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		By: James		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/04/16/what-sense-of-safety/#comment-578307</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Surellin:
Disco! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surellin:<br />
Disco! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.</p>
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		By: Surellin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/04/16/what-sense-of-safety/#comment-577718</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surellin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[James, I too was thinking of Baader-Meinhof.  And the Provos, etc.  The Crazy Years are back, and it  will take awhile for them to wind down.  If we could survive the 70s, we can survive this.  And this time we don&#039;t have to contend with leisure suits!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, I too was thinking of Baader-Meinhof.  And the Provos, etc.  The Crazy Years are back, and it  will take awhile for them to wind down.  If we could survive the 70s, we can survive this.  And this time we don&#8217;t have to contend with leisure suits!</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/04/16/what-sense-of-safety/#comment-577448</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 05:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow . . . hadda look it up . . . Revelation 8:11!

By the way I fluffed another one:  in my initial post (12:40 am), I meant to ask,

If that is NOT jarring to our collective sense of safety, what is?

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Personal sense/experience, as RandomThoughts (1:16 am) posits?

Or perhaps an M J R sense of irrational paranoia?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow . . . hadda look it up . . . Revelation 8:11!</p>
<p>By the way I fluffed another one:  in my initial post (12:40 am), I meant to ask,</p>
<p>If that is NOT jarring to our collective sense of safety, what is?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Personal sense/experience, as RandomThoughts (1:16 am) posits?</p>
<p>Or perhaps an M J R sense of irrational paranoia?</p>
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		By: RandomThoughts		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/04/16/what-sense-of-safety/#comment-577438</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 05:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MJR, When someone names it Wormwood, then I&#039;ll worry. 

Seriously though, I think that a sense of safety is predicated on one&#039;s personal experience even more than one&#039;s gender. If you&#039;ve been in a near fatal car accident, or lost a loved one to an abrupt unexpected death, your sense of safety going to be far different than that of someone who has only observed such things from afar, so to speak. 

Yes, 9-11 affected my sense of safety somewhat, but nowhere near the way it affected those whose loved ones died, or who were at Ground Zero or the Pentagon as it happened before their very eyes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MJR, When someone names it Wormwood, then I&#8217;ll worry. </p>
<p>Seriously though, I think that a sense of safety is predicated on one&#8217;s personal experience even more than one&#8217;s gender. If you&#8217;ve been in a near fatal car accident, or lost a loved one to an abrupt unexpected death, your sense of safety going to be far different than that of someone who has only observed such things from afar, so to speak. </p>
<p>Yes, 9-11 affected my sense of safety somewhat, but nowhere near the way it affected those whose loved ones died, or who were at Ground Zero or the Pentagon as it happened before their very eyes.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/04/16/what-sense-of-safety/#comment-577425</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 04:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[. . . ermmmm, asteroid?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . . ermmmm, asteroid?</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/04/16/what-sense-of-safety/#comment-577422</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 04:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How &#039;bout that meteor that nobody had any inkling was hurtling towards earth?

If that&#039;s jarring to our collective sense of safety, what is?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How &#8217;bout that meteor that nobody had any inkling was hurtling towards earth?</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s jarring to our collective sense of safety, what is?</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/04/16/what-sense-of-safety/#comment-577354</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thoughts, some of which may conflict:

There have been Islamic terrorist incidents here since 9/11, but mostly of the thwarted variety. Their successes have mostly been elsewhere.

The Islamic terrorist network that projected force from there to here on 9/11 was broken apart.

We don&#039;t know what law enforcement, intel, clandestine, military, etc, have done to prevent more attacks since 9/11. Maybe they have been more successful that we credit them.

That said, Islamic terrorists have been attacking elsewhere continuously since (and before) 9/11.  It would seem that terrorists could attack here in the manner. 

However, Islamic terrorists are more interested in fighting for dominance in their homelands than here. The terrorist organizations that are still operational therefore have focused their resources over there rather than here.

Which leaves only the self-actualized lone wolf types, the kind who listen to Awlaki sermons every night, to try something here.

After 9/11, US targets in Iraq and to a lesser extent Afghanistan satisfied the Islamic terrorist lust for American blood.

