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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[rickl: &quot;They suffered from Bush fatigue, and were deliberately misled by the media about Obama.&quot;

The Bush fatigue was deliberate, too. Bush was deliberately debased by the same folks who deliberately venerated Obama. Both sides of the same election strategy. A vote can be for or *against*, or both.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rickl: &#8220;They suffered from Bush fatigue, and were deliberately misled by the media about Obama.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Bush fatigue was deliberate, too. Bush was deliberately debased by the same folks who deliberately venerated Obama. Both sides of the same election strategy. A vote can be for or *against*, or both.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 15:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo writes, in part, &quot;Don’t forget your liberal friends, if they are at all amenable to actually reading something you might send them (I’ve worn out my political welcome with most people).&quot;

She has worn out her political welcome with most; meaning conversions are rare.

I believe &#039;liberal friends&#039; are superficialities to us rightists. They are not true friends. They are like drinking buddies in bars. But when one stops being a bar-fly, those &quot;Cheers&quot; friends go &quot;Poof&quot; and disappear. A sober former drinker makes few friends in a bar of drunken &#039;friends&#039;- he makes lots of enemies, all of a sudden, because they do not want to change, to become sober as he has become, and has urged sobriety on these drunks with whatever cogent reasons. 

It is an individual thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo writes, in part, &#8220;Don’t forget your liberal friends, if they are at all amenable to actually reading something you might send them (I’ve worn out my political welcome with most people).&#8221;</p>
<p>She has worn out her political welcome with most; meaning conversions are rare.</p>
<p>I believe &#8216;liberal friends&#8217; are superficialities to us rightists. They are not true friends. They are like drinking buddies in bars. But when one stops being a bar-fly, those &#8220;Cheers&#8221; friends go &#8220;Poof&#8221; and disappear. A sober former drinker makes few friends in a bar of drunken &#8216;friends&#8217;- he makes lots of enemies, all of a sudden, because they do not want to change, to become sober as he has become, and has urged sobriety on these drunks with whatever cogent reasons. </p>
<p>It is an individual thing.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 04:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW, 5:29 pm -- &quot;I am pretty much convinced on the basis of my own experience, that you are, unfortunately, and on average, wrong in that regard.&quot;

Yep, based on how one very close friend of 45 (!) years cut me off.  It started when I posted a cartoon on Facebook lampooning the incumbent.  She said she was &quot;offended&quot; by the cartoon [her word].  I replied that in a truly post-racial society, the same standards apply to blacks as to whites, that there was nothing racist about the cartoon, and besides, consider how lefties have been lampooning righties mercilessly for years if not decades.

Long-story-short, to quote the incomparable Roy Orbison, &quot;It&#039;s Over&quot;. (1964)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVdG09fQ8Ek

I wish it weren&#039;t this way.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW, 5:29 pm &#8212; &#8220;I am pretty much convinced on the basis of my own experience, that you are, unfortunately, and on average, wrong in that regard.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yep, based on how one very close friend of 45 (!) years cut me off.  It started when I posted a cartoon on Facebook lampooning the incumbent.  She said she was &#8220;offended&#8221; by the cartoon [her word].  I replied that in a truly post-racial society, the same standards apply to blacks as to whites, that there was nothing racist about the cartoon, and besides, consider how lefties have been lampooning righties mercilessly for years if not decades.</p>
<p>Long-story-short, to quote the incomparable Roy Orbison, &#8220;It&#8217;s Over&#8221;. (1964)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVdG09fQ8Ek" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVdG09fQ8Ek</a></p>
<p>I wish it weren&#8217;t this way.</p>
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		By: SGT Caz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SGT Caz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 03:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have no doubt that this has been a screw-up of epic proportions and that Obama is, in some way, to blame for it. That&#039;s how authority works in a bureaucracy; some of this fecal matter should end up on his shoes, even assuming the best of him.

But the other side of this disgusting mess is what the Citizen&#039;s United decision has showed about non-profits and politics. We are never, ever going to be able to make a clear and hard distinction between groups with political motivations and those without. Mac&#039;s comment above is on target: Tea Party, Moveon.org, whatever. No one is clean here. It&#039;s accepted corruption, happening because the law does not function worth a crap when it tries to define guilt by intention instead of by solid action. Any political group can come up with a &quot;non-political&quot; reason to exist and put on the form.

