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		By: David Bennett		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627309</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Bennett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2013 03:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s do this.
The one thing almost every state could use is a way to create city states.  Divorce the metro areas from the rest of the state and there would be radically different tax policies, education policies........pretty much everything policies.  Probably both would be better off.  This is pretty much what the Colorado thing is about and Washington, Oregon, Arizona are the most obvious cause they have metro areas that overwhelm the rest of their states.  Probably once it got started multi metro states would start to want to do the same thing.  There would even be some new ones that included parts of more than one existing state.  Kansas City, Portland, Charlotte.  The original idea of states made lots of sense at the time but now the organizational needs are completely different.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s do this.<br />
The one thing almost every state could use is a way to create city states.  Divorce the metro areas from the rest of the state and there would be radically different tax policies, education policies&#8230;&#8230;..pretty much everything policies.  Probably both would be better off.  This is pretty much what the Colorado thing is about and Washington, Oregon, Arizona are the most obvious cause they have metro areas that overwhelm the rest of their states.  Probably once it got started multi metro states would start to want to do the same thing.  There would even be some new ones that included parts of more than one existing state.  Kansas City, Portland, Charlotte.  The original idea of states made lots of sense at the time but now the organizational needs are completely different.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627269</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2013 01:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;The southern states had a right to secede, but were crushed.&lt;/b&gt;

The Southern States were ruled by a bunch of Democrats, in league with their Northern Dems, that used a bunch of white patriots and black slaves as tools in their war for power, glory, and wealth. Same as usual.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The southern states had a right to secede, but were crushed.</b></p>
<p>The Southern States were ruled by a bunch of Democrats, in league with their Northern Dems, that used a bunch of white patriots and black slaves as tools in their war for power, glory, and wealth. Same as usual.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627268</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2013 01:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;ll take at least 100 WACos for anyone to even begin waking up to do anything in the US.

I have yet to see enough body bags to constitute 25%. Although perhaps 10% (riots, shootings, bombings, rapes, crimes) may apply as being body bags.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll take at least 100 WACos for anyone to even begin waking up to do anything in the US.</p>
<p>I have yet to see enough body bags to constitute 25%. Although perhaps 10% (riots, shootings, bombings, rapes, crimes) may apply as being body bags.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627243</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought people would wake up in 2012, but that was wishful thinking.  2014 is the last chance.  Otherwise, the only peaceful solution is an amiable divorce, but the left and their pet rinos would never allow that to happen.  I don&#039;t know what the future holds, but I fear it may involve collapse and starting over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought people would wake up in 2012, but that was wishful thinking.  2014 is the last chance.  Otherwise, the only peaceful solution is an amiable divorce, but the left and their pet rinos would never allow that to happen.  I don&#8217;t know what the future holds, but I fear it may involve collapse and starting over.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627242</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This kind of restructuring of the Republic would really mess up their Demoncracy&#039;s totalitarian utopia.

It might not destroy the back of the Leftist alliance&#039;s power, but it would hurt. A lot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of restructuring of the Republic would really mess up their Demoncracy&#8217;s totalitarian utopia.</p>
<p>It might not destroy the back of the Leftist alliance&#8217;s power, but it would hurt. A lot.</p>
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		By: Mr. Frank		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627194</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Frank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Might makes right. The southern states had a right to secede, but were crushed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might makes right. The southern states had a right to secede, but were crushed.</p>
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		By: DirtyJobsGuy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627180</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The split in most states was historically urban vs rural with regard to public funds etc.   But in Colorado and in other states like Washington, Oregon etc.  it is now suburban vs rural.   The new residents are drawn to places like Denver for the outdoor recreation and tend to see the rural areas as a playground not a place where people live and earn a living.  The newbies are bikers and skiers not hunters or snowmobilers.    Typical of the left, they have little tolerance for other views.   This is happening in the Adirondacks in New York where a small civil war in ongoing between people that live in the area vs Manhattan greens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The split in most states was historically urban vs rural with regard to public funds etc.   But in Colorado and in other states like Washington, Oregon etc.  it is now suburban vs rural.   The new residents are drawn to places like Denver for the outdoor recreation and tend to see the rural areas as a playground not a place where people live and earn a living.  The newbies are bikers and skiers not hunters or snowmobilers.    Typical of the left, they have little tolerance for other views.   This is happening in the Adirondacks in New York where a small civil war in ongoing between people that live in the area vs Manhattan greens.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627174</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Baltimoron:

