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		By: Eric		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[parker: &quot;Soap box, ballot box, and cartridge box is proper order.&quot;

That&#039;s my problem with the Tea Party. They only perfunctorily did the soap box (proselytizing populist movement), hardly reaching beyond their natural in-groups, then skipped ahead to the ballot box and thereby undermined their movement. 

The proper place for the Tea Party to make a difference is the soap box and from there, shaping the ballot box.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parker: &#8220;Soap box, ballot box, and cartridge box is proper order.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my problem with the Tea Party. They only perfunctorily did the soap box (proselytizing populist movement), hardly reaching beyond their natural in-groups, then skipped ahead to the ballot box and thereby undermined their movement. </p>
<p>The proper place for the Tea Party to make a difference is the soap box and from there, shaping the ballot box.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 22:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;ll take more than reading about tactics to learn how to counter them.

Time is also running out. People won&#039;t be given an opportunity to make war their last resort. The time they spent waiting until their last resort, trying out every other ineffective method, was time they could have used to make the final option succeed at less cost in blood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;ll take more than reading about tactics to learn how to counter them.</p>
<p>Time is also running out. People won&#8217;t be given an opportunity to make war their last resort. The time they spent waiting until their last resort, trying out every other ineffective method, was time they could have used to make the final option succeed at less cost in blood.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 18:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[holy crapola!!! 

ELIZA PINKSTON ARRESTED FOR MURDER
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F50717FE3D5A137B93CAA8178AD95F4D8784F9

Reports of Committees: 30th Congress, 1st Session - 48th Congress, 2nd Session
http://tinyurl.com/kknvv3w

&lt;b&gt;you think that people in congress, know the history of congress and their own families?&lt;/b&gt;



&quot;&lt;b&gt;Black History Speech, 2012&lt;/b&gt;, Corinth Baptist Church, Mansfield, La. To the...&quot;
http://tinyurl.com/m7fchf8
&lt;blockquote&gt;
 In a statement given by a Frank Johnson, he was at a meeting where Frank Barrington and others spoke. According to Johnson, they were all republicans and spoke “Republican.” The Congressional record speaks of KKK killing blacks throughout the entire state of Louisiana.
In regards to the same elections in Ouachita Parish, an account of the killing of Henry Pinkston, a black Republican, was given by his widow, Eliza Pinkston. In order to intimidate the other blacks into not voting Republican, Pinkson was killed in front of his wife. His privates were cut off in front of his wife; he was gagged, dragged outside, his drawers taken off, his legs tied and then shot until he died. The killers then slit the throat of her 11 month old child and later threw the body of the child in the lake. She was shot twice, once in the breast and once in the leg. She was then struck in the head with an axe that broke and was left for dead. A Primus Johnson was also killed. The Congressional record is replete with people telling of how armed men roamed the streets of Monroe shooting, beating and even hanging blacks who would not vote as they were told. One man testified that he voted democratic in order to keep him and his wife from being beaten by democrats.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Richard Zemry Johnson, Jr]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holy crapola!!! </p>
<p>ELIZA PINKSTON ARRESTED FOR MURDER<br />
<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F50717FE3D5A137B93CAA8178AD95F4D8784F9" rel="nofollow ugc">http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F50717FE3D5A137B93CAA8178AD95F4D8784F9</a></p>
<p>Reports of Committees: 30th Congress, 1st Session &#8211; 48th Congress, 2nd Session<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/kknvv3w" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/kknvv3w</a></p>
<p><b>you think that people in congress, know the history of congress and their own families?</b></p>
<p>&#8220;<b>Black History Speech, 2012</b>, Corinth Baptist Church, Mansfield, La. To the&#8230;&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/m7fchf8" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/m7fchf8</a></p>
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 In a statement given by a Frank Johnson, he was at a meeting where Frank Barrington and others spoke. According to Johnson, they were all republicans and spoke “Republican.” The Congressional record speaks of KKK killing blacks throughout the entire state of Louisiana.<br />
In regards to the same elections in Ouachita Parish, an account of the killing of Henry Pinkston, a black Republican, was given by his widow, Eliza Pinkston. In order to intimidate the other blacks into not voting Republican, Pinkson was killed in front of his wife. His privates were cut off in front of his wife; he was gagged, dragged outside, his drawers taken off, his legs tied and then shot until he died. The killers then slit the throat of her 11 month old child and later threw the body of the child in the lake. She was shot twice, once in the breast and once in the leg. She was then struck in the head with an axe that broke and was left for dead. A Primus Johnson was also killed. The Congressional record is replete with people telling of how armed men roamed the streets of Monroe shooting, beating and even hanging blacks who would not vote as they were told. One man testified that he voted democratic in order to keep him and his wife from being beaten by democrats.</p></blockquote>
<p>Richard Zemry Johnson, Jr</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[if you go back as far as the redeemers, you may understand what is going on now, in a whole other light

