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		By: Jamie		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just came across this post while doing some research, and while it&#039;s from mid 2013, I appreciated the perspective. These statistics are pretty astounding (and since it&#039;s from mid-2013, the stats are still very relevant). While it&#039;s true that &#039;the great recession&#039; stemmed from the 2008 Wall Street Etc. economic shenanigans, the 1999-2010 timeframe also saw the dot-com crash, the whole Enron etc. thing (and disappearing retirement accounts), etc. It&#039;s likely that some of this may have had an effect, along with some of the other considerations, like loss of identity, etc.

Thanks for the post!

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Jamie]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across this post while doing some research, and while it&#8217;s from mid 2013, I appreciated the perspective. These statistics are pretty astounding (and since it&#8217;s from mid-2013, the stats are still very relevant). While it&#8217;s true that &#8216;the great recession&#8217; stemmed from the 2008 Wall Street Etc. economic shenanigans, the 1999-2010 timeframe also saw the dot-com crash, the whole Enron etc. thing (and disappearing retirement accounts), etc. It&#8217;s likely that some of this may have had an effect, along with some of the other considerations, like loss of identity, etc.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post!</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Jamie</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 20:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[artfldgr: in my opinion, anyone who bought all (or even most) that the feminist movement promised (including all those things that went against common sense, tradition, logic, or observations of life and people and the differences between the sexes) was a fool, then and now.

It was always absurd to think men some sort of enemy and women wonderful.  It was always absurd (stupid, narcissistic, unrealistic, gullible) to think anyone---men or women---could have it all and do it all well.   

I never bought it.  What&#039;s more, most of the women I knew didn&#039;t buy it either.  Some did, but they were in the minority.  I&#039;m not sure what made the differences, but most of that latter group ended up disillusioned.  

However, most of that latter group seems to have gone into academia and/or political activity and influenced the next generations of women mightily.  The young people I know seem to have more common sense than that, but from what I read it may be &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; ( the more skeptical ones with common sense, that is) who are in the minority now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>artfldgr: in my opinion, anyone who bought all (or even most) that the feminist movement promised (including all those things that went against common sense, tradition, logic, or observations of life and people and the differences between the sexes) was a fool, then and now.</p>
<p>It was always absurd to think men some sort of enemy and women wonderful.  It was always absurd (stupid, narcissistic, unrealistic, gullible) to think anyone&#8212;men or women&#8212;could have it all and do it all well.   </p>
<p>I never bought it.  What&#8217;s more, most of the women I knew didn&#8217;t buy it either.  Some did, but they were in the minority.  I&#8217;m not sure what made the differences, but most of that latter group ended up disillusioned.  </p>
<p>However, most of that latter group seems to have gone into academia and/or political activity and influenced the next generations of women mightily.  The young people I know seem to have more common sense than that, but from what I read it may be <i>they</i> ( the more skeptical ones with common sense, that is) who are in the minority now.</p>
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		By: artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 20:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Baby Boomer Women Are Committing Suicide..Why?
October 28, 2008 on 12:39 pm &#124; In Depression, Feminism, Marriage, Motherhood, Women Email This Post Email This Post

I was at first stunned — then not — to read that research from Johns Hopkins School of Public Health points toward white, middle aged women as being particularly prone to depression leading to suicides.  I’m a middle aged, white, female baby-boomer, so this caught my attention, especially since the researchers seemed clueless as to what would be behind this spike.

Having talked to women for over thirty years on the radio, I think I know.  We middle-aged, white females from the sixties were sold a bill of goods by the originally well-meaning women’s movement.  The bits about equal pay for equal experience and competence were kind of a no-brainer.  The bits about men, marriage, sex, babies, and home-making being negatives in our lives — because, of course, they were oppressive and demeaning — also seemed obvious at the time.  So, with the introduction of consciousness raising (that is, learning to mistrust, not need, and even loathe men) and women’s studies programs (which conceived of elevating women by making them perpetually angry victims), we were on our way to a collision course to today: depression and suicide.


