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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/19/the-cyprus-parliament-may-show-some-common-sense/#comment-558373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Seizing assets of “the wealthy” does not solve anything at all.&quot;

Only the assets of the un-PC wealthy will be seized.  The primary goal is to seize the assets of the shrinking middle class making us dependent upon the state. Its proper name is fascism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Seizing assets of “the wealthy” does not solve anything at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Only the assets of the un-PC wealthy will be seized.  The primary goal is to seize the assets of the shrinking middle class making us dependent upon the state. Its proper name is fascism.</p>
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		By: hogwash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hogwash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, and there is no &quot;center-right
 party in France, at least not the way we think of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and there is no &#8220;center-right<br />
 party in France, at least not the way we think of it.</p>
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		By: hogwash		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/19/the-cyprus-parliament-may-show-some-common-sense/#comment-558347</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hogwash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Putting a limit on &quot;small depositors&quot; does not make it acceptable. It is still theft. It is just stealing money from savers to bankroll the EU Nomenklatura, of which the bankers are a part.

Largarde does not &quot;know anything&quot; about finance, she too is part of that Nomenklatura, and she is just looking out for her bunch. It is just her turn to be at the IMF. It is absurd to thing that any of these people know anything about &quot;business&quot; at all. Heaves, the IMF is bankrolled by the taxpayer--it is not a &quot;bank&quot;.

Seizing assets of &quot;the wealthy&quot; does not solve anything at all. It just destroys everything that Western order of the last 300-400 years is built on.

This business in Cyprus, if it goes much further, will be  a disaster for us all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting a limit on &#8220;small depositors&#8221; does not make it acceptable. It is still theft. It is just stealing money from savers to bankroll the EU Nomenklatura, of which the bankers are a part.</p>
<p>Largarde does not &#8220;know anything&#8221; about finance, she too is part of that Nomenklatura, and she is just looking out for her bunch. It is just her turn to be at the IMF. It is absurd to thing that any of these people know anything about &#8220;business&#8221; at all. Heaves, the IMF is bankrolled by the taxpayer&#8211;it is not a &#8220;bank&#8221;.</p>
<p>Seizing assets of &#8220;the wealthy&#8221; does not solve anything at all. It just destroys everything that Western order of the last 300-400 years is built on.</p>
<p>This business in Cyprus, if it goes much further, will be  a disaster for us all.</p>
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		By: LEOnides		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/19/the-cyprus-parliament-may-show-some-common-sense/#comment-558292</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LEOnides]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glenn Reynolds has a great suggestion:  A smart conservative Senator or Representative should propose legislation making it illegal for the government to tax or otherwise raid retirement savings accounts, and dare liberals to vote against it.  Now I&#039;m hearing of proposals for the government to take over &quot;management&quot; of retirement accounts, claiming as possible justification that most savers don&#039;t know how to properly manage these accounts on their own, or are susceptible to scams and fraud...  Sounds to me as if they are feeling out ways to skim such accounts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Reynolds has a great suggestion:  A smart conservative Senator or Representative should propose legislation making it illegal for the government to tax or otherwise raid retirement savings accounts, and dare liberals to vote against it.  Now I&#8217;m hearing of proposals for the government to take over &#8220;management&#8221; of retirement accounts, claiming as possible justification that most savers don&#8217;t know how to properly manage these accounts on their own, or are susceptible to scams and fraud&#8230;  Sounds to me as if they are feeling out ways to skim such accounts.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/19/the-cyprus-parliament-may-show-some-common-sense/#comment-558251</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 20:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t have to be an &#039;expert&#039; (remember Krugman is a nobel prize winning economist) to know there is a reason for banking regulations and bankruptcy laws.  The bankruptcy of corporations and big banks harms everyone, but its the only way to cut away the rot.  Feeding the rot never ends well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to be an &#8216;expert&#8217; (remember Krugman is a nobel prize winning economist) to know there is a reason for banking regulations and bankruptcy laws.  The bankruptcy of corporations and big banks harms everyone, but its the only way to cut away the rot.  Feeding the rot never ends well.</p>
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		By: southpaw		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/19/the-cyprus-parliament-may-show-some-common-sense/#comment-558222</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[southpaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ed Driscoll over at PJ Media wrote this yesterday in his Crossing the Rubicon article:
&quot;Normally when we think of a wealth tax we think of property taxes, estate taxes or car registration fees.   But there is a nice conglomeration of wealth nobody has dared to think would be taxable.     And not just taxable, but easily stolen as well.

