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		By: reticent		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/06/i-grow-old-i-grow-old/#comment-625156</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[I also always loved your posts about your mother and other elderly relatives. They always made me smile. My condolences for your loss.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also always loved your posts about your mother and other elderly relatives. They always made me smile. My condolences for your loss.</p>
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		By: mizpants		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/06/i-grow-old-i-grow-old/#comment-625142</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 20:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry I&#039;m so late in the thread, Neo, but wanted to send my condolences as well. I loved your posts about your mother, and was beginning to wonder why there hadn&#039;t been one for so long.
David Yotham: I like your poem, especially the line about elastic in time. At 65, I begin to appreciate that property!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I&#8217;m so late in the thread, Neo, but wanted to send my condolences as well. I loved your posts about your mother, and was beginning to wonder why there hadn&#8217;t been one for so long.<br />
David Yotham: I like your poem, especially the line about elastic in time. At 65, I begin to appreciate that property!</p>
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		By: sharpie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/06/i-grow-old-i-grow-old/#comment-625139</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 20:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I understand and don&#039;t understand why it is hard to go through a loved one&#039;s stuff. On the hand, it makes you realize how much they are gone, the finality of it. On the other hand, to have stuff to go through! That is better than no stuff to go through.

It is better to hurt than not to be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand and don&#8217;t understand why it is hard to go through a loved one&#8217;s stuff. On the hand, it makes you realize how much they are gone, the finality of it. On the other hand, to have stuff to go through! That is better than no stuff to go through.</p>
<p>It is better to hurt than not to be.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 18:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A great many thanks to all who offered condolences.  I appreciate it very much.

At some point I&#039;ll write more about my mother&#039;s death.  But for now I&#039;ll just say going through the stuff is hard. Some of it isn&#039;t my mother&#039;s, but from earlier ancestors, or even from people she knew who are long dead but who gave her their memorabilia.

For example, there&#039;s a large amount of stuff from a family friend who was a British actor (he always had work, but was not especially famous), lots of letters and memorabilia of his, and he died many decades ago.  I think my mother had planned to go through it some time and perhaps write an essay or a book, or donate it somewhere (some of the letters involve reminiscences about some famous stage actors).  Now I will have to figure out what to do with all of that, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great many thanks to all who offered condolences.  I appreciate it very much.</p>
<p>At some point I&#8217;ll write more about my mother&#8217;s death.  But for now I&#8217;ll just say going through the stuff is hard. Some of it isn&#8217;t my mother&#8217;s, but from earlier ancestors, or even from people she knew who are long dead but who gave her their memorabilia.</p>
<p>For example, there&#8217;s a large amount of stuff from a family friend who was a British actor (he always had work, but was not especially famous), lots of letters and memorabilia of his, and he died many decades ago.  I think my mother had planned to go through it some time and perhaps write an essay or a book, or donate it somewhere (some of the letters involve reminiscences about some famous stage actors).  Now I will have to figure out what to do with all of that, too.</p>
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		By: Capn Rusty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,

My sympathies. I lost my mom a couple years ago; I still miss her. I hope there&#039;s a heaven; she deserved it.

Of the several bloggers I read religiously, you write like a wise and knowledgeable friend. You provide us with valuable insight regarding the confusing and historic times through which we are passing. But you leaven that by sharing your life and thoughts and feelings in a dignified manner. Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,</p>
<p>My sympathies. I lost my mom a couple years ago; I still miss her. I hope there&#8217;s a heaven; she deserved it.</p>
<p>Of the several bloggers I read religiously, you write like a wise and knowledgeable friend. You provide us with valuable insight regarding the confusing and historic times through which we are passing. But you leaven that by sharing your life and thoughts and feelings in a dignified manner. Thank you.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/06/i-grow-old-i-grow-old/#comment-625042</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[megapotomus,

You seem to commit the common sin of confusing an objective identification and discussion of a life-milestone with complaining about it. (Hint:  They&#039;re not the same!)

&quot;Pampered git?&quot;  Name calling?  You&#039;re obviously not there yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>megapotomus,</p>
<p>You seem to commit the common sin of confusing an objective identification and discussion of a life-milestone with complaining about it. (Hint:  They&#8217;re not the same!)</p>
<p>&#8220;Pampered git?&#8221;  Name calling?  You&#8217;re obviously not there yet.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[carl in Atlanta,

About 10-12 years ago (if memory serves) there was a book published about exactly that experience titled something like &quot;We&#039;re All Orphans.&quot;  I tried to find it at Amazon but to no avail.

