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		By: Adrianna		</title>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2013 00:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t carry classified information on your person. It makes people more expendable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t carry classified information on your person. It makes people more expendable.</p>
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		By: Rick Caird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Caird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 22:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe you don;t want to leave this up to Snowden to disclose, but do you really trut the guys who are spying on you without your knowledge.  

I supported the atriot Act.  I now regret that support.  As Glenn Reynolds pointed out, it had more to do with getting &quot;wish lists&quot; passed than it did with our safety.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you don;t want to leave this up to Snowden to disclose, but do you really trut the guys who are spying on you without your knowledge.  </p>
<p>I supported the atriot Act.  I now regret that support.  As Glenn Reynolds pointed out, it had more to do with getting &#8220;wish lists&#8221; passed than it did with our safety.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim Bender:

And no, Snowden did not &lt;i&gt;expose&lt;/i&gt; the NSA programs about phone records, etc.  Anyone who was paying close attention should have known about it already.  

As I said in this post and in others before it, other whistleblowers prior to Snowden revealed those things to Congress and to the public.  People didn&#039;t pay that much attention to them because they didn&#039;t call attention to &lt;i&gt;themselves&lt;/i&gt; in dramatic fashion in the way Snowden did.  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/16/snowden-whistleblower-nsa-officials-roundtable/2428809/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read this article&lt;/a&gt; about the whistleblowers.  They did it the right way.  

Snowden did it the wrong way.  And he did a lot of other things that were the wrong things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Bender:</p>
<p>And no, Snowden did not <i>expose</i> the NSA programs about phone records, etc.  Anyone who was paying close attention should have known about it already.  </p>
<p>As I said in this post and in others before it, other whistleblowers prior to Snowden revealed those things to Congress and to the public.  People didn&#8217;t pay that much attention to them because they didn&#8217;t call attention to <i>themselves</i> in dramatic fashion in the way Snowden did.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/06/16/snowden-whistleblower-nsa-officials-roundtable/2428809/" rel="nofollow">Read this article</a> about the whistleblowers.  They did it the right way.  </p>
<p>Snowden did it the wrong way.  And he did a lot of other things that were the wrong things.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Henry Bowman:

You have absolutely no idea---NONE---whether Snowden&#039;s revelations have on the whole been good for America or very, very bad for it.  That is the entire point of my post: that there is every reason to believe that the part we can see (the NSA phone-records, domestic surveillance part) is merely the tip of the iceberg that people think was a good thing to know.

It is astounding hubris if you think that&#039;s it, and that you &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; whether on the balance what Snowden has done is a good thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henry Bowman:</p>
<p>You have absolutely no idea&#8212;NONE&#8212;whether Snowden&#8217;s revelations have on the whole been good for America or very, very bad for it.  That is the entire point of my post: that there is every reason to believe that the part we can see (the NSA phone-records, domestic surveillance part) is merely the tip of the iceberg that people think was a good thing to know.</p>
<p>It is astounding hubris if you think that&#8217;s it, and that you <i>know</i> whether on the balance what Snowden has done is a good thing.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the things that bothered me from the very beginning was Snowden spouting off about how free and liberal Hong Kong was. Made me think he was either a very dumb guy to not understand that the place is under China&#039;s control or that he was sympathetic to China and simply pushing the party line.

I now lean heavily toward the second option.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that bothered me from the very beginning was Snowden spouting off about how free and liberal Hong Kong was. Made me think he was either a very dumb guy to not understand that the place is under China&#8217;s control or that he was sympathetic to China and simply pushing the party line.</p>
<p>I now lean heavily toward the second option.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m in full agreement that Snowden&#039;s exposure of &lt;i&gt;domestic&lt;/i&gt; surveillance is, on balance a positive good. That said, I find myself in agreement with neo&#039;s view; &lt;i&gt;&quot;I’m not talking about the surveillance program involving citizens of the US, I’m talking about other things Snowden revealed to our enemies.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

As well as Eichenwald&#039;s point;
&lt;i&gt;&quot;I can understand that disagreement when it comes to the data-mining program that slurps up e-mail and phone data of American citizens. But &lt;b&gt;what, exactly, is Snowden attempting to prove with his China revelations?&lt;/b&gt; That countries engage in espionage? That the United States listens in on communications of countries with which it maintains often tense and occasionally volatile relations?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

I see no positive good in Snowden&#039;s exposure of our capabilities and actions toward any foreign power, much less the Chinese. In that regard, Snowden has acted traitorously and if not an actual spy for a foreign power is certainly acting as one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in full agreement that Snowden&#8217;s exposure of <i>domestic</i> surveillance is, on balance a positive good. That said, I find myself in agreement with neo&#8217;s view; <i>&#8220;I’m not talking about the surveillance program involving citizens of the US, I’m talking about other things Snowden revealed to our enemies.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>As well as Eichenwald&#8217;s point;<br />
<i>&#8220;I can understand that disagreement when it comes to the data-mining program that slurps up e-mail and phone data of American citizens. But <b>what, exactly, is Snowden attempting to prove with his China revelations?</b> That countries engage in espionage? That the United States listens in on communications of countries with which it maintains often tense and occasionally volatile relations?&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>I see no positive good in Snowden&#8217;s exposure of our capabilities and actions toward any foreign power, much less the Chinese. In that regard, Snowden has acted traitorously and if not an actual spy for a foreign power is certainly acting as one.</p>
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		By: Henry Bowman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry Bowman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whatever Snowden&#039;s motivations were, the results of his going public have been good for America, as he has exposed the widespread criminal activities of the U.S. Government. Clapper should be first fired, then jailed. The NSA should not have its budget simply cut: it should be eliminated, and the folks at the NSA who authorized these activities should be put in jail.

