Licensing is often abused by special interests, of which the AMA is a powerful one, to exclude competition. Licensing for MD’s seems reasonable enough, but they use this to limit people like Nurse Practitioners from “practicing medicine” by which they mean, “competing with us.” It’s just another rent-seeking behavior in general and it is a practice that originated under Divine Right rule.

Another factor is failing to learn about and understand the basis of our republic, the Constitution and the Founders’ thinking about government.

ALERT-Potential License Denial or Suspension for Failure to Pay Taxes

Effective July 1, 2012, the Department of Consumer Affairs and its constituent entities are required to deny an application for licensure and to suspend the license/certificate/registration of any applicant or licensee who has outstanding tax obligations due to the Franchise Tax Board (FTB) or the State Board of Equalization (BOE) and appears on either the FTB or BOE’s certified lists of top 500 tax delinquencies over $100,000. (AB 1424, Perea, Chapter 455, Statutes of 2011)

Once it has been determined that an applicant or a licensee is on a certified list, the applicant or licensee has 90 days from the issuance of a preliminary notice of suspension to either satisfy all outstanding tax obligations or enter into a payment installment program with the FTB or BOE. Any such person who fails to come into compliance will have his/her license denied or suspended until the Board, Bureau, Commission or Committee they have applied to receives a release from the FTB or BOE. The form for requesting a release will be included with the preliminary notice of suspension.

The law prohibits any of DCA’s Boards, Bureaus, Commission or Committees from refunding any money paid for the issuance or renewal of a license where the license is denied or suspended as required by AB 1424.

“…But the statists and collectivists want to herd everyone into cities where we can be controlled and monitored. They want to bulldoze the suburbs, and turn rural areas into nature parks where only the elites will be allowed. (Similar to the hunting preserves in the Middle Ages, which were only accessible to the nobility.)”

A generation or more of liberal rule of my home state of Maine has made serious progress towards these goals. The southern most counties have increased their population – partly at the expense of the north and partly as a result of an influx of liberal expatriots from Massachusetts and New York, who have made their money and who’s only interest is in preserving the status quo of Maine as a playground for the well-to-do. Business is discouraged and every attempt at development is fiercely resisted.

Meanwhile, the northern and eastern counties are de-populating at an alarming rate due to the lack of work. If left unchecked, in another generation the northern half of the state will be nothing more than one massive wilderness park.

“The only thing the law stops us from is being deceived by a quack holding him/herself out to have training he/she doesn’t have, hanging out a shingle fraudulently claiming he/she is an MD or telling that to a clinic in order to be hired (see a this typical example of the way the law against practicing medicine without a license reads). “

This category distinction is an important one, and its obscuration is very common in modern liberal argumentation. (Maybe it’s the result of their often monistic and non-causal thinking patterns spilling over into everyday matters. Or maybe not.)

One saw for example, and continues to see, a parallel conceptual confusion to the one you mention, at work in the debates over the right to keep and bear arms.

“You have to license (or register) a car, why not a gun?”

“You have to insure a car, why not a gun?” (You don’t of course have to insure a car as property absent a lien holder or its use on a public road)

“Mere hairdressers have to be licensed, why not gun owners?” (Your professional service offered for a fee, distinction)

or on another topic …

“You have to pay taxes for water which is essential to your life, why not health care?” (Public utility water service being to a house, and paid for by user fees, and infrastructure bonds, and can be shut off for nonpayment; while 40 percent of households use their own wells.)

or

“You are taxed for an army to protect you, why not for universal health care?” (distributive problem)

And so on.

In each instance there is a conceptual error or factual discrepancy as to basis or application, which it takes a great deal of illustrative argument to get a liberal to even recognize much less admit. The end result? Usually a shrug and after a short pause the emission of similar falsely predicated and specious analogies.

I earlier said that these distinctions may not be recognized because of certain ideological or metaphysical predicates which the average liberal embraces.

It could of course be no more than that these distinctions have no emotional resonance with them. And that they are emotionally attracted and committed to a non-individualist, collectivist, and therapeutic vision of human life. In that case nothing matters, certainly no distinctions tracing agency or responsibility, apart from the conviction that something must be done in the way of transferring life energy and product from those who have “sufficient” to those who are through “no fault of their own” are experiencing an emotionally debilitating and humiliating inequality.

This is a pretty good summary of the UN’s Agenda 21. The vehicle for convincing people to go along with this is climate change and the esoteric concept of “sustainability.” Whenever you hear the word sustainability you are being conditioned for Agenda 21.

Read about it here: http://www.newswithviews.com/Morrison/joyce36.htm

dealing with most people is exhausting as i have to think of all this and more AND be wonderful too… when most dont have to think of all this and can just BE.

