Comments on: The Boston bomber and the death penalty https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/ A blog about political change, among other things Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:20:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: หมอนรองกระดูกทับเส้นประสาท https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-814308 Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:20:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-814308 รองกระดูกทับเส้นประสาท</a>]]> Colocynthis – weakness and cramping in the small of the back.
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]]> By: Ymarsakar https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-729718 Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:50:53 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-729718 Power determines what rights are. A society is merely an authoritarian, totalitarian, force telling people what to do. That is all it comes out as.

]]> By: njartist49 https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-588656 Fri, 03 May 2013 12:38:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-588656 Those who banned – or of the ideology who banned – the death penalty cannot come back around to call for the death penalty now just for one criminal whom they did not foresee.

Also, reading a criminal his Miranda rights is not to be suspended on the basis of the nature of the crime committed: “terrorism” becomes the catch-all phrase by which the government can now suspend all rights of the accused: “you’re a patriotic Christian who desires a return to the constitution? Well, that makes you a terrorist; therefor, you have no rights!”

Oops! Did I just become a “terrorist” for upholding the the rights of accused criminals?

]]> By: KBK https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-588230 Thu, 02 May 2013 15:52:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-588230 He’s pretty cute. I recommend supermax or the big house, his choice. Worse than death.

]]> By: RickZ https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-588088 Thu, 02 May 2013 10:36:04 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-588088 One more reason why I’m for the death penalty will be all the terrorist pardons Precedent Ogabe will make, and you know he will make them (anything he can do to stick it to America he will do; it’s his nature). I will not be shocked to see King Putz pardon the blind sheikh (from the ’93 WTC bombing) and that poor mixed up yute, Johnny Taliban.

When it comes to terrorism, once convicted, you get 1, maybe 2, appeals. Then it’s lights out, baby. That way there’s nothing left for someone like Owebama to pardon except the corpse.

]]> By: J.J. formerly Jimmy J. https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-587846 Thu, 02 May 2013 02:49:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-587846 For my part, I wish we had prisons where the inmates might wish they had been put to death.

An example would be something like Joe Arpaio’s jails except with a lot more hard labor. It is supposed to be punishment. Instead it has become warehousing.

]]> By: n.n https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-587811 Thu, 02 May 2013 00:55:22 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-587811 Send him into the field or mine, and make him work to repay his debt to individuals, society, and humanity.

There’s an interesting juxtaposition which is worth noting. Republicans support capital punishment after due process for individuals who commit crimes against the individual, society, and humanity. Democrats support capital punishment without due process for individuals who are wholly innocent and whose only crime is that they are an inconvenient burden to their mother or father.

As for the white/black/brown divide, individuals of the latter two skin colors are more likely to support involuntary exploitation (e.g. redistributive or retributive change), denigration of individual dignity (e.g. “diversity”, Affirmative Action), and elective abortion (i.e. capital punishment without cause and without due process).

The Washington Post is a cheerleader for capital punishment without cause and without due process. They, and their readership, are sanctimonious hypocrites. Their principles are degenerate and sponsor corruption of individuals, institutions, society, and humanity.

]]> By: Mrs Whatsit https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-587740 Wed, 01 May 2013 22:03:57 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-587740 Like holmes, it’s the imperfection of our criminal justice system that keeps me from wholeheartedly supporting the death penalty. I’ve worked in the law long enough to realize just how often we get it wrong. That’s not exactly meant as an indictment of our criminal justice system, which might be the closest approach to doing justice that fallible, corruptible human beings can manage — along the same lines as that saying (by Churchill, maybe?) to the effect that democracy is the worst possible form of government, except for all the others. But I’m not comfortable with an outcome as irreversible as death for a process that so often goes so wrong.

Nevertheless, where culpability is certain and the crime is heinous, my doubts disappear. Timothy McVeigh was one such case and this, so far, is looking like another.

]]> By: holmes https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-587733 Wed, 01 May 2013 21:41:51 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-587733 I go back and forth on the death penalty. My main objection is not the barbarity of it (I’m fine with some rightly applied barbarism), but rather that the state/juries/courts get it wrong. And more often than we are comfortable admitting.

But in cases where we are 100% certain of the perpetrator, I am OK with it. So if we went beyond reasonable doubt to a sentencing phase that had 100% certainty, then we could do it.

It still present a problem for forced confessions though.

]]> By: Geoffrey Britain https://thenewneo.com/2013/05/01/the-boston-bomber-and-the-death-penalty/#comment-587718 Wed, 01 May 2013 20:51:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=27235#comment-587718 It is a confused morality that supposes that the death penalty is the imposition of a punishment. It is not, it is society’s recognition of the criminal’s choice.

The criminal, in taking another’s life has willingly forfeited their own right to life. They have ‘judged’ and, so should they be judged.

It matters not whether the criminal recognizes the consequence of their choice, only whether a society acknowledges the choice that the criminal has made.

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