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		By: AesopFan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/11/again-with-the-not-so-great-gatsby/#comment-964166</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AesopFan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2016 05:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dropped over from a post today on Books People Claim to Read but Don&#039;t -- never thought I would locate other Dunnett lovers! (But it&#039;s perhaps not as strange to find you here as it would be on some other blogs I frequent!)
 I practically memorized the Lymond Chronicles in High School and College; loved Johnson Johnson; fought my way through to the end of the Niccolo Cycle (loved parts, hated parts, all of it was brilliant).

Gatsby -- meh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dropped over from a post today on Books People Claim to Read but Don&#8217;t &#8212; never thought I would locate other Dunnett lovers! (But it&#8217;s perhaps not as strange to find you here as it would be on some other blogs I frequent!)<br />
 I practically memorized the Lymond Chronicles in High School and College; loved Johnson Johnson; fought my way through to the end of the Niccolo Cycle (loved parts, hated parts, all of it was brilliant).</p>
<p>Gatsby &#8212; meh.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/11/again-with-the-not-so-great-gatsby/#comment-595035</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 05:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Japanese light novels are light years more interesting than the Gatsby novel I read a decade ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japanese light novels are light years more interesting than the Gatsby novel I read a decade ago.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 15:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[George Warburton: there are many classics I don&#039;t like.  Someone suggested I write a post on it; perhaps I shall.

But &lt;em&gt;Wuthering Heights&lt;/em&gt; I love.  However, I can easily, easily see why a person would not share my enthusiasm.  It&#039;s a long tough slog, with all that weird dialect that&#039;s almost impossible to decipher.  A very dark book, as well.  I read it when I was about thirteen, and something made me push through it (probably my love for &lt;em&gt;Jane Eyre,&lt;/em&gt; a much more reader-friendly book) and I loved it and still do.  But it&#039;s a hard one in every sense of the word.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Warburton: there are many classics I don&#8217;t like.  Someone suggested I write a post on it; perhaps I shall.</p>
<p>But <em>Wuthering Heights</em> I love.  However, I can easily, easily see why a person would not share my enthusiasm.  It&#8217;s a long tough slog, with all that weird dialect that&#8217;s almost impossible to decipher.  A very dark book, as well.  I read it when I was about thirteen, and something made me push through it (probably my love for <em>Jane Eyre,</em> a much more reader-friendly book) and I loved it and still do.  But it&#8217;s a hard one in every sense of the word.</p>
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		By: George Warburton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 12:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I read that you found a &#039;classic&#039; unutterably boring, my heart sang.  For years I have fretted about my inability to appreciate anything but cops and robbers books.  I read the first word of Anna Karenina, closed the book and went to the pub.  I struggled through the first page of Wuthering Heights and thought about finding the same and throwing myself off.  I fought for weeks to find some interest in Lord of the Rings but finally gave up after one chapter.  
Thank you for giving me renewed hope.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read that you found a &#8216;classic&#8217; unutterably boring, my heart sang.  For years I have fretted about my inability to appreciate anything but cops and robbers books.  I read the first word of Anna Karenina, closed the book and went to the pub.  I struggled through the first page of Wuthering Heights and thought about finding the same and throwing myself off.  I fought for weeks to find some interest in Lord of the Rings but finally gave up after one chapter.<br />
Thank you for giving me renewed hope.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 04:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Smock Puppet: &quot;Manos, the Hands of Fate&quot; was a big favorite of ours when my son was small---the Mystery Science Theater 3000 (which was one of our favorite shows) version, that is, the one with the running commentary.  It was one of the funniest things ever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smock Puppet: &#8220;Manos, the Hands of Fate&#8221; was a big favorite of ours when my son was small&#8212;the Mystery Science Theater 3000 (which was one of our favorite shows) version, that is, the one with the running commentary.  It was one of the funniest things ever.</p>
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		By: Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Observater of "Like... Duh?" Moments		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 22:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The best description of Gatsby appears to be &quot;The movie they sandwiched between the releases of Ironman 3 and Star Trek - Into Darkness&quot;.

The former is an excellent comic-book movie (not quite as good as X-Men:FC or The Avengers, about as good as the best of the Raimi Spiderman films).

The latter has Benedict Cumberbatch as the villain, Khan Noonien Singh. If you&#039;ve seen him play Sherlock,  I don&#039;t see it as likely to be bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best description of Gatsby appears to be &#8220;The movie they sandwiched between the releases of Ironman 3 and Star Trek &#8211; Into Darkness&#8221;.</p>
<p>The former is an excellent comic-book movie (not quite as good as X-Men:FC or The Avengers, about as good as the best of the Raimi Spiderman films).</p>
<p>The latter has Benedict Cumberbatch as the villain, Khan Noonien Singh. If you&#8217;ve seen him play Sherlock,  I don&#8217;t see it as likely to be bad.</p>
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		By: Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Observater of "Like... Duh?" Moments		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 22:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;and she had a thing for collecting/adopting children from all over the world before it occured to Madonna&lt;/i&gt;