it was hayes tilden that the dems got their education in race politics and how to win by any means... 

Redeemers
&lt;blockquote&gt;
In the 1870s, the Southern Democrats exercised power through paramilitary organizations such as the White League and Red Shirts, especially in Louisiana and Mississippi, respectively. The Red Shirts were also active in North Carolina. These paramilitary groups turned out Republican officeholders and terrorized and assassinated other freedmen and their allies to suppress voting. By the presidential election of 1876, only three Southern states — Louisiana, South Carolina, and Florida — were &quot;unredeemed&quot;, or not yet taken over by white Democrats. The disputed Presidential election between Rutherford B. Hayes (the Republican governor of Ohio) and Samuel J. Tilden (the Democratic governor of New York) was allegedly resolved by the Compromise of 1877, also known as the Corrupt Bargain.[1] In this compromise, it was claimed, Hayes became President in exchange for numerous favors to the South, one of which was the removal of Federal troops from the remaining &quot;unredeemed&quot; Southern states; this was however a policy Hayes had endorsed during his campaign. With the removal of these forces, Reconstruction came to an end.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

its then they learned to murder, kill, destroy reputations of their victims to avoid prosecution, and so on

just see the congressional testimony... 

been trying to clue you all in on this now for over a half decade...  if the public knew them and that they were this way for this long... what then? 

do note, that prior to becoming this nasty, the dems could not get votes... 

you can now download the articles of this, and compare that to the odd history of the hayes tilden on wiki... 

you can download the book, 
a political crime a history of the great fraud
by am gibson

it will BLOW your minds.

it would lead you to chandler, and you can then start the thread of the progressives, the racialists, and on it goes to today

in FACT... you can actually read academics discussion the george bush chits in florida with the redeemers actions of William E. Chandler... 

wiki has sanatized him
but as i said. if you know where to look, you know what to read, you can find it from the same source!

read eliza pinkstons testimony
Congressional edition - Volume 1735 - Page lxvii -  


or the ny times coverage of the massacres and murders... from eliza, to one massacre of blacks during repuglican convention, the memphis massacres, and so on... 


THE TESTIMONY IN DETAIL.; THE ELIZA PINKSTON OUTRAGE.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F30912F93F5A127B93C2AA178CD85F4C8784F9


THE LOUISIANA INVESTIGATION.; THE SENATE COMMITTEE&#039;S WORK--ELIZA PINKSTON UNABLE TO TESTIFY YESTERDAY--MORE OF THE BULL-DOZING. THE HOUSE COMMITTEE
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=FB0A17FD3D5A127B93C2AA1789D95F428784F9

get it before they scrub them!!!!!!!!

THE INVESTIGATIONS ELIZA PINKSTON CROSS-EXAMINED REPITITION OF HER FORMER TESTIMONY.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F00712FE3B5E137B93C1A8178AD85F438784F9

she and others are mentioned in 
State Power, Hegemony, and Memory:
Lotman and Gramsci / ASSORTED TOPICS FROM THE 2004 PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST

page 92
&lt;blockquote&gt;
People of African descent in Louisiana had their own “semiotic practices” to subvert those of the white supremacists. The testimony of a former slave, Eliza Pinkston, illustrates this. She was attacked in her home in north Louisiana in November of 1876,
when Democrats waged a campaign of terror against black and  white Republicans. Her husband and child were killed in the attack; Pinkston was raped and left for dead. Escaping in late November to the relative safety of New Orleans, she brought a criminal case against two of her attackers. It was heard in a New Orleans municipal police court.