No need to apologize.  I hadn&#039;t mentioned Vermont, so you had no way of knowing I&#039;d researched it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baltimoron:</p>
<p>No need to apologize.  I hadn&#8217;t mentioned Vermont, so you had no way of knowing I&#8217;d researched it.</p>
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		By: Baltimoron		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627166</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My apologies]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies</p>
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		By: Kyndyll		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/12/the-war-between-the-state/#comment-627161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyndyll]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Zimmerman case is a perfect example of the liberal left being impossible to safely live with, making some the rest of us look around for the exit door. There but for the grace of god goes any of us who ever challenged a shadowy creep outside of our home on a dark night. Whether, in this case, the teen was innocently walking home or looking for a place to break into is not the point.  The point is that it wasn&#039;t long ago that you could say, &quot;Hey, what are you up to?&quot; with expectation that you would 1) not be attacked and 2) be able to defend yourself if you were attacked. When I was a teenage miscreant, if you were caught in the act, you lied and slithered off - you didn&#039;t administer a beatdown. Oh but wait - I don&#039;t happen to be a member of any victim groups, so maybe you did and I just didn&#039;t have membership rights to do so.

Ultimately, that&#039;s the problem with the liberal left. Victimhood is such a foundation of their ideology that there have to be victims, who get special treatment, which mean that there have to be non-victims, who by definition represent the Forces of Evil against victims and therefore get special penalties. There is nothing about the liberal left that involves individual empowerment, rising above, or improving one&#039;s lot in life, and anything that results in true equality is the opposite of the world they want. They don&#039;t want the rule of law - they want special favors for their victim groups and kicks in the teeth to the rest of us. We were partway to a world where people were people, not skin color, back when I was a teen in the 1980s, but the liberal left has set back race relations by decades and made everything worse for everyone.

It is becoming obvious that we cannot live together anymore and it being 2013, there are few places to which one can flee. The prospect of carving up the territory we already have is increasingly attractive to those of us on bottom side of the shoe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Zimmerman case is a perfect example of the liberal left being impossible to safely live with, making some the rest of us look around for the exit door. There but for the grace of god goes any of us who ever challenged a shadowy creep outside of our home on a dark night. Whether, in this case, the teen was innocently walking home or looking for a place to break into is not the point.  The point is that it wasn&#8217;t long ago that you could say, &#8220;Hey, what are you up to?&#8221; with expectation that you would 1) not be attacked and 2) be able to defend yourself if you were attacked. When I was a teenage miscreant, if you were caught in the act, you lied and slithered off &#8211; you didn&#8217;t administer a beatdown. Oh but wait &#8211; I don&#8217;t happen to be a member of any victim groups, so maybe you did and I just didn&#8217;t have membership rights to do so.</p>
<p>Ultimately, that&#8217;s the problem with the liberal left. Victimhood is such a foundation of their ideology that there have to be victims, who get special treatment, which mean that there have to be non-victims, who by definition represent the Forces of Evil against victims and therefore get special penalties. There is nothing about the liberal left that involves individual empowerment, rising above, or improving one&#8217;s lot in life, and anything that results in true equality is the opposite of the world they want. They don&#8217;t want the rule of law &#8211; they want special favors for their victim groups and kicks in the teeth to the rest of us. We were partway to a world where people were people, not skin color, back when I was a teen in the 1980s, but the liberal left has set back race relations by decades and made everything worse for everyone.</p>
<p>It is becoming obvious that we cannot live together anymore and it being 2013, there are few places to which one can flee. The prospect of carving up the territory we already have is increasingly attractive to those of us on bottom side of the shoe.</p>
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