I still smoke, but I respect anti-smoking regulations. I do think that banning cigarettes outside is over the top. And I don’t throw cigarette butts on the ground, nor do I throw used plastic bags in the ocean.

As someone who is asthmatic – YES, second-hand smoke is a problem. It is MY problem and smokers have no right to make their addiction cause my problem to be worse. I don’t need a study to detemine this. My lack of breathing around smoke tells me all I need to know.

Concerning Neo’s post. From what I can tell it isn’t that the judge was against Nanny Bloomberg; it was because it was too arbitrary. One store can still sell the “bad for you stuff” while a store next door could not. That was the reason the judge ruled against this. But, manybe I misreading the other reports on this as well.

I am among them. I hate cigarette smoke. But I do think the smoking ban should be up to the restaurant owner, although I personally benefit from a blanket ban.

As far as the health consequences go, I also agree that for things like asthma and allergies and just general noxiousness, the negatives of second-hand smoke are very clear. But the campaign against it was also based on supposedly strong evidence of very serious health problems like cancer and cardiac disease, and that turns out to have been somewhat more iffy and controversial. That’s what I was referring to.

actually, you did get it wrong.

But that’s alright.

I was merely talking about the arguments used by those advocating the public smoking ban, and comparing it to the arguments used by those advocating the large drink ban, and saying even on that level there’s no comparison.

I well understand that there are motives behind the motives, and arguments behind the arguments, and agendas behind the agendas, and that it’s all part of a larger picture.

Still, I don’t advocate a statist solution. I just avoid smokers.

that was the heading…

and of course… we forget romania, japan, mao, korea, and on and on

ALL of them had mass exercise programs that people like bloomberg see and say… oh, how my orgasms would be so wonderful if i had millions exercising every morning against their will and i forced them.

if you search youtube, you will find they scrubbed most of the examples of soviet communist mass exericise. but if you see google images, you can see what you tube doesnt want you to see…

and you can see that the more google helps, the more its like some wacko who brings you waht you dont want.

hi, i would like some ham and cheeze on white
here is your pizza
but i asked for ham and cheese on white
here is your article on white privelege
etc

so if you search for pyongyang exercise, you get the armstice… because they dont think you really want to know about exercise, but asked for exercise so you can find out about the coming nuclear war.

(which by the way, we are unprepared for. as they prepare for a missle norks dont have, and do not prevent them from shipping to south america, and bringing it through one of the open border tunnesl that ship tonnes of cocain, meth, and other things. duh. not to mention a fishing trawler can send it up in a weather balloon.. and it would float over the US like the japanese firebombs launched from japan. they didnt set the forests on fire, but they did kill a family at a picnic… anucler version of this would do a lot more… and no way to stop it.. shoot it down, it goes off… )

i would suggest reading about what theya re copying.

then you will know what they are doing
they are not original thinkers, they are incremental thinkers who copy an copy and copy.

so its easy to see that they are, or have learned from, the soviets in the illusions of ruling vs good governance.

one only has to actually read the history of the fertility problem, to see how their methods, exactly the same as now, creates situations that new similar methods could not undo…

one only has to look to them to see them making all the stuff the left thinks they support and were about, illegal in their own country!!!!!!!!!!

why would they let the disease they planted come full around and infect them?