Your retirement plans.&quot;

This theme about the US govt. raiding private retirement accounts has been coming up more regularly lately, and it&#039;s worth reading for that reason.  http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2013/03/18/the-eu-crosses-the-rubicon/2/

 There ARE american congressmen and academics who are backing this as a viable plan, and as Driscoll points out, it may be idiots we elected in Washington, who kick the can down the road until they have no other choice but to steal it. I&#039;m sure if it happens, we who are appalled by the action will be considered selfish, unpatriotic people, and those who have nothing to contribute will be virtuous; each one a victim of the savers who were hoarding money they didn&#039;t need.
 It&#039;s hard to believe this idea is even mentioned or debated in our country as a serious consideration, and yet here we are, the once free USA, wondering if you would be stupid not to prepare for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed Driscoll over at PJ Media wrote this yesterday in his Crossing the Rubicon article:<br />
&#8220;Normally when we think of a wealth tax we think of property taxes, estate taxes or car registration fees.   But there is a nice conglomeration of wealth nobody has dared to think would be taxable.     And not just taxable, but easily stolen as well.</p>
<p>Your retirement plans.&#8221;</p>
<p>This theme about the US govt. raiding private retirement accounts has been coming up more regularly lately, and it&#8217;s worth reading for that reason.  <a href="http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2013/03/18/the-eu-crosses-the-rubicon/2/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2013/03/18/the-eu-crosses-the-rubicon/2/</a></p>
<p> There ARE american congressmen and academics who are backing this as a viable plan, and as Driscoll points out, it may be idiots we elected in Washington, who kick the can down the road until they have no other choice but to steal it. I&#8217;m sure if it happens, we who are appalled by the action will be considered selfish, unpatriotic people, and those who have nothing to contribute will be virtuous; each one a victim of the savers who were hoarding money they didn&#8217;t need.<br />
 It&#8217;s hard to believe this idea is even mentioned or debated in our country as a serious consideration, and yet here we are, the once free USA, wondering if you would be stupid not to prepare for it.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is a sad and difficult thing to realize, when relatives reveal, by their own attitudes and reactions, that they welcome the nanny state&#039;s beneficent domination with the freedom from the risks inherent to self-determination that it provides. 

“If God didn&#039;t want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep.” Mexican bandit speaking of poor villagers 

People are either sheep, wolves or sheepdogs. 

Few sheep ever realize the cost of the bargain that they have made. The response of &quot;so what?&quot; and &quot;what difference does it make now?&quot; are evasions so as not to confront the truth. 

Churchill notably asked, &quot;Once in a while, we stumble upon the truth, will you face it or decide to pick yourself up and hurry along, as if nothing had happened?&quot; 