Remarkably Pinkston found herself cross-examined in the case by John McEnery, the man named Governor by the Democrats during their brief coup of September 14, 1874. One of the men she accused was Tom Lyons, a “colored Democrat,” whom she located at the murder of her husband. McEnery asked her whether she knew where Lyons lived. Henry Pinkston, Eliza’s husband, had apparently been to Lyons’ house in the past, when Lyons had tried to persuade him to join the Democrats. McEnery asked sarcastically, “When colored people visit each other, do they not know where each other live, generally?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

at that time the political theory people brought this hsitory up, which is why i wanted or tried and tried to get you all to read it... 

its what informed the dems as to how to take the elections and so on. they borrow from all over, and those that dont know what happens where, dont know where they are borrowing from. 

but you can read about eliza in these articles for the 2004, and for 2007 pre election of OBama... 

so my linking the 1850s of marx and the race dems and eugenics... with today, and the marx and race dems and eugencis... which has never stopped... 

is not so silly

its only silly to those that dont know this deep history that is not taught, and hard to find.. 

Sadly, the author does not actually cover what they did to her. he did not even take the time to read her testimony, as she never was raped... 

ie. why would a perosn who hates blacks have sex with one?  why would people who wanted micagination laws rape a woman who they hated? 

no... they cut her breasts off... 

so even academics cant tell the truth about the party the majority of them sides with... (And as people who want to help blacks? and others?)

if you search its my comments that are the only ones that are on the net linking things as to that... 

once you start on that road, you get hundreds of side bars and history you never knew... it blows the mind that it exists right next to the other history, but the other history has all the turn offs neatly tied off, so you dont follow them to the side road and this stuff!!!!!!


you can even find people today trying to turn eliza into a liar still!!!!!!!!!!!  (what did she do? cut her own breasts off, murder her baby and slashed the throat and shot her husband so she can give testimoney in court and have southern bull dozers bull doze her?)

http://mountainmeadows.unl.edu/archive/mmm.lds.musser.1877.html
&lt;blockquote&gt;
The red hot feeling now kindled against us is entirely unwarranted. I speak from the record, having been identified with the &quot;Mormons&quot; since 1846. I know that the excitement and consequent prejudice periodically fanned to blood-heat against our citizens is made to promote the personal interests of very bad men. We have had, and now have in Utah, such frauds as &lt;b&gt;Eliza Pinkston&lt;/b&gt;, J. Madison Wells, and Returning Boards by the score. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

remember the carpet baggers were the radical republicans who were also the scalawags.. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
What this unenviable picture illustrates your readers need not be told, and time will demonstrate that the mouthy mob-exciters, now in that territory, and elsewhere, are of the same ilk. It has always been so. Many of the past U. S. carpet-baggers in Utah, who have been the most blatant opposers of our bible marriages, were leprous men. One of them left his wife and children in the east and took a courtesan with him west; she sat by his side on the judicial bench, and he introduced her as his wife. It was he who incited President Buchanan to send an army against us;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 here is example of past democratic name calling:
Many of our past officials have in every possible manner, by their judicial, official, and other acts, encouraged and screened prostitution and drunkenness. The pimp, harlot and rumseller would draw on them at sight, and they were ever ready to honor their drafts and aid in crippling the law officers of Salt Lake City, and other places, with writs, injunctions, etc.

the tirade is about the fact that they made laws against marrying many people... (see those old fights are still alive today)

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Among the most ardent, but pitiable, would-be regenerators was a man whose ambition centered in subjugating the &quot;Mormons,&quot; freeing Ireland from British rule, drinking whisky, and making love to a subaltern&#039;s wife; while his own wife and children were off on furlough, he took as kindly to the proxy, as it is said, measles take to children. Like the web-foot ex Governor, the sleeping-cars were favorite haunts wherein to gratify his amours.