Make no mistake about it, the death of our surviving parent brings a finality to our existence.  It matters not how much one actually relied on that parent while s/he was still alive.  After their passing we all become acutely aware of the fact that, while &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; children still look to us, there is no longer anyone for us to look to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>carl in Atlanta,</p>
<p>About 10-12 years ago (if memory serves) there was a book published about exactly that experience titled something like &#8220;We&#8217;re All Orphans.&#8221;  I tried to find it at Amazon but to no avail.</p>
<p>Make no mistake about it, the death of our surviving parent brings a finality to our existence.  It matters not how much one actually relied on that parent while s/he was still alive.  After their passing we all become acutely aware of the fact that, while <i>our</i> children still look to us, there is no longer anyone for us to look to.</p>
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		By: megapotamus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/07/06/i-grow-old-i-grow-old/#comment-625034</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 12:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Certainly that bleat was far too long and narcissistic though I guess for some brands of blogger that is par. My gut response was, get some REAL problems, pampered git! If anyone REALLY doesn&#039;t like aging there is one clear solution. Until it is THAT bad, just deal with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly that bleat was far too long and narcissistic though I guess for some brands of blogger that is par. My gut response was, get some REAL problems, pampered git! If anyone REALLY doesn&#8217;t like aging there is one clear solution. Until it is THAT bad, just deal with it.</p>
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		By: carl in atlanta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 11:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,  I&#039;m glad you&#039;ve  mentioned the death of your mother because it means we have something else in common besides being conservative and middle aged [&quot;I&#039;m middle-aged, not old!&quot;, he insists, clinging (without much credibility) to the very last vestige of long-gone youth]: My mother died on 7/11/2012, a year ago this coming Tuesday; I&#039;m still going through her things, many of which are still being stored in a bunch of bankers&#039; boxes out in my garage. For me the hardest part has been the recurring realization that if we live long enough we all become orphans.

 Ninety-eight years? Wow, what an accomplishment! And you&#039;ve got those genes. ... 

 Speaking of growing old, does anyone else here observe that Neo&#039;s commenters tend to be &quot;middled-aged&quot;?  I wonder why that is?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,  I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve  mentioned the death of your mother because it means we have something else in common besides being conservative and middle aged [&#8220;I&#8217;m middle-aged, not old!&#8221;, he insists, clinging (without much credibility) to the very last vestige of long-gone youth]: My mother died on 7/11/2012, a year ago this coming Tuesday; I&#8217;m still going through her things, many of which are still being stored in a bunch of bankers&#8217; boxes out in my garage. For me the hardest part has been the recurring realization that if we live long enough we all become orphans.</p>
<p> Ninety-eight years? Wow, what an accomplishment! And you&#8217;ve got those genes. &#8230; </p>
<p> Speaking of growing old, does anyone else here observe that Neo&#8217;s commenters tend to be &#8220;middled-aged&#8221;?  I wonder why that is?</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2013 07:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bless your heart, Neo: I, too, know how it feels (I lost my mom in 2009, though Dad is still hanging in there, thank God).

This is (some of) my favorite poem: &quot;Intimations of Immortality&quot;

Ode: Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood
  
THERE was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,	 
    The earth, and every common sight,	 
            To me did seem	 
    Apparelled in celestial light,	 
The glory and the freshness of a dream.	         5
It is not now as it hath been of yore;–	 
        Turn wheresoe’er I may,	 
            By night or day,	 
The things which I have seen I now can see no more.	 
 	
        The rainbow comes and goes,	  10
        And lovely is the rose;	 
        The moon doth with delight	 
    Look round her when the heavens are bare;	 
        Waters on a starry night	 
        Are beautiful and fair;	  15
    The sunshine is a glorious birth;	 
    But yet I know, where’er I go,	 
That there hath passed away a glory from the earth.	 
 	
. . .
        –But there is a tree, of many, one,	 
A single field which I have looked upon,	 
Both of them speak of something that is gone:	 
          The pansy at my feet	  55
          Doth the same tale repeat:	 
Whither is fled the visionary gleam?	 
Where is it now, the glory and the dream?	 
 	
Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:	 
The Soul that rises with us, our life’s Star,	  60
        Hath had elsewhere its setting,	 
          And cometh from afar:	 
        Not in entire forgetfulness,	 
        And not in utter nakedness,	 
But trailing clouds of glory do we come	  65
        From God, who is our home:	 
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!	 
Shades of the prison-house begin to close	 
        Upon the growing Boy,	 
But he beholds the light, and whence it flows,	  70
        He sees it in his joy;	 
The Youth, who daily farther from the east	 
    Must travel, still is Nature’s priest,	 
      And by the vision splendid	 
      Is on his way attended;	  75
At length the Man perceives it die away,	 
And fade into the light of common day.	 
 	
