If TEOTWAWKI, and Locke goes bye forever, then I’ll have to side with Hobbes’s Leviathan. I prefer we save the grand experiment of America so it doesn’t come to that.

Just live a normal life. With a normal exit plan.

Treat the bunker as a family vacation mansion.

I was once ready. Got tired of waiting for the apocalypse to arrive. Now too old to do the drill again.

I have no tin foil hat but I do have food for sons, daughter, their spouses, and grandchildren to last 3 year. Water for 3 months and access to limitless water to purify. I have 4 centerfire rifles and a safe full of ammo, plus a few handguns, a shotgun, and a compound bow with plenty of arrows. I have seeds and know how to preserve what i grow or hunt – fish. My kids have 4 rifles and 2 shotguns between them and a fair aoumt of ammo. In addition I have silver, about 50 lbs in coins and rounds. I save seeds that plant true year to year. I have the little things: mattches, candels, laterns and oil in a adundance. I know how to make vingear and wine, how to create cheese & presrve. I have chickens and rabbits with sufficient fed for 2-3years. Fuel:I have 500 gallons of treated gasoline and 8 cords of treated wood.

Interesting that it was enacted because of Nixon’s use of government resources against his political enemies. Ironic that it has now become a part of the discussion of whether Obama is using government resources to target his political opponents.

Were we satisfied with Bush’s record of balancing them and preserving civil liberties?

If the answer is yes, then review Bush’s record, identify the lines that Bush applied with the same powers for the same legitimate state interest, codify them, and hold Obama and future administrations to Bush’s lines.

Precedent has legal power. Use it.

Further, and this is key, and does not require the cultivation of paranoia, or the near-obsessive research by our nearly vowel-free friend: When the Demagogue Party and its flacks and hacks start telling obvious and even contradictory cover stories, making flimsy excuses, they are up to something again. e.g. The Benghazi debacle was covered over by: The video, the “fog of war”, not sending in troops when we did not know what was going on, orders to “do everything necessary to save American lives”, the evil Republicans had cut security appropriations, and probably a few others that we do not know or, at least, I can’t remember. (Also, keep in mind that no cuts took place, and even the sequester ‘cut’ did not take effect until three months after the attack.)

The IRS political targeting, again, was screened from view by the use of a kind of air chum, like: We did not know, the Republicans had cut enforcement appropriations, rogue agents, “I did everything right and I plead the Fifth.”

Look at anything that has come to light in the past six weeks, and you see the same pattern of scurrying, after the fact. In NCIS they call them ‘tells.’ We can see them lying, even when their lips are NOT moving.

I want our defense and law enforcement agencies to be strong and trustworthy. We need them to be both. What really irritates me is the fact that so much of this internal spying is done because of 9/11, but seems to be done much as the TSA airport operation – without profiling. This PC BS that you can’t profile religious and ethnic groups that conduct 99% of terrorism is just nutso. The other thing that irritates me is that just the threat of terrorists acts has caused so much dissension and strife within the nation. That is exactly what the Islamic terrorists are hoping to accomplish. Only by openly recognizing the enemy and marshaling our efforts against them (not against everyone) can we defend ourselves against their purposes. The way we are going weakens us due to bickering and backstabbing within. It’s self-defeating.