The god-fathers of the anti-polygamy bill, and a once highly respected government official; now an humbled citizen of Indiana; and a man of New York city, who free-loved a neighbor&#039;s wife and was shot by the outraged husband; and a would-be popular actress, all bitter enemies to our daylight, healthy, and beautiful children-increasing marriages, have gone and are going into ineffable disgrace.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

fun people. 
anyone care to ADD to this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you go back as far as the redeemers, you may understand what is going on now, in a whole other light</p>
<p>it was hayes tilden that the dems got their education in race politics and how to win by any means&#8230; </p>
<p>Redeemers</p>
<blockquote><p>
In the 1870s, the Southern Democrats exercised power through paramilitary organizations such as the White League and Red Shirts, especially in Louisiana and Mississippi, respectively. The Red Shirts were also active in North Carolina. These paramilitary groups turned out Republican officeholders and terrorized and assassinated other freedmen and their allies to suppress voting. By the presidential election of 1876, only three Southern states — Louisiana, South Carolina, and Florida — were &#8220;unredeemed&#8221;, or not yet taken over by white Democrats. The disputed Presidential election between Rutherford B. Hayes (the Republican governor of Ohio) and Samuel J. Tilden (the Democratic governor of New York) was allegedly resolved by the Compromise of 1877, also known as the Corrupt Bargain.[1] In this compromise, it was claimed, Hayes became President in exchange for numerous favors to the South, one of which was the removal of Federal troops from the remaining &#8220;unredeemed&#8221; Southern states; this was however a policy Hayes had endorsed during his campaign. With the removal of these forces, Reconstruction came to an end.</p></blockquote>
<p>its then they learned to murder, kill, destroy reputations of their victims to avoid prosecution, and so on</p>
<p>just see the congressional testimony&#8230; </p>
<p>been trying to clue you all in on this now for over a half decade&#8230;  if the public knew them and that they were this way for this long&#8230; what then? </p>
<p>do note, that prior to becoming this nasty, the dems could not get votes&#8230; </p>
<p>you can now download the articles of this, and compare that to the odd history of the hayes tilden on wiki&#8230; </p>
<p>you can download the book,<br />
a political crime a history of the great fraud<br />
by am gibson</p>
<p>it will BLOW your minds.</p>
<p>it would lead you to chandler, and you can then start the thread of the progressives, the racialists, and on it goes to today</p>
<p>in FACT&#8230; you can actually read academics discussion the george bush chits in florida with the redeemers actions of William E. Chandler&#8230; </p>
<p>wiki has sanatized him<br />
but as i said. if you know where to look, you know what to read, you can find it from the same source!</p>
<p>read eliza pinkstons testimony<br />
Congressional edition &#8211; Volume 1735 &#8211; Page lxvii &#8211;  </p>
<p>or the ny times coverage of the massacres and murders&#8230; from eliza, to one massacre of blacks during repuglican convention, the memphis massacres, and so on&#8230; </p>
<p>THE TESTIMONY IN DETAIL.; THE ELIZA PINKSTON OUTRAGE.<br />
<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F30912F93F5A127B93C2AA178CD85F4C8784F9" rel="nofollow ugc">http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F30912F93F5A127B93C2AA178CD85F4C8784F9</a></p>
<p>THE LOUISIANA INVESTIGATION.; THE SENATE COMMITTEE&#8217;S WORK&#8211;ELIZA PINKSTON UNABLE TO TESTIFY YESTERDAY&#8211;MORE OF THE BULL-DOZING. THE HOUSE COMMITTEE<br />
<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=FB0A17FD3D5A127B93C2AA1789D95F428784F9" rel="nofollow ugc">http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=FB0A17FD3D5A127B93C2AA1789D95F428784F9</a></p>
<p>get it before they scrub them!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>THE INVESTIGATIONS ELIZA PINKSTON CROSS-EXAMINED REPITITION OF HER FORMER TESTIMONY.<br />
<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F00712FE3B5E137B93C1A8178AD85F438784F9" rel="nofollow ugc">http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F00712FE3B5E137B93C1A8178AD85F438784F9</a></p>
<p>she and others are mentioned in<br />
State Power, Hegemony, and Memory:<br />
Lotman and Gramsci / ASSORTED TOPICS FROM THE 2004 PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST</p>
<p>page 92</p>
<blockquote><p>
People of African descent in Louisiana had their own “semiotic practices” to subvert those of the white supremacists. The testimony of a former slave, Eliza Pinkston, illustrates this. She was attacked in her home in north Louisiana in November of 1876,<br />
when Democrats waged a campaign of terror against black and  white Republicans. Her husband and child were killed in the attack; Pinkston was raped and left for dead. Escaping in late November to the relative safety of New Orleans, she brought a criminal case against two of her attackers. It was heard in a New Orleans municipal police court.</p>
<p>Remarkably Pinkston found herself cross-examined in the case by John McEnery, the man named Governor by the Democrats during their brief coup of September 14, 1874. One of the men she accused was Tom Lyons, a “colored Democrat,” whom she located at the murder of her husband. McEnery asked her whether she knew where Lyons lived. Henry Pinkston, Eliza’s husband, had apparently been to Lyons’ house in the past, when Lyons had tried to persuade him to join the Democrats. McEnery asked sarcastically, “When colored people visit each other, do they not know where each other live, generally?”</p></blockquote>