. . . 
 	
Thou, whose exterior semblance doth belie	 
        Thy soul’s immensity;	 110
Thou best philosopher, who yet dost keep	 
Thy heritage, thou eye among the blind,	 
That, deaf and silent, read’st the eternal deep,	 
Haunted for ever by the eternal mind,–	 
        Mighty prophet! Seer blest!	 115
        On whom those truths do rest,	 
Which we are toiling all our lives to find,	 
In darkness lost, the darkness of the grave;	 
Thou, over whom thy Immortality	 
Broods like the Day, a master o’er a slave,	 120
A presence which is not to be put by;	 
          To whom the grave	 
Is but a lonely bed without the sense or sight	 
        Of day or the warm light,	 
A place of thought where we in waiting lie;	 125
Thou little Child, yet glorious in the might	 
Of heaven-born freedom on thy being’s height,	 
Why with such earnest pains dost thou provoke	 
The years to bring the inevitable yoke,	 
Thus blindly with thy blessedness at strife?	 130
Full soon thy soul shall have her earthly freight,	 
And custom lie upon thee with a weight,	 
Heavy as frost, and deep almost as life!	 
 	
        O joy! that in our embers	 
        Is something that doth live,	 135
        That nature yet remembers	 
        What was so fugitive!	 
The thought of our past years in me doth breed	 
Perpetual benediction: not indeed	 
For that which is most worthy to be blest–	 140
Delight and liberty, the simple creed	 
Of childhood, whether busy or at rest,	 
With new-fledged hope still fluttering in his breast:–	 
        Not for these I raise	 
        The song of thanks and praise;	 145
    But for those obstinate questionings	 
    Of sense and outward things,	 
    Fallings from us, vanishings;	 
    Blank misgivings of a Creature	 
Moving about in worlds not realized,	 150
High instincts before which our mortal Nature	 
Did tremble like a guilty thing surprised:	 
        But for those first affections,	 
        Those shadowy recollections,	 
      Which, be they what they may,	 155
Are yet the fountain-light of all our day,	 
Are yet a master-light of all our seeing;	 
  Uphold us, cherish, and have power to make	 
Our noisy years seem moments in the being	 
Of the eternal Silence: truths that wake,	 160
            To perish never:	 
Which neither listlessness, nor mad endeavour,	 
            Nor Man nor Boy,	 
Nor all that is at enmity with joy,	 
Can utterly abolish or destroy!	 165

Hence in a season of calm weather	 
        Though inland far we be,	 
Our souls have sight of that immortal sea	 
        Which brought us hither,	 
    Can in a moment travel thither,	 170
And see the children sport upon the shore,	 
And hear the mighty waters rolling evermore.	 
 	
. . . 
What though the radiance which was once so bright	 180
Be now for ever taken from my sight,	 
    Though nothing can bring back the hour	 
Of splendour in the grass, of glory in the flower;	 
      We will grieve not, rather find	 
      Strength in what remains behind;	 185
      In the primal sympathy	 
      Which having been must ever be;	 
      In the soothing thoughts that spring	 
      Out of human suffering;	 
      In the faith that looks through death,	 190
In years that bring the philosophic mind.	 
 	
. . .
	 
Another race hath been, and other palms are won.	 
Thanks to the human heart by which we live,	 205
Thanks to its tenderness, its joys, and fears,	 
To me, the meanest flower that blows can give	 
Thoughts that do often lie too deep for tears.	