Including girls named  &quot;Soon-Yi&quot;... :-D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>and she had a thing for collecting/adopting children from all over the world before it occured to Madonna</i></p>
<p>Including girls named  &#8220;Soon-Yi&#8221;&#8230; 😀</p>
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		By: Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Observater of "Like... Duh?" Moments		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/11/again-with-the-not-so-great-gatsby/#comment-594241</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 22:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#062;&#062;&#062; &lt;i&gt;In other words, we are better to leave our dreams and visions just that, and if we attempt to match them to reality we will be bitterly disappointed.&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, it&#039;s the same with sexual fantasies. If you attempt to make them happen, they almost always, if not always, disappoint. Acting out your fantasies is a bad idea no matter what they are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt; <i>In other words, we are better to leave our dreams and visions just that, and if we attempt to match them to reality we will be bitterly disappointed.</i></p>
<p>Yeah, it&#8217;s the same with sexual fantasies. If you attempt to make them happen, they almost always, if not always, disappoint. Acting out your fantasies is a bad idea no matter what they are.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 22:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;With the phoniest set of performances this side of an Ed Wood flick, you might as well be watching Plan 9 From Outer Space.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Y&#039;know, people often cite this as the worst movie ever made, but it truly isn&#039;t even close. 

&lt;b&gt;No, not even &lt;i&gt;c-l-o-s-e&lt;/i&gt; !!&lt;/b&gt;

I mean, the most obvious defense you can make, that anyone can see, is that the camera operator had some concept of how to &quot;pull focus&quot;, that is, the entire picture isn&#039;t in FuzzyVision.

No, I would argue that the worst movie ever made -- certainly the worst one I&#039;m aware of -- which got any kind of theatrical release, is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060666/?ref_=sr_1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Manos, The Hands Of Fate&lt;/a&gt;

Amongst its many qualifying &quot;features&quot; are:
a) Entirely filmed in full power FuzzyVision. No cameras were properly focused during the production of this film.
b) Most, if not all of the footage is poorly chromakeyed -- it&#039;s washed out and dull looking. This impacts not only the overall film, but also makes &quot;c&quot; below even worse...
c) It&#039;s about 30 minutes worth of actual footage/story padded out to 74 minutes by endless -- and yes, I do mean truly interminable -- shots of passing scenery -- along with throwaway scenes of people and events who appear nowhere else in the film and have no relevance to the plot or the story or anything except adding time to the movie.
d) Oh, gad, the dialog is soooo slow and boring you want to rip your ears off just so something interesting will happen.
e) Acting? Wut dat?
f) Music. Ewwww. Just ewwww.... Either the soundtrack was also sold as the intermission music used in Drive-Ins throughout the 60s and 70s, or the other way around.

In fact, it would be hard to list a single redeeming feature ANYWHERE in this movie.

I do not recommend you find an original copy. It&#039;s only tolerable with the MST3k commentary track. In fact, it&#039;s so full of things to complain about and make fun of that this is clearly the only way to watch it -- either with friends just as capable as the Mistie writers, or with the assistance of the Mistie writers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>With the phoniest set of performances this side of an Ed Wood flick, you might as well be watching Plan 9 From Outer Space.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Y&#8217;know, people often cite this as the worst movie ever made, but it truly isn&#8217;t even close. </p>
<p><b>No, not even <i>c-l-o-s-e</i> !!</b></p>
<p>I mean, the most obvious defense you can make, that anyone can see, is that the camera operator had some concept of how to &#8220;pull focus&#8221;, that is, the entire picture isn&#8217;t in FuzzyVision.</p>
<p>No, I would argue that the worst movie ever made &#8212; certainly the worst one I&#8217;m aware of &#8212; which got any kind of theatrical release, is <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060666/?ref_=sr_1" rel="nofollow">Manos, The Hands Of Fate</a></p>
<p>Amongst its many qualifying &#8220;features&#8221; are:<br />
a) Entirely filmed in full power FuzzyVision. No cameras were properly focused during the production of this film.<br />
b) Most, if not all of the footage is poorly chromakeyed &#8212; it&#8217;s washed out and dull looking. This impacts not only the overall film, but also makes &#8220;c&#8221; below even worse&#8230;<br />
c) It&#8217;s about 30 minutes worth of actual footage/story padded out to 74 minutes by endless &#8212; and yes, I do mean truly interminable &#8212; shots of passing scenery &#8212; along with throwaway scenes of people and events who appear nowhere else in the film and have no relevance to the plot or the story or anything except adding time to the movie.<br />
d) Oh, gad, the dialog is soooo slow and boring you want to rip your ears off just so something interesting will happen.<br />
e) Acting? Wut dat?<br />
f) Music. Ewwww. Just ewwww&#8230;. Either the soundtrack was also sold as the intermission music used in Drive-Ins throughout the 60s and 70s, or the other way around.</p>
<p>In fact, it would be hard to list a single redeeming feature ANYWHERE in this movie.</p>
<p>I do not recommend you find an original copy. It&#8217;s only tolerable with the MST3k commentary track. In fact, it&#8217;s so full of things to complain about and make fun of that this is clearly the only way to watch it &#8212; either with friends just as capable as the Mistie writers, or with the assistance of the Mistie writers.</p>
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		By: JFM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2013 17:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A suggestion for a future Neo-NeoCon topic: &quot;Books that I was supposed to like but didn&#039;t.&quot;]]></description>
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