<p>at that time the political theory people brought this hsitory up, which is why i wanted or tried and tried to get you all to read it&#8230; </p>
<p>its what informed the dems as to how to take the elections and so on. they borrow from all over, and those that dont know what happens where, dont know where they are borrowing from. </p>
<p>but you can read about eliza in these articles for the 2004, and for 2007 pre election of OBama&#8230; </p>
<p>so my linking the 1850s of marx and the race dems and eugenics&#8230; with today, and the marx and race dems and eugencis&#8230; which has never stopped&#8230; </p>
<p>is not so silly</p>
<p>its only silly to those that dont know this deep history that is not taught, and hard to find.. </p>
<p>Sadly, the author does not actually cover what they did to her. he did not even take the time to read her testimony, as she never was raped&#8230; </p>
<p>ie. why would a perosn who hates blacks have sex with one?  why would people who wanted micagination laws rape a woman who they hated? </p>
<p>no&#8230; they cut her breasts off&#8230; </p>
<p>so even academics cant tell the truth about the party the majority of them sides with&#8230; (And as people who want to help blacks? and others?)</p>
<p>if you search its my comments that are the only ones that are on the net linking things as to that&#8230; </p>
<p>once you start on that road, you get hundreds of side bars and history you never knew&#8230; it blows the mind that it exists right next to the other history, but the other history has all the turn offs neatly tied off, so you dont follow them to the side road and this stuff!!!!!!</p>
<p>you can even find people today trying to turn eliza into a liar still!!!!!!!!!!!  (what did she do? cut her own breasts off, murder her baby and slashed the throat and shot her husband so she can give testimoney in court and have southern bull dozers bull doze her?)</p>
<p><a href="http://mountainmeadows.unl.edu/archive/mmm.lds.musser.1877.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://mountainmeadows.unl.edu/archive/mmm.lds.musser.1877.html</a></p>
<blockquote><p>
The red hot feeling now kindled against us is entirely unwarranted. I speak from the record, having been identified with the &#8220;Mormons&#8221; since 1846. I know that the excitement and consequent prejudice periodically fanned to blood-heat against our citizens is made to promote the personal interests of very bad men. We have had, and now have in Utah, such frauds as <b>Eliza Pinkston</b>, J. Madison Wells, and Returning Boards by the score. </p></blockquote>
<p>remember the carpet baggers were the radical republicans who were also the scalawags.. </p>
<blockquote><p>
What this unenviable picture illustrates your readers need not be told, and time will demonstrate that the mouthy mob-exciters, now in that territory, and elsewhere, are of the same ilk. It has always been so. Many of the past U. S. carpet-baggers in Utah, who have been the most blatant opposers of our bible marriages, were leprous men. One of them left his wife and children in the east and took a courtesan with him west; she sat by his side on the judicial bench, and he introduced her as his wife. It was he who incited President Buchanan to send an army against us;
</p></blockquote>
<p> here is example of past democratic name calling:<br />
Many of our past officials have in every possible manner, by their judicial, official, and other acts, encouraged and screened prostitution and drunkenness. The pimp, harlot and rumseller would draw on them at sight, and they were ever ready to honor their drafts and aid in crippling the law officers of Salt Lake City, and other places, with writs, injunctions, etc.</p>
<p>the tirade is about the fact that they made laws against marrying many people&#8230; (see those old fights are still alive today)</p>
<blockquote><p>
Among the most ardent, but pitiable, would-be regenerators was a man whose ambition centered in subjugating the &#8220;Mormons,&#8221; freeing Ireland from British rule, drinking whisky, and making love to a subaltern&#8217;s wife; while his own wife and children were off on furlough, he took as kindly to the proxy, as it is said, measles take to children. Like the web-foot ex Governor, the sleeping-cars were favorite haunts wherein to gratify his amours.</p>
<p>The god-fathers of the anti-polygamy bill, and a once highly respected government official; now an humbled citizen of Indiana; and a man of New York city, who free-loved a neighbor&#8217;s wife and was shot by the outraged husband; and a would-be popular actress, all bitter enemies to our daylight, healthy, and beautiful children-increasing marriages, have gone and are going into ineffable disgrace.</p></blockquote>
<p>fun people.<br />
anyone care to ADD to this?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[The idea that Democrats actually count American votes is another one of those illusions.]]></description>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/20/congress-immigration-republicans/#comment-617952</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 05:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Unfortunately, most people think Washington needs to do more to fix our problems and everything would be better if they could work together.&quot;

