Comments on: Public Enemy #2 captured

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Mon, 22 Apr 2013 03:49:20 +0000

Electing Leftists like Obama is pretty much a self-declaration of the intent to suicide on a national and historical level.

By: southpaw

southpaw — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 02:41:59 +0000

Neo says: “But how and when did they “turn”–particularly the younger brother, whom everyone seems to describe with words like “friendly,” “normal,” “American”
The more I think about this question, which will be debated from now until Christmas, the more I think it shouldn’t be a mystery – we turned them. We – that is our present culture, facilitated the “radicalization” of these two.
Consider a pair of immigrants today who are raised in a culture that routinely mocks and devalues itself. School curricula which from K to 12th grade value everything but a homogeneous culture for America, a learning environment that places blame on our country for climate change, selfishly using more than it’s fair share of resources, excessive wealth, imperialism, starting wars for oil and indiscriminant killing of women and children. That’s the short list. Popular media and entertainment ridicule conservative thought, romanticize drug use, violence, promiscuity, etc.
I’m not a Puritan by any stretch of the imagination, but for years, formal education, popular culture, and news media rejected patriotism and love of our country and celebrating our successes, in favor of almost exclusive attention to all our mistakes. In fact, the mistakes have been exaggerated and the success denigrated to the point we seem like an empty decadent people. Liberal media and liberal educations have done the job for our enemies; we have shown we hate ourselves as much as they do, and what’s more, we’ve made America bashing fashionable on campuses, in film, in popular music. How hard is it for young immigrants without parental roots here to be turned into bombers and terrorists, when we refuse to promote our country and it’s foundations as something to be proud of? Many Americans traveling abroad are ashamed to admit they are Americans because they’ve been brainwashed in their own country to believe they’re the crap of the earth. I have seen it firsthand.
What do France and England, Holland, and Denmark share in common with us? Blossoming homegrown terrorists and liberal educational and political structures that are all too eager to criticize their own traditional cultures in favor of a “world view”. The one thing they all agree on is WE suck more then they do.
My opinion is we don’t need to look much further than our own lack of courage to stand up for ourselves and for tolerating political correctness. If we’re afraid to instill a sense of pride and accomplishment in our kids about our country, and unwilling to restrain ourselves from never-ending self ridicule, what should we expect?
What will be the answer to these guys’ disgusting behavior? More self loathing, introspection and worrying about how we failed to include or recognize “their culture”. More political correctness, not less -it’s almost guaranteed. If those two brothers had been raised here to believe they were in great place, that being an American was a source of pride, they would not have felt the need to go back to their roots for that pride or sense of belonging.
End of rant.

By: southpaw

southpaw — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 01:28:37 +0000

Jim Sullivan I agree.
Those two shut down a whole city, and the spectacle of hundreds or thousands of heavily armed law enforcement people running about town in armored vehicles while citizens were confined to their homes seemed incredible when considering they were chasing around a 19 year old amateur.
In the end after all the kudos the FBI are getting from the media for solving this so fast, they were no where without an eye witness to point them out in photos. Surveillance or not, had that poor guy not survived, nothing seemed to jump out as abnormal about the two brothers. At least not in the short term.
That is another lesson the jihadists will no doubt learn – the FBI isn’t mystical- those two could have been long gone had they wanted to escape.

By: parker

parker — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:57:50 +0000

Jim Sullivan: “the thing that still leaves a bad taste in my mouth is the locking down/”shelter in place” order that shut down Boston and the surrounding areas.”

This is very disturbing. For all intents and purposes the various agencies involved enforced martial law without the mayor or the governor formally declaring marshall law. In the end it was a private citizen who actually found the second terrorist and this was apparently after her neighborhood was declared ‘safe’.

I would like to know if FBI data bases flagged Tamerlane as a possible suspect within a few hours (if not minutes) after the attack. He had to be in their system because they investigated him in the not too distant past. Overall the entire counter terrorism response does not inspire confidence.

By: sharpie

sharpie — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:38:17 +0000

We should learn from Israel:

http://anneinpt.wordpress.com/2013/04/15/yom-hazikaron-2013-israels-memorial-day/

April 15, 2013 was Yom Hazikaron, Israel’s Memorial Day for fallen soldiers and victims of terrorism.

By: Michael Adams

Michael Adams — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:13:18 +0000

The only crime defined in the Constitution is treason. Suspect #2 was a citizen, who should be tried by the Supreme Court and, if convicted, executed. The more hullabaloo about it the better, IF we follow through. It won’t happen of course. President Pusillanimous will see to that. OTOH, if the whole thing drags out for three and a half years, and we get a President of the United States, not an Occupiers of the Resolute Desk, it could come to pass. Such a course of action would anger some people, precisely because it sends a message so effectively. Martin Richard’s parents should be offered the right to pull switch on the gallows.

By: George Pal

George Pal — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:11:53 +0000

It is Islam, not just to a certain extent but the entire extent of why. How does one assimilate to a non-Islamic society with a scimitar hanging over your neck? Islam fortifies and conducts itself through mosques, Islamic centers, Islamic organizations, the WWW, and has the Left and the MSM constantly calling for native understanding of the alien. If you immigrate to Mecca you had better understand Islam. If you come to America you better understand America. If you’re a muslim, don’t bother coming.

On Terror.

Actual:
Abdulrahman al-Rashed – the general manager of Al-Arabiya television:
Headline – “The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists are Muslims!”
Story – “Our terrorist sons are an end-product of our corrupted culture.”

Virtual:
The West, i.e., LibProgSocs, pundits, luminaries, futurists, apologists:
Headline — “It’s Our Fault”
Story — Your terrorist sons are the end-product of centuries of our culture of, racism, Orientalism, colonialism – and don’t forget the Crusades.

There should be no place in this country, or anywhere in the West, for Islam, mosques, minarets, screeching muezzin, muslims, the Qur’an (except as a source of astonishment and warning), and appeasement.

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 19:04:25 +0000

Eric: even if no witnesses nearby had lived, the surveillance cameras would have ID’d them. Authorities could figure out what was ground zero for the bomb placements, and could then go back to videos and see who did it. The eyewitness descriptions probably helped, but they could have IDed them anyway, and I don’t think it would have taken that much time.

I think if the bombers underestimated something, it was the extent of surveillance (official and amateur). But they may have either wanted to be caught, or thought they would inevitably be caught and accepted it, or thought they would be able to get away in time (although they don’t seem to have tried all that hard to get away–except for the carjacking).

By: sharpie

sharpie — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 18:45:01 +0000

But here’s your gov’t catching a public enemy before he kills:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/19/8th-grader-arrested-suspended-for-nra-protect-your-right-t-shirt-with-image-of-gun/

Alternate title: The right way to terrorize

Alternate alternate title: How to raise successful kids

By: Armchair pessimist

Armchair pessimist — Sat, 20 Apr 2013 18:40:53 +0000

Two little turds with cooking pots closed down a whole city & tied up who knows how much of our counter terror resources chasing them around town. Next time will it be a lost-cost diversion to clear the way for a dirty bomb attack?