Operation Iraqi Freedom really did decimate Islamic terrorists, but they have been revitalized in the Arab Spring.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughts, some of which may conflict:</p>
<p>There have been Islamic terrorist incidents here since 9/11, but mostly of the thwarted variety. Their successes have mostly been elsewhere.</p>
<p>The Islamic terrorist network that projected force from there to here on 9/11 was broken apart.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know what law enforcement, intel, clandestine, military, etc, have done to prevent more attacks since 9/11. Maybe they have been more successful that we credit them.</p>
<p>That said, Islamic terrorists have been attacking elsewhere continuously since (and before) 9/11.  It would seem that terrorists could attack here in the manner. </p>
<p>However, Islamic terrorists are more interested in fighting for dominance in their homelands than here. The terrorist organizations that are still operational therefore have focused their resources over there rather than here.</p>
<p>Which leaves only the self-actualized lone wolf types, the kind who listen to Awlaki sermons every night, to try something here.</p>
<p>After 9/11, US targets in Iraq and to a lesser extent Afghanistan satisfied the Islamic terrorist lust for American blood.</p>
<p>Operation Iraqi Freedom really did decimate Islamic terrorists, but they have been revitalized in the Arab Spring.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The 9/11 attacks didn&#039;t affect my sense of safety. From experience with random acts of violence, such as being a passenger in a fatal car accident when I was 6, I  long ago came to the conclusion  that the safety balloon can be punctured at any time.  I don&#039;t spend a lot of time worrying about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 9/11 attacks didn&#8217;t affect my sense of safety. From experience with random acts of violence, such as being a passenger in a fatal car accident when I was 6, I  long ago came to the conclusion  that the safety balloon can be punctured at any time.  I don&#8217;t spend a lot of time worrying about it.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/04/16/what-sense-of-safety/#comment-577342</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 00:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[artfldgr is correct that there is no &#039;safety&#039;.  You&#039;re safe until you&#039;re not safe.  However, terror attacks cause stress and anxiety for those who are not victims and provoke Western governments into wasting money and creating bureaucracies. 

&quot;Perhaps because they think we would retaliate in a fairly strong way and they don’t want to run the risk of activating that sort of response? I really am not sure, but I think it’s a choice of theirs rather than an inability.&quot;

It is a matter of choice on the part of the jihadi, but if they chose the path of subjecting us to the campaign they have waged against the Israelis our government&#039;s response would be similar to the response after Newtown: restrict the rights of law abiding citizens while doing absolutely nothing to confront the real threat.  The so-called war on terror has killed a lot of jihadi, but the leaders of jihad know they have plenty of cannon fodder and they are in it for the long haul (centuries if need be).  We&#039;re in for the next election cycle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>artfldgr is correct that there is no &#8216;safety&#8217;.  You&#8217;re safe until you&#8217;re not safe.  However, terror attacks cause stress and anxiety for those who are not victims and provoke Western governments into wasting money and creating bureaucracies. </p>
<p>&#8220;Perhaps because they think we would retaliate in a fairly strong way and they don’t want to run the risk of activating that sort of response? I really am not sure, but I think it’s a choice of theirs rather than an inability.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is a matter of choice on the part of the jihadi, but if they chose the path of subjecting us to the campaign they have waged against the Israelis our government&#8217;s response would be similar to the response after Newtown: restrict the rights of law abiding citizens while doing absolutely nothing to confront the real threat.  The so-called war on terror has killed a lot of jihadi, but the leaders of jihad know they have plenty of cannon fodder and they are in it for the long haul (centuries if need be).  We&#8217;re in for the next election cycle.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/04/16/what-sense-of-safety/#comment-577337</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 23:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One reason they haven&#039;t engaged in a lot of small scale operations could be as neo says from fear of retaliation. A retaliation of a different sort. They surely have sleeper cells here, but not as many as some believe. What they do have is a fairly large pool of students available for recruitment. They&#039;re here legally and there are enough of them to present problems tracking. A string of small operations would be relatively easy, but the risk of mass expulsion and loss of this asset would be too great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One reason they haven&#8217;t engaged in a lot of small scale operations could be as neo says from fear of retaliation. A retaliation of a different sort. They surely have sleeper cells here, but not as many as some believe. What they do have is a fairly large pool of students available for recruitment. They&#8217;re here legally and there are enough of them to present problems tracking. A string of small operations would be relatively easy, but the risk of mass expulsion and loss of this asset would be too great.</p>
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