Those who refuse to face reality are its certain victims. But these are &#039;victims&#039; who &lt;i&gt;choose&lt;/i&gt; their victimhood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a sad and difficult thing to realize, when relatives reveal, by their own attitudes and reactions, that they welcome the nanny state&#8217;s beneficent domination with the freedom from the risks inherent to self-determination that it provides. </p>
<p>“If God didn&#8217;t want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep.” Mexican bandit speaking of poor villagers </p>
<p>People are either sheep, wolves or sheepdogs. </p>
<p>Few sheep ever realize the cost of the bargain that they have made. The response of &#8220;so what?&#8221; and &#8220;what difference does it make now?&#8221; are evasions so as not to confront the truth. </p>
<p>Churchill notably asked, &#8220;Once in a while, we stumble upon the truth, will you face it or decide to pick yourself up and hurry along, as if nothing had happened?&#8221; </p>
<p>Those who refuse to face reality are its certain victims. But these are &#8216;victims&#8217; who <i>choose</i> their victimhood.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nothing new here. If I recall correctly the British government raided the private pension funds in the UK about a decade ago. As Willey Sutton said about robbing banks, that&#039;s where the money is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing new here. If I recall correctly the British government raided the private pension funds in the UK about a decade ago. As Willey Sutton said about robbing banks, that&#8217;s where the money is.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We, at least some of us, can see into the future, the &quot;what ifs&quot;, increment by increment, and it is ugly.

I alerted my brother, who is a liberal nihilist, about the Cyprus business, and he was a big, &quot;So what&quot;? Suggested the alternative was for Cyprus to simply nationalize the banks, that way all Cypriots could share.

I knew when I alerted him it was futile. But I keep trying. He must care for something more than the legalization of marijuana.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We, at least some of us, can see into the future, the &#8220;what ifs&#8221;, increment by increment, and it is ugly.</p>
<p>I alerted my brother, who is a liberal nihilist, about the Cyprus business, and he was a big, &#8220;So what&#8221;? Suggested the alternative was for Cyprus to simply nationalize the banks, that way all Cypriots could share.</p>
<p>I knew when I alerted him it was futile. But I keep trying. He must care for something more than the legalization of marijuana.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/19/the-cyprus-parliament-may-show-some-common-sense/#comment-558154</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2013 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The E.U. unelected bureaucratic leadership has no choice but to go after assets. Cyprus is a trial run by EU regulators. They are looking for the current combination of taxation and seized assets necessary to keep kicking the economic can down the road.

Socialists don&#039;t admit to the possibility that they could &quot;run out of other people&#039;s money&quot; because their premise of the primacy of &#039;fairness&#039; necessitates incrementally categorizing that everything ultimately belongs to the state. 

Socialism&#039;s base premise of fairness (selectively applied) is the liberal justification for the end justifying the means and since socialism ignores economic reality it must, over time eat its own society&#039;s &#039;seed corn&#039; and inevitably result in an entrenched elite ruling over a regulated population.

The question; &lt;i&gt;&quot;How is the Federal Government supposed to unwind its ownership in the growing number of companies it has nationalized&quot;&lt;/i&gt; presupposes that the Obama administration &lt;i&gt;wants&lt;/i&gt; to &quot;unwind its ownership&quot; and that it has the intention to do so. It presupposes that the nationalization of American companies isn&#039;t a goal in and of itself as part of a larger agenda of &quot;fundamentally transforming&quot; America.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The E.U. unelected bureaucratic leadership has no choice but to go after assets. Cyprus is a trial run by EU regulators. They are looking for the current combination of taxation and seized assets necessary to keep kicking the economic can down the road.</p>
<p>Socialists don&#8217;t admit to the possibility that they could &#8220;run out of other people&#8217;s money&#8221; because their premise of the primacy of &#8216;fairness&#8217; necessitates incrementally categorizing that everything ultimately belongs to the state. </p>
<p>Socialism&#8217;s base premise of fairness (selectively applied) is the liberal justification for the end justifying the means and since socialism ignores economic reality it must, over time eat its own society&#8217;s &#8216;seed corn&#8217; and inevitably result in an entrenched elite ruling over a regulated population.</p>
<p>The question; <i>&#8220;How is the Federal Government supposed to unwind its ownership in the growing number of companies it has nationalized&#8221;</i> presupposes that the Obama administration <i>wants</i> to &#8220;unwind its ownership&#8221; and that it has the intention to do so. It presupposes that the nationalization of American companies isn&#8217;t a goal in and of itself as part of a larger agenda of &#8220;fundamentally transforming&#8221; America.</p>
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