They have the same problems when trying to define discrimination and outlaw it. You can&#039;t. Any prejudiced boss can come up with reasons not to hire someone, or to fire them, that sound valid. It&#039;s either their prerogative as boss to hire and fire, or it isn&#039;t.

Money is power. It can be used to manipulate people&#039;s opinions, through exposure if nothing else. This could all be handled differently if people weren&#039;t expecting government intervention in the first place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt that this has been a screw-up of epic proportions and that Obama is, in some way, to blame for it. That&#8217;s how authority works in a bureaucracy; some of this fecal matter should end up on his shoes, even assuming the best of him.</p>
<p>But the other side of this disgusting mess is what the Citizen&#8217;s United decision has showed about non-profits and politics. We are never, ever going to be able to make a clear and hard distinction between groups with political motivations and those without. Mac&#8217;s comment above is on target: Tea Party, Moveon.org, whatever. No one is clean here. It&#8217;s accepted corruption, happening because the law does not function worth a crap when it tries to define guilt by intention instead of by solid action. Any political group can come up with a &#8220;non-political&#8221; reason to exist and put on the form.</p>
<p>They have the same problems when trying to define discrimination and outlaw it. You can&#8217;t. Any prejudiced boss can come up with reasons not to hire someone, or to fire them, that sound valid. It&#8217;s either their prerogative as boss to hire and fire, or it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Money is power. It can be used to manipulate people&#8217;s opinions, through exposure if nothing else. This could all be handled differently if people weren&#8217;t expecting government intervention in the first place.</p>
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		By: Mr. Frank		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 02:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find the Frank Vandersloot treatment very chilling.

http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/frank-vandersloot-romney-donor-investigated-or-audited-by-irs-dol-4-times-after-making-enemies-list-94602/

Can all the agencies of our government be used to destroy people?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the Frank Vandersloot treatment very chilling.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/frank-vandersloot-romney-donor-investigated-or-audited-by-irs-dol-4-times-after-making-enemies-list-94602/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/frank-vandersloot-romney-donor-investigated-or-audited-by-irs-dol-4-times-after-making-enemies-list-94602/</a></p>
<p>Can all the agencies of our government be used to destroy people?</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rickl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 00:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DNW Says: 
May 20th, 2013 at 5:29 pm
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Though it may not be shocking to many commenters here; some of whom have stated that they had come to the regrettable conclusion that half of their friends and relatives would sell them out, if their thought that by not doing so their comfort would be interfered with in the least.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s why I cut all ties with them in November.  I ended friendships of 30 years.  And I burned the bridges behind me.

I can forgive young people for being fooled by Obama.  Hell, I voted for Carter when I was 18.  Young people do dumb things.

People closer to my age, in their 40s and 50s, I can sort of understand them voting for Obama the first time.  They suffered from Bush fatigue, and were deliberately misled by the media about Obama.

If they realized the error of their ways, fine.  But people my age who voted for him twice are enemies.  Period.  I want nothing further to do with them.

We are heading for a civil war, and it&#039;s time to choose sides.  There is no fraternizing with the enemy in wartime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW Says:<br />
May 20th, 2013 at 5:29 pm</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>Though it may not be shocking to many commenters here; some of whom have stated that they had come to the regrettable conclusion that half of their friends and relatives would sell them out, if their thought that by not doing so their comfort would be interfered with in the least.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s why I cut all ties with them in November.  I ended friendships of 30 years.  And I burned the bridges behind me.</p>
<p>I can forgive young people for being fooled by Obama.  Hell, I voted for Carter when I was 18.  Young people do dumb things.</p>
<p>People closer to my age, in their 40s and 50s, I can sort of understand them voting for Obama the first time.  They suffered from Bush fatigue, and were deliberately misled by the media about Obama.</p>
<p>If they realized the error of their ways, fine.  But people my age who voted for him twice are enemies.  Period.  I want nothing further to do with them.</p>
<p>We are heading for a civil war, and it&#8217;s time to choose sides.  There is no fraternizing with the enemy in wartime.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rickl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Baklava Says: 
May 20th, 2013 at 5:05 pm
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Coordinated.