http://www.drlaurablog.com/2008/10/28/baby-boomer-women-are-committing-suicidewhy/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baby Boomer Women Are Committing Suicide..Why?<br />
October 28, 2008 on 12:39 pm | In Depression, Feminism, Marriage, Motherhood, Women Email This Post Email This Post</p>
<p>I was at first stunned — then not — to read that research from Johns Hopkins School of Public Health points toward white, middle aged women as being particularly prone to depression leading to suicides.  I’m a middle aged, white, female baby-boomer, so this caught my attention, especially since the researchers seemed clueless as to what would be behind this spike.</p>
<p>Having talked to women for over thirty years on the radio, I think I know.  We middle-aged, white females from the sixties were sold a bill of goods by the originally well-meaning women’s movement.  The bits about equal pay for equal experience and competence were kind of a no-brainer.  The bits about men, marriage, sex, babies, and home-making being negatives in our lives — because, of course, they were oppressive and demeaning — also seemed obvious at the time.  So, with the introduction of consciousness raising (that is, learning to mistrust, not need, and even loathe men) and women’s studies programs (which conceived of elevating women by making them perpetually angry victims), we were on our way to a collision course to today: depression and suicide.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.drlaurablog.com/2008/10/28/baby-boomer-women-are-committing-suicidewhy/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.drlaurablog.com/2008/10/28/baby-boomer-women-are-committing-suicidewhy/</a></p>
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		By: njartist49		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 17:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Indigo Red ;May 3rd, 2013 at 6:46 pm 
&lt;i&gt;&quot;there’s no time to recoup or their skills no longer match the market&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

It used to be that when a man fell on hard times, he could go join a work crew doing carpentry, painting, mowing lawns etc: the work load would depend on his physical capacity; but, today those opportunities are removed due to the PTB&#039;s program of democide of the native population: one cannot drop down to labor work because the imported labor now fills those positions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Indigo Red ;May 3rd, 2013 at 6:46 pm<br />
<i>&#8220;there’s no time to recoup or their skills no longer match the market&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It used to be that when a man fell on hard times, he could go join a work crew doing carpentry, painting, mowing lawns etc: the work load would depend on his physical capacity; but, today those opportunities are removed due to the PTB&#8217;s program of democide of the native population: one cannot drop down to labor work because the imported labor now fills those positions.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 19:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When life is cheap, life is cheap.

You abort 50m babies; you Gosnell an entire culture....you&#039;re going to have a lot of bad stuff like suicides going on.

The law that you reap what you sow is proven once again to be 100% correct 100% of the time...mostly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When life is cheap, life is cheap.</p>
<p>You abort 50m babies; you Gosnell an entire culture&#8230;.you&#8217;re going to have a lot of bad stuff like suicides going on.</p>
<p>The law that you reap what you sow is proven once again to be 100% correct 100% of the time&#8230;mostly.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 15:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gets rather lonely in one&#039;s old age without a stable marriage, grand children, or a personal legacy.

All that free love and Leftist liberalization/slave indoctrination, has deleterious effects in the long term on social vibrancy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gets rather lonely in one&#8217;s old age without a stable marriage, grand children, or a personal legacy.</p>
<p>All that free love and Leftist liberalization/slave indoctrination, has deleterious effects in the long term on social vibrancy.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 20:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and occasional Liaison Dangereuse Says: 
May 4th, 2013 at 7:07 am
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;I’m railing against anyone born in that time frame who has wholeheartedly embraced the socially cancerous meme of Postmodern Liberalism… which, c’mon, is MOST of that generation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You realize that many of the &quot;changers&quot; who comment here did in fact embrace Postmodern Liberalism at least for a while, right?

My first vote was for Carter in 1976.  I never did vote for Reagan.  It was only much later that I came to appreciate what a great President he was.  I certainly didn&#039;t feel that way at the time.

