t listen to her much anymore but IMHO, her &#8220;Between the Lines&#8221; album is a classic. I believe she wrote all the music and lyrics, too. Certainly most of it.<br />
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<p>rickl wrote:</p>
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I&#8217;m not familiar with most of her material, but her monster megahit &#8220;At Seventeen&#8221; came out when I was 17.
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<p>&#8220;At Seventeen&#8221; is also on &#8220;Between the Lines.&#8221; Not a bad track on the album. It&#8217;s sad and a bit melodramatic, but worth checking into if you&#8217;re in the mood.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[sharpie Says: 
August 9th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Just listened to Janis Ian.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not familiar with most of her material, but her monster megahit &quot;At Seventeen&quot; came out when I was 17.

&#039;Nuff said.

***

The only time I saw her live, about 20 years later, I had to leave in the middle of her set in order to catch a ride home.  I felt terrible about it.  Not just because I couldn&#039;t hear her whole set, but because I didn&#039;t want her to think I was walking out on her.  When I stood up to go, I made an exaggerated show of tapping my wrist in order to indicate that it was time for me to leave and I had no choice.  I don&#039;t know whether she got it or not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sharpie Says:<br />
August 9th, 2013 at 5:29 pm</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>Just listened to Janis Ian.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with most of her material, but her monster megahit &#8220;At Seventeen&#8221; came out when I was 17.</p>
<p>&#8216;Nuff said.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>The only time I saw her live, about 20 years later, I had to leave in the middle of her set in order to catch a ride home.  I felt terrible about it.  Not just because I couldn&#8217;t hear her whole set, but because I didn&#8217;t want her to think I was walking out on her.  When I stood up to go, I made an exaggerated show of tapping my wrist in order to indicate that it was time for me to leave and I had no choice.  I don&#8217;t know whether she got it or not.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 01:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Domestic support for humans was never a positive point for the Leftist infiltrated counter culture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Domestic support for humans was never a positive point for the Leftist infiltrated counter culture.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is perhaps too late in the thread, but this is for Sharpie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ao7-X-xqoA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is perhaps too late in the thread, but this is for Sharpie:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ao7-X-xqoA" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ao7-X-xqoA</a></p>
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		By: sharpie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just listened to Janis Ian. 

Fucking great. 

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just listened to Janis Ian. </p>
<p>Fucking great. </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: Gary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;&lt;i&gt;Why wasn&#039;t Beverly Bivens a star, a household word? She was certainly pretty enough. But she left the group around the time she get married at the ripe old age of nineteen, and retired not long after.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Her voice was excellent and I agree that she was attractive enough. The rest of the excerpt partially answers your question. 

I listened to a few &quot;We Five&quot; tunes on YouTube. From what I heard, they were doing folk/folk-rock type stuff, which at the time was being pushed aside by the Beatles, the &quot;British Invasion&quot; and rock-n-roll generally. I think that might be the rest of the answer why she never became a big star: she was good, but was working in a waning genre.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>Why wasn&#8217;t Beverly Bivens a star, a household word? She was certainly pretty enough. But she left the group around the time she get married at the ripe old age of nineteen, and retired not long after.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Her voice was excellent and I agree that she was attractive enough. The rest of the excerpt partially answers your question. </p>
<p>I listened to a few &#8220;We Five&#8221; tunes on YouTube. From what I heard, they were doing folk/folk-rock type stuff, which at the time was being pushed aside by the Beatles, the &#8220;British Invasion&#8221; and rock-n-roll generally. I think that might be the rest of the answer why she never became a big star: she was good, but was working in a waning genre.</p>
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		By: Gary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 06:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Enjoy these diversions from the news. I clearly remember the hit single &quot;You Were On My Mind,&quot; but never heard of Bivens before and didn&#039;t even recall the name of the group.

Bivens had a great voice, strong and emotional in &quot;Love Me Not Tomorrow,&quot; a fine, heart-rending soundtrack for tragic young love and a tear-streaked guitar. We may joke about such things now, but it was deadly serious back then.

Here&#039;s one that played a similar role for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP31w8D-RgQ

Actually, it was the entire melancholy-melodramatic album with this title track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSmSf153-8A]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoy these diversions from the news. I clearly remember the hit single &#8220;You Were On My Mind,&#8221; but never heard of Bivens before and didn&#8217;t even recall the name of the group.</p>
<p>Bivens had a great voice, strong and emotional in &#8220;Love Me Not Tomorrow,&#8221; a fine, heart-rending soundtrack for tragic young love and a tear-streaked guitar. We may joke about such things now, but it was deadly serious back then.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one that played a similar role for me:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP31w8D-RgQ" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MP31w8D-RgQ</a></p>
<p>Actually, it was the entire melancholy-melodramatic album with this title track:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSmSf153-8A" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSmSf153-8A</a></p>
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		By: sharpie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 05:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Next Twain, then Blake, then Poe, then Swift (&quot;Now Betty from her master&#039;s bed had flown,
And softly stole to discompose her own&quot;), certainly not Angelou (cripes) or other politcallly declared poets, I

DECRY

the crap this shit the 
excrement

Well, you get the idea.

Modern poetry lost metre, rhyme, value and performance and was replaced by political commentary, except the greatest poet in the recent history of mankind, Robert Frost, could not be confined to socialist threatenings. His poetry is undefined because poetry resists definition. 

How could it be otherwise. And it is beautiful and right that it it otherwise. Language resists socialism. It resists political capture. 

It must and can be the vehicle of freedom.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next Twain, then Blake, then Poe, then Swift (&#8220;Now Betty from her master&#8217;s bed had flown,<br />
And softly stole to discompose her own&#8221;), certainly not Angelou (cripes) or other politcallly declared poets, I</p>
<p>DECRY</p>
<p>the crap this shit the<br />
excrement</p>
<p>Well, you get the idea.</p>
<p>Modern poetry lost metre, rhyme, value and performance and was replaced by political commentary, except the greatest poet in the recent history of mankind, Robert Frost, could not be confined to socialist threatenings. His poetry is undefined because poetry resists definition. </p>
<p>How could it be otherwise. And it is beautiful and right that it it otherwise. Language resists socialism. It resists political capture. </p>
<p>It must and can be the vehicle of freedom.</p>
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		By: sharpie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course I was referring to Frost.]]></description>
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