Targeted.

In.Your.Face. BROWN SHIRTS — targeting “True the Vote” because they are for [b]fair voting.[/b]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do we need any further proof that the Democrats engage in systematic vote fraud as a matter of course?

If they don&#039;t, then why are they so adamantly opposed to voter ID?  Why are they afraid of True the Vote?

The Democratic Party is literally a criminal organization.  We have seen our last free and fair election in America.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava Says:<br />
May 20th, 2013 at 5:05 pm</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>Coordinated.</p>
<p>Targeted.</p>
<p>In.Your.Face. BROWN SHIRTS — targeting “True the Vote” because they are for [b]fair voting.[/b]</p></blockquote>
<p>Do we need any further proof that the Democrats engage in systematic vote fraud as a matter of course?</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t, then why are they so adamantly opposed to voter ID?  Why are they afraid of True the Vote?</p>
<p>The Democratic Party is literally a criminal organization.  We have seen our last free and fair election in America.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Baklava Says:
May 20th, 2013 at 5:49 pm

&lt;blockquote&gt;DNW,

What’s funny about the whole situation is that I’d give the shirt off my back to any family member or coworker or friend on a cold blustery day to help them.

But they can’t open their ears long enough to hear one bit of reasoning for a generous man like me.

They are so closed minded about hearing an alternative point of view and they use ridicule as their methodology.

At one recent family gathering I stayed silent as I listened to a group of liberals make fun of another family member for watching Fox News and no longer using a bank account.

I wanted so badly to open my mouth and tear into them about their meanness.

But I know what happens… Their meanness will simply be redirected towards me as they blindly go blathering on. These are the same people who lost homes buying too much home that they couldn’t afford here. I didn’t. That other guy they were making fun of didn’t lose his home.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;



It&#039;s easier said than done I suppose. I guess you have to calculate the cost versus the benefit of maintaining those social relations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava Says:<br />
May 20th, 2013 at 5:49 pm</p>
<blockquote><p>DNW,</p>
<p>What’s funny about the whole situation is that I’d give the shirt off my back to any family member or coworker or friend on a cold blustery day to help them.</p>
<p>But they can’t open their ears long enough to hear one bit of reasoning for a generous man like me.</p>
<p>They are so closed minded about hearing an alternative point of view and they use ridicule as their methodology.</p>
<p>At one recent family gathering I stayed silent as I listened to a group of liberals make fun of another family member for watching Fox News and no longer using a bank account.</p>
<p>I wanted so badly to open my mouth and tear into them about their meanness.</p>
<p>But I know what happens… Their meanness will simply be redirected towards me as they blindly go blathering on. These are the same people who lost homes buying too much home that they couldn’t afford here. I didn’t. That other guy they were making fun of didn’t lose his home.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s easier said than done I suppose. I guess you have to calculate the cost versus the benefit of maintaining those social relations.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s with the brown shirts bit?

They&#039;re the green shirts/ Green Police.

They&#039;re looking to establish a &lt;i&gt;sustainable&lt;/i&gt; despotism/ aristocracy of the elite -- because some people are just born and educated better. 

So, it&#039;s &quot;just them&quot; versus everyone else.

So, get in line, Boxer. (equine) Even a hoofer has to dance the tune.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s with the brown shirts bit?</p>
<p>They&#8217;re the green shirts/ Green Police.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re looking to establish a <i>sustainable</i> despotism/ aristocracy of the elite &#8212; because some people are just born and educated better. </p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s &#8220;just them&#8221; versus everyone else.</p>
<p>So, get in line, Boxer. (equine) Even a hoofer has to dance the tune.</p>
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		By: OlderandWheezier		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Baklava - is it too much to wish for when hoping that so much s--t hits the fan for Obama and the minions of the left that there&#039;s not enough TP in the world to wipe it off?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava &#8211; is it too much to wish for when hoping that so much s&#8211;t hits the fan for Obama and the minions of the left that there&#8217;s not enough TP in the world to wipe it off?</p>
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