–William Wordsworth]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bless your heart, Neo: I, too, know how it feels (I lost my mom in 2009, though Dad is still hanging in there, thank God).</p>
<p>This is (some of) my favorite poem: &#8220;Intimations of Immortality&#8221;</p>
<p>Ode: Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood</p>
<p>THERE was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,<br />
    The earth, and every common sight,<br />
            To me did seem<br />
    Apparelled in celestial light,<br />
The glory and the freshness of a dream.	         5<br />
It is not now as it hath been of yore;–<br />
        Turn wheresoe’er I may,<br />
            By night or day,<br />
The things which I have seen I now can see no more.	 </p>
<p>        The rainbow comes and goes,	  10<br />
        And lovely is the rose;<br />
        The moon doth with delight<br />
    Look round her when the heavens are bare;<br />
        Waters on a starry night<br />
        Are beautiful and fair;	  15<br />
    The sunshine is a glorious birth;<br />
    But yet I know, where’er I go,<br />
That there hath passed away a glory from the earth.	 </p>
<p>. . .<br />
        –But there is a tree, of many, one,<br />
A single field which I have looked upon,<br />
Both of them speak of something that is gone:<br />
          The pansy at my feet	  55<br />
          Doth the same tale repeat:<br />
Whither is fled the visionary gleam?<br />
Where is it now, the glory and the dream?	 </p>
<p>Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:<br />
The Soul that rises with us, our life’s Star,	  60<br />
        Hath had elsewhere its setting,<br />
          And cometh from afar:<br />
        Not in entire forgetfulness,<br />
        And not in utter nakedness,<br />
But trailing clouds of glory do we come	  65<br />
        From God, who is our home:<br />
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!<br />
Shades of the prison-house begin to close<br />
        Upon the growing Boy,<br />
But he beholds the light, and whence it flows,	  70<br />
        He sees it in his joy;<br />
The Youth, who daily farther from the east<br />
    Must travel, still is Nature’s priest,<br />
      And by the vision splendid<br />
      Is on his way attended;	  75<br />
At length the Man perceives it die away,<br />
And fade into the light of common day.	 </p>
<p>. . . </p>
<p>Thou, whose exterior semblance doth belie<br />
        Thy soul’s immensity;	 110<br />
Thou best philosopher, who yet dost keep<br />
Thy heritage, thou eye among the blind,<br />
That, deaf and silent, read’st the eternal deep,<br />
Haunted for ever by the eternal mind,–<br />
        Mighty prophet! Seer blest!	 115<br />
        On whom those truths do rest,<br />
Which we are toiling all our lives to find,<br />
In darkness lost, the darkness of the grave;<br />
Thou, over whom thy Immortality<br />
Broods like the Day, a master o’er a slave,	 120<br />
A presence which is not to be put by;<br />
          To whom the grave<br />
Is but a lonely bed without the sense or sight<br />
        Of day or the warm light,<br />
A place of thought where we in waiting lie;	 125<br />
Thou little Child, yet glorious in the might<br />
Of heaven-born freedom on thy being’s height,<br />
Why with such earnest pains dost thou provoke<br />
The years to bring the inevitable yoke,<br />
Thus blindly with thy blessedness at strife?	 130<br />
Full soon thy soul shall have her earthly freight,<br />
And custom lie upon thee with a weight,<br />
Heavy as frost, and deep almost as life!	 </p>
<p>        O joy! that in our embers<br />
        Is something that doth live,	 135<br />
        That nature yet remembers<br />
        What was so fugitive!<br />
The thought of our past years in me doth breed<br />
Perpetual benediction: not indeed<br />
For that which is most worthy to be blest–	 140<br />
Delight and liberty, the simple creed<br />
Of childhood, whether busy or at rest,<br />
With new-fledged hope still fluttering in his breast:–<br />
        Not for these I raise<br />
        The song of thanks and praise;	 145<br />
    But for those obstinate questionings<br />
    Of sense and outward things,<br />
    Fallings from us, vanishings;<br />
    Blank misgivings of a Creature<br />
Moving about in worlds not realized,	 150<br />
High instincts before which our mortal Nature<br />
Did tremble like a guilty thing surprised:<br />
        But for those first affections,<br />
        Those shadowy recollections,<br />
      Which, be they what they may,	 155<br />
Are yet the fountain-light of all our day,<br />
Are yet a master-light of all our seeing;<br />
  Uphold us, cherish, and have power to make<br />
Our noisy years seem moments in the being<br />
Of the eternal Silence: truths that wake,	 160<br />
            To perish never:<br />
Which neither listlessness, nor mad endeavour,<br />
            Nor Man nor Boy,<br />
Nor all that is at enmity with joy,<br />
Can utterly abolish or destroy!	 165</p>
<p>Hence in a season of calm weather<br />
        Though inland far we be,<br />
Our souls have sight of that immortal sea<br />
        Which brought us hither,<br />
    Can in a moment travel thither,	 170<br />
And see the children sport upon the shore,<br />
And hear the mighty waters rolling evermore.	 </p>
<p>. . .<br />
What though the radiance which was once so bright	 180<br />
Be now for ever taken from my sight,<br />
    Though nothing can bring back the hour<br />
Of splendour in the grass, of glory in the flower;<br />
      We will grieve not, rather find<br />
      Strength in what remains behind;	 185<br />
      In the primal sympathy<br />
      Which having been must ever be;<br />
      In the soothing thoughts that spring<br />
      Out of human suffering;<br />
      In the faith that looks through death,	 190<br />
In years that bring the philosophic mind.	 </p>
<p>. . .</p>
<p>Another race hath been, and other palms are won.<br />
Thanks to the human heart by which we live,	 205<br />
Thanks to its tenderness, its joys, and fears,<br />
To me, the meanest flower that blows can give<br />
Thoughts that do often lie too deep for tears.	</p>
<p>–William Wordsworth</p>
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