Snowden&#039;s right about one thing, for sure: he should be afraid for his life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever Snowden&#8217;s motivations were, the results of his going public have been good for America, as he has exposed the widespread criminal activities of the U.S. Government. Clapper should be first fired, then jailed. The NSA should not have its budget simply cut: it should be eliminated, and the folks at the NSA who authorized these activities should be put in jail.</p>
<p>Snowden&#8217;s right about one thing, for sure: he should be afraid for his life.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not only is Snowden a traitor, he is also a narcissistic, immature nerd following the latest fad on internet transparency. In Germany, there is a now disintegrating political party that calls itself the pirate party. They probably started out because they didn&#039;t like having to pay for music and games. After winning some seats in a local election, they started arguing among themselves and lost some of their &quot;leaders.&quot; Few seemed to have any interest in other polotical issues such as the economy, foreign policy, or social issues. 

If the beginning of wisdom is to know what you don&#039;t know, These types haven&#039;t even approached the starting line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only is Snowden a traitor, he is also a narcissistic, immature nerd following the latest fad on internet transparency. In Germany, there is a now disintegrating political party that calls itself the pirate party. They probably started out because they didn&#8217;t like having to pay for music and games. After winning some seats in a local election, they started arguing among themselves and lost some of their &#8220;leaders.&#8221; Few seemed to have any interest in other polotical issues such as the economy, foreign policy, or social issues. </p>
<p>If the beginning of wisdom is to know what you don&#8217;t know, These types haven&#8217;t even approached the starting line.</p>
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		By: artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John Kerry urges Russian &quot;friends&quot; to hand over Edward Snowden 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jun/25/john-kerry-vladimir-putin-edward-snowden-video

if they are friends, they are not enemies
and if they are not enemies then snowden did not commit treason

funny, but i thought these idiots were lawyers? 

but then again, i have explained the term cross purposes (in ways that are opposed to each other ) with soviet feminism (why not with soviet racism, and soviet treason&#039;s)

if you make it that none of the people you send, give aid, transfer information, including the president cant make treason as the war point, then you also do it for the others. the courts are not quite kangaroo yet in their asymetrical idea of law under the equality before the law concepts that are but mere cargo cult imagry

Dmitri Rogozin, the key arms control official, announced Sunday that Russia is developing a new strategic &quot;superweapon&quot; to deal with its U.S. adversary

&quot;Russia is analyzing the situation,&quot; he said. &quot;We are creating a weapon that could be called a superweapon. This is a weapon that will allow us to see the enemy sooner than he will see us and to inflict a blow on him, in retaliatory measures, that will be irreversible for him.&quot; He did not elaborate.

&lt;b&gt;Russian President Vladimir Putin on June 20 also disclosed that Russia, following the Chinese military, is building state-of-the-art space weapons that would &quot;guarantee [for] Russia the fulfillment of space defense tasks for the period until 2020.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

By contrast, the Pentagon&#039;s new guidance on nuclear weapons issued last week appears to ignore the growing Russian strategic nuclear threat. The guidance states that although Russia is modernizing its nuclear forces, &lt;b&gt;&quot;Russia and the United States are no longer adversaries.&quot; &lt;/b&gt;

if thats what the pentagon said
then snowden is not a traitor, is he?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Kerry urges Russian &#8220;friends&#8221; to hand over Edward Snowden<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jun/25/john-kerry-vladimir-putin-edward-snowden-video" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2013/jun/25/john-kerry-vladimir-putin-edward-snowden-video</a></p>
<p>if they are friends, they are not enemies<br />
and if they are not enemies then snowden did not commit treason</p>
<p>funny, but i thought these idiots were lawyers? </p>
<p>but then again, i have explained the term cross purposes (in ways that are opposed to each other ) with soviet feminism (why not with soviet racism, and soviet treason&#8217;s)</p>
<p>if you make it that none of the people you send, give aid, transfer information, including the president cant make treason as the war point, then you also do it for the others. the courts are not quite kangaroo yet in their asymetrical idea of law under the equality before the law concepts that are but mere cargo cult imagry</p>
<p>Dmitri Rogozin, the key arms control official, announced Sunday that Russia is developing a new strategic &#8220;superweapon&#8221; to deal with its U.S. adversary</p>
<p>&#8220;Russia is analyzing the situation,&#8221; he said. &#8220;We are creating a weapon that could be called a superweapon. This is a weapon that will allow us to see the enemy sooner than he will see us and to inflict a blow on him, in retaliatory measures, that will be irreversible for him.&#8221; He did not elaborate.</p>
<p><b>Russian President Vladimir Putin on June 20 also disclosed that Russia, following the Chinese military, is building state-of-the-art space weapons that would &#8220;guarantee [for] Russia the fulfillment of space defense tasks for the period until 2020.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>By contrast, the Pentagon&#8217;s new guidance on nuclear weapons issued last week appears to ignore the growing Russian strategic nuclear threat. The guidance states that although Russia is modernizing its nuclear forces, <b>&#8220;Russia and the United States are no longer adversaries.&#8221; </b></p>
<p>if thats what the pentagon said<br />
then snowden is not a traitor, is he?</p>
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