As we all know, DC is the real problem.

&quot;Yet Americans weren’t willing to destroy Leftists or RINOs because… I suppose it was inconvenient.&quot;

It is more than inconvenient. It is blood and brains splattered on your face. To forestall that I am willing to take the slow, bumpy,path. Soap box, ballot box, and cartridge box is proper order.

&quot;I suppose nobody at the time believed that a civil war would even be realistic, and that it would ultimately be a lot more “inconvenient”.&quot;

Until all other options are exhausted, I will refrain from slitting the throat of my neighbors who may disagree with me.

&quot;When it all comes down to dust I will help you if I must, I will kill you if I can. And mercy on our uniform, man of peace or man of war, the peacock spreads his fan.&quot;

Engaging in the shedding of blood is not to be undertaken lightly. It may well be that day approaches, but until that day (per my reckoning) I will not shed blood. Instead I will vote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unfortunately, most people think Washington needs to do more to fix our problems and everything would be better if they could work together.&#8221;</p>
<p>As we all know, DC is the real problem.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet Americans weren’t willing to destroy Leftists or RINOs because… I suppose it was inconvenient.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is more than inconvenient. It is blood and brains splattered on your face. To forestall that I am willing to take the slow, bumpy,path. Soap box, ballot box, and cartridge box is proper order.</p>
<p>&#8220;I suppose nobody at the time believed that a civil war would even be realistic, and that it would ultimately be a lot more “inconvenient”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Until all other options are exhausted, I will refrain from slitting the throat of my neighbors who may disagree with me.</p>
<p>&#8220;When it all comes down to dust I will help you if I must, I will kill you if I can. And mercy on our uniform, man of peace or man of war, the peacock spreads his fan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Engaging in the shedding of blood is not to be undertaken lightly. It may well be that day approaches, but until that day (per my reckoning) I will not shed blood. Instead I will vote.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/20/congress-immigration-republicans/#comment-617902</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 03:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some libertarians may think the &quot;neo cons&quot; here and else where are finally &quot;seeing the light&quot; about Bush, Republicans = Obama, Democrats.

I would describe events a bit differently.

So long as Bush and other Republicans had a shot at reforming things, people gave them their support, for naturally Civil War was the natural result of any other alternative. And most people didn&#039;t want to fight over scraps when they could dine at restaurants to pay tips to waiters. Libertarians weren&#039;t any different. Their mistake was thinking that they had an &quot;alternative&quot; that didn&#039;t lead to either Civil War or the absolute destruction of the Left.

Those of us who thought slightly differently, who believed the Left was an absolute enemy of the United States citizenry, still at times back then thought there was hope. In the Republican party for reform, peaceful reform. The Tea Party, if not the GOP. Because the alternative was only the full cleansing through Fire and the Purge. That is what people who said a &quot;curse on both their houses&quot; never wanted to accept. If both Republicans and Democrats failed to reform the nation, there will not be another chance. Civil war will become inevitable. There is no point blaming Republicans or Democrats, when the individual in question refuses to accept the ultimate consequence and fate of their nation. Getting that wrong, renders all their other judgments null and void as well.