So yes, I have done my share in helping to fuck things up.  Guilty as charged.  ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and occasional Liaison Dangereuse Says:<br />
May 4th, 2013 at 7:07 am</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>I’m railing against anyone born in that time frame who has wholeheartedly embraced the socially cancerous meme of Postmodern Liberalism… which, c’mon, is MOST of that generation.</p></blockquote>
<p>You realize that many of the &#8220;changers&#8221; who comment here did in fact embrace Postmodern Liberalism at least for a while, right?</p>
<p>My first vote was for Carter in 1976.  I never did vote for Reagan.  It was only much later that I came to appreciate what a great President he was.  I certainly didn&#8217;t feel that way at the time.</p>
<p>So yes, I have done my share in helping to fuck things up.  Guilty as charged.  😉</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 20:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John D. MacDonald&#039;s Travis McGee remarked that suicide is a uniquely selfish act.
But there are degrees.  Suppose an older boomer is divorced or widowed.   His kids are on their own and doing okay.  His parents are gone or suffering some kind of living hell in a nursing home.
He&#039;s lost his job and isn&#039;t going to be any good to anyone who needs money, and if he&#039;s not close with his grandkids, there&#039;s nobody to be really, really impacted by his death.  So why not suicide?  Presuming things are so bad that there&#039;s no sense going on, the loss felt by other people, it may be thought, is minimal.  Thus, it&#039;s not as selfish as soem other suicides.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John D. MacDonald&#8217;s Travis McGee remarked that suicide is a uniquely selfish act.<br />
But there are degrees.  Suppose an older boomer is divorced or widowed.   His kids are on their own and doing okay.  His parents are gone or suffering some kind of living hell in a nursing home.<br />
He&#8217;s lost his job and isn&#8217;t going to be any good to anyone who needs money, and if he&#8217;s not close with his grandkids, there&#8217;s nobody to be really, really impacted by his death.  So why not suicide?  Presuming things are so bad that there&#8217;s no sense going on, the loss felt by other people, it may be thought, is minimal.  Thus, it&#8217;s not as selfish as soem other suicides.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 16:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One more thought when discussing the issue of suicide is that we need to remember that these are deaths of unique individual people and most of them will be missed and mourned by family and friends.  Suicide has always been with us and in our culture it has typically not been viewed as a good way to leave this world.  

I made comments above about things that might be missing from the boomers that cause a rise in the rate of suicide but I have know a few people who died this way over the years, including a sister-in-law and they were all born before WWII.  

It is often so hard for those left behind to understand what the process was that caused a particular person to take that final step and I urge caution for people dealing with a person who might be heading in that direction no matter what age group that individual might fall in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thought when discussing the issue of suicide is that we need to remember that these are deaths of unique individual people and most of them will be missed and mourned by family and friends.  Suicide has always been with us and in our culture it has typically not been viewed as a good way to leave this world.  </p>
<p>I made comments above about things that might be missing from the boomers that cause a rise in the rate of suicide but I have know a few people who died this way over the years, including a sister-in-law and they were all born before WWII.  </p>
<p>It is often so hard for those left behind to understand what the process was that caused a particular person to take that final step and I urge caution for people dealing with a person who might be heading in that direction no matter what age group that individual might fall in.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I realize that the definition of what birth years are included in the &quot;boomer&quot; are based on a baby boom that lasted from after the war until the early 60&#039;s.   However, it has always mildly irked me to be included within that definitional group -- and be part of the stereotyped image of the Viet Nam war vet/protester/hippy/LSD Woodstock crowd. 

I was born in 1958.  H.S. class of &#039;76.  College &#039;76-80.  The high school years for the classes from &#039;73 through &#039;80, and the resulting college years, were NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING like the late 60&#039;s.   When the 14 year old future bra burner free love girls were screaming at the Beatles -- we were toddlers, for pete&#039;s sake.  JFK assassination as some sort of generational &quot;defining moment?&quot;  Sorry, no recollection -- I was 4.   During the love-ins, LSD fests, flag burning, Woodstock festival, peace signs on the VW bus, Jimi Hendrix and Joni Mitchell, peacenik activities.......we were in elementary school.  Riding our sting ray bikes, watching Bugs Bunny -Road Runner hour on Saturday mornings, and at night shows like Gilligans Island and Batman.  

I was ten when RFK was shot.  I don&#039;t even remember anything about the Tet Offensive -- I never watched Walter Cronkite at that age.   There was no draft  by the time we hit age 18. 

