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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/21/distrust-vs-security-domestic-and-foreign-part-ii/#comment-618943</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jun 2013 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course it&#039;s stupid, Mike. My point exactly. Stupidity knows no political party. We are surrounded by stupid, in and out of government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it&#8217;s stupid, Mike. My point exactly. Stupidity knows no political party. We are surrounded by stupid, in and out of government.</p>
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		By: Mike Giles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/21/distrust-vs-security-domestic-and-foreign-part-ii/#comment-618421</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Giles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 23:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Gerald Ford signed an Executive Order which remains in force, prohibiting the assassination or attempt thereof, of foreign leaders by the gubmint.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Which is stupid, unless of course, you believe that American soldiers dying is a better idea. Wouldn&#039;t it have been nice to have an intelligence service that could have assassinated A. Hitler on Sept. 2, 1939.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Gerald Ford signed an Executive Order which remains in force, prohibiting the assassination or attempt thereof, of foreign leaders by the gubmint.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Which is stupid, unless of course, you believe that American soldiers dying is a better idea. Wouldn&#8217;t it have been nice to have an intelligence service that could have assassinated A. Hitler on Sept. 2, 1939.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/21/distrust-vs-security-domestic-and-foreign-part-ii/#comment-618409</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 22:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/data-mining-edward-snowdens-qa/

Snowden went on a QA session. My view of it is up there.]]></description>
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<p>Snowden went on a QA session. My view of it is up there.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/21/distrust-vs-security-domestic-and-foreign-part-ii/#comment-618359</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-nsa-without-warrant&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;The top secret rules that allow NSA to use US data without a warrant&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The documents show that discretion as to who is actually targeted lies directly with the NSA&#039;s analysts. 

Top secret documents submitted to the court that oversees surveillance by US intelligence agencies show the judges have signed off on broad orders which allow the NSA to make use of information &quot;inadvertently&quot; collected from domestic US communications without a warrant.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Many wise men have warned of where this path leads;
&lt;i&gt;“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”&lt;/i&gt; Thomas Jefferson 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; C. S. Lewis

&lt;i&gt;&quot;“Secrecy is the keystone to all tyranny. Not force, but secrecy and censorship. When any government or church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, ‘This you may not read, this you must not know,’ the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Robert A Heinlein]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-nsa-without-warrant" rel="nofollow"><b>The top secret rules that allow NSA to use US data without a warrant</b></a> </p>
<p><i>&#8220;The documents show that discretion as to who is actually targeted lies directly with the NSA&#8217;s analysts. </p>
<p>Top secret documents submitted to the court that oversees surveillance by US intelligence agencies show the judges have signed off on broad orders which allow the NSA to make use of information &#8220;inadvertently&#8221; collected from domestic US communications without a warrant.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>Many wise men have warned of where this path leads;<br />
<i>“Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”</i> Thomas Jefferson </p>
<p><i>&#8220;Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.&#8221;</i> C. S. Lewis</p>
<p><i>&#8220;“Secrecy is the keystone to all tyranny. Not force, but secrecy and censorship. When any government or church for that matter, undertakes to say to its subjects, ‘This you may not read, this you must not know,’ the end result is tyranny and oppression, no matter how holy the motives.&#8221;</i> Robert A Heinlein</p>
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		By: artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/21/distrust-vs-security-domestic-and-foreign-part-ii/#comment-618307</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jack Ryan, from hunt for red October?   :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Ryan, from hunt for red October?   🙂</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/21/distrust-vs-security-domestic-and-foreign-part-ii/#comment-618305</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gerald Ford signed an Executive Order which remains in force, prohibiting the assassination or attempt thereof, of  foreign leaders by the gubmint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerald Ford signed an Executive Order which remains in force, prohibiting the assassination or attempt thereof, of  foreign leaders by the gubmint.</p>
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