But now that we are here and people are actively thinking, and perhaps even planning, what was unthinkable just a few decades ago for the common man and woman, it should put into perspective just how important it was to purge the Republican party. Just how important it was to eliminate the Left&#039;s power.

Because if you didn&#039;t want to exert the effort on a national scale to do that... the national fate was inevitably sealed to the alternative. For what people cannot get at the negotiation table, they will get with the knife, sword, and fire.

In a modern sense, the blackmail material worked quite well on Republicans. Even if appealing to their patriotism and better nature did not. The Left was able to use the weaknesses of humans to destroy humans. Yet Americans weren&#039;t willing to destroy Leftists or RINOs because... I suppose it was inconvenient.

I suppose nobody at the time believed that a civil war would even be realistic, and that it would ultimately be a lot more &quot;inconvenient&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some libertarians may think the &#8220;neo cons&#8221; here and else where are finally &#8220;seeing the light&#8221; about Bush, Republicans = Obama, Democrats.</p>
<p>I would describe events a bit differently.</p>
<p>So long as Bush and other Republicans had a shot at reforming things, people gave them their support, for naturally Civil War was the natural result of any other alternative. And most people didn&#8217;t want to fight over scraps when they could dine at restaurants to pay tips to waiters. Libertarians weren&#8217;t any different. Their mistake was thinking that they had an &#8220;alternative&#8221; that didn&#8217;t lead to either Civil War or the absolute destruction of the Left.</p>
<p>Those of us who thought slightly differently, who believed the Left was an absolute enemy of the United States citizenry, still at times back then thought there was hope. In the Republican party for reform, peaceful reform. The Tea Party, if not the GOP. Because the alternative was only the full cleansing through Fire and the Purge. That is what people who said a &#8220;curse on both their houses&#8221; never wanted to accept. If both Republicans and Democrats failed to reform the nation, there will not be another chance. Civil war will become inevitable. There is no point blaming Republicans or Democrats, when the individual in question refuses to accept the ultimate consequence and fate of their nation. Getting that wrong, renders all their other judgments null and void as well.</p>
<p>But now that we are here and people are actively thinking, and perhaps even planning, what was unthinkable just a few decades ago for the common man and woman, it should put into perspective just how important it was to purge the Republican party. Just how important it was to eliminate the Left&#8217;s power.</p>
<p>Because if you didn&#8217;t want to exert the effort on a national scale to do that&#8230; the national fate was inevitably sealed to the alternative. For what people cannot get at the negotiation table, they will get with the knife, sword, and fire.</p>
<p>In a modern sense, the blackmail material worked quite well on Republicans. Even if appealing to their patriotism and better nature did not. The Left was able to use the weaknesses of humans to destroy humans. Yet Americans weren&#8217;t willing to destroy Leftists or RINOs because&#8230; I suppose it was inconvenient.</p>
<p>I suppose nobody at the time believed that a civil war would even be realistic, and that it would ultimately be a lot more &#8220;inconvenient&#8221;.</p>
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		By: KLSmith		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/20/congress-immigration-republicans/#comment-617868</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike : (was writing my comment before yours got posted.) Don&#039;t forget Mike Lee of Utah. 
Unfortunately, most people think Washington needs to do more to fix our problems and everything would be better if they could work together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike : (was writing my comment before yours got posted.) Don&#8217;t forget Mike Lee of Utah.<br />
Unfortunately, most people think Washington needs to do more to fix our problems and everything would be better if they could work together.</p>
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		By: holmes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/20/congress-immigration-republicans/#comment-617867</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ace/Drew M talk about &quot;redlines.&quot;  This might be it for me. If the GOP caves on this nonsense, that is the end of things between us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ace/Drew M talk about &#8220;redlines.&#8221;  This might be it for me. If the GOP caves on this nonsense, that is the end of things between us.</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/06/20/congress-immigration-republicans/#comment-617860</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2013 01:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Powerlineblog doing excellent work on this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Powerlineblog doing excellent work on this.</p>
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