When my son asked me what it was like for me to live in those tumultuous and wild and crazy  60&#039;s, I told him - &quot;go watch a Wonder Years re-run from its first season.    I was that kid on the sting ray bike, with the butthead older brother.&quot;   When he says - but what about the college years -- you know, hippies and protests and love-ins, and sit-ins and stuff - it must have been cool.&quot;    I told him - you want to know what it was kind of like for me?   Watch Saturday Night Fever.  Ignore the disco aspect of the plot.  Just the guys roaming around wondering what the hell to do with their lives.   Pot was something to smoke to escape from life from -- it was no longer anything close to being a &quot;rebellious statement&quot; against &quot;the man.&quot; 

As for the political leanings of the people from my &quot;subgroup&quot; of boomers......I would bet money that white males between the ages of 50 and 58 (1955-1963) - &quot;boomers&quot; all -- voted OVERWHELMINGLY for McCain/Palin and Romney - -- Just as huge numbers of us voted for Reagan as college students and then as &quot;yuppies&quot; after college.   I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the Romney margin was well in excess of 60%.   Even higher (I&#039;d bet 70%) for married regular church attenders, in that group.

So to those who want to lazily lump us all together in with the limited number of people who came from the  hippy culture of entitled moral relativists, who came of age just in time to burn their draft cards, their bras, and the campus administration building (while my friends and I were playing board games, with Lost in Space on in the background)  -- and therefore long for our early demise, I&#039;ll use an expression the older boomers used -- Up Yours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that the definition of what birth years are included in the &#8220;boomer&#8221; are based on a baby boom that lasted from after the war until the early 60&#8217;s.   However, it has always mildly irked me to be included within that definitional group &#8212; and be part of the stereotyped image of the Viet Nam war vet/protester/hippy/LSD Woodstock crowd. </p>
<p>I was born in 1958.  H.S. class of &#8217;76.  College &#8217;76-80.  The high school years for the classes from &#8217;73 through &#8217;80, and the resulting college years, were NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING like the late 60&#8217;s.   When the 14 year old future bra burner free love girls were screaming at the Beatles &#8212; we were toddlers, for pete&#8217;s sake.  JFK assassination as some sort of generational &#8220;defining moment?&#8221;  Sorry, no recollection &#8212; I was 4.   During the love-ins, LSD fests, flag burning, Woodstock festival, peace signs on the VW bus, Jimi Hendrix and Joni Mitchell, peacenik activities&#8230;&#8230;.we were in elementary school.  Riding our sting ray bikes, watching Bugs Bunny -Road Runner hour on Saturday mornings, and at night shows like Gilligans Island and Batman.  </p>
<p>I was ten when RFK was shot.  I don&#8217;t even remember anything about the Tet Offensive &#8212; I never watched Walter Cronkite at that age.   There was no draft  by the time we hit age 18. </p>
<p>When my son asked me what it was like for me to live in those tumultuous and wild and crazy  60&#8217;s, I told him &#8211; &#8220;go watch a Wonder Years re-run from its first season.    I was that kid on the sting ray bike, with the butthead older brother.&#8221;   When he says &#8211; but what about the college years &#8212; you know, hippies and protests and love-ins, and sit-ins and stuff &#8211; it must have been cool.&#8221;    I told him &#8211; you want to know what it was kind of like for me?   Watch Saturday Night Fever.  Ignore the disco aspect of the plot.  Just the guys roaming around wondering what the hell to do with their lives.   Pot was something to smoke to escape from life from &#8212; it was no longer anything close to being a &#8220;rebellious statement&#8221; against &#8220;the man.&#8221; </p>
<p>As for the political leanings of the people from my &#8220;subgroup&#8221; of boomers&#8230;&#8230;I would bet money that white males between the ages of 50 and 58 (1955-1963) &#8211; &#8220;boomers&#8221; all &#8212; voted OVERWHELMINGLY for McCain/Palin and Romney &#8211; &#8212; Just as huge numbers of us voted for Reagan as college students and then as &#8220;yuppies&#8221; after college.   I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the Romney margin was well in excess of 60%.   Even higher (I&#8217;d bet 70%) for married regular church attenders, in that group.</p>
<p>So to those who want to lazily lump us all together in with the limited number of people who came from the  hippy culture of entitled moral relativists, who came of age just in time to burn their draft cards, their bras, and the campus administration building (while my friends and I were playing board games, with Lost in Space on in the background)  &#8212; and therefore long for our early demise, I&#8217;ll use an expression the older boomers used &#8212; Up Yours.</p>
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