Also, getting absorbed into ones own head-space every other moment can make it extremely difficult to “learn things on the trot” which is the way most non-autistic people are used to doing it.

right… if i fold into myself to engage the most power, the other people dont like it. they want me to have a radar up and ready to respond to them. but i often cant switch gears that fast when i go that deep into something. the nice thing is i can be in a hurricane and not notice it… only repetitive sharp sounds will confound me. but the benefit if not disturbed is that i can work problems real deep. i can do it on the fly as well. it makes me VERY unpopular with coworkers when i moved from fortune 10… in fortune 10 the managers LOVED that i could tell the outcome of a point way way down the line

as always… its like George harrison said
its all up to what you value

It might be difficult to join in a conversation if you don’t have the general knowledge which is needed.

The problem with this kind of knowledge is that there is no one source from which you can find it out but here are some tips:

General knowledge in conversations is usually about sport (in the UK usually football), pop-music, films, politics, the media, TV, peoples computers, clothes, hobbies and going out. It is, however, rare to find someone who is an expert on all of these things.

Many teenagers and young adults who are into music put more emphasis on the pop-stars than they do on the music they write. Sometimes they even select their partners on the basis of who they look like in the world of music or sport. Sometimes with this type of person, you just have to accept that you may not be compatible and look for friends elsewhere.

With reference to this last statement, sport (e.g. football) can also be quite selective. Sport is often a highly patriotic occupation in that people are friendly to each other if they support the same team but argue with and confront all those who support different teams.

TV, radio, magazines, libraries, video libraries and newspapers can help you learn about these topics. Also, many leaflets which can be found in magazines give you a list of all the most popular albums, CDs and films. To force yourself to learn about things which don’t interest you, however, may be a waste of time since you won’t really want to join in with the conversations about them.

since there are a billion people on the planet and i may meet anyone. i have spent my life reading about everything i can just so i can be with some nice people.

this is why i know about so much… so i can be with epeople no matter where i am on the globe. i can speak chinese politics, and history with the chinese… indonesian history with them American history… try me on math, chemistry, genetics, physics, mechanics, electronics, and more… how about cooking? some people love cooking, so i have to learn that.

oh. and i found out if you learn about weird stuff, the people who like that will really like you as they have no one to talk to about it. (but your stuff is verboten, there is never time for you. less than human)

computers, nuclear physics, artififical intelligence, and so on. its why they want me to do work.

the phds worked and called to make sure i was not laid off with everyone else, as they use me as a reference. you just ask me, and i spit out the references and such by memory. almost regardless of what it is. space program? no problem? history of the church and calendar changes? easy.

at the end of the day… it was a mistake
people like idiots much better than they tolerate someone who studied so hard to be useful to someone so that they can participate in life.

If you decide to teach yourself the general knowledge you need in certain conversations, it is important that you also try to learn by listening to the conversations themselves, paying special attention to famous people when they are mentioned. This can make the learning process much faster.

hard to listen to conversations when your put into a small space and you spend all your days with no humans or anyone to talk to. a blank wall in front, 150 watt bulb in the center. and people lauching at you while taking pictures of your office with you in it for facebook.. while asking you what crime you committed to be there…

so there is nothing to do but kill time till time kills me.
as i am learning that people dont want to know what i know and i should have not bothered. my bad. maybe next life will be better, eh? 🙂

anyway, there is more… there is ALWAYS more..

licensing was NEVER about protecting the citizenry
it never protects them… so your point as to it being a little bit about that is completely wrong, its never ever ever about that. thats the SELLING point the idea for public consumption, the spoon ful of sugar that helps the sh*t go down.

the public in general does NOT know the whole of the things you bring up.
and if you stop short, there is absolutely NO WAY for me to know that you stopped because you knew, and it was an editorial choice, or you stopped because you actuall dont know.

if you can be so kind as to inform me of what clue to pay attention to so i can know what the source of the ommission is, i would be forever grateful as i am used to the people who have something more to say, hat tipping towards more before they stop.

the gease is on me to know something i cant know because you and others are not revealing it to me… did they stop because they thought that was enough? did they assume everyone else knew? do they know themselves? what clue from the absense of information can i create to know what i need to know to chosoe whether to tell the information or not?

i guess the safe thing is to accept that people are liberal trained and self esteem trained and so they cant take that strangers cant look into their head and know what they know, and what they dont know, and then analyse it so that they can speak without insulting them!!!!!!!!!!!

as i say to my wife when she does this. do me a favor, please publish a book of what you know and dont know, that way i can reference it and not insult you for not having that book since we are now neo modern trained and cant hack others not knowing us by assumptions that are only correct.

hows that for the source of a problem?
do i go left? do i go right? what sign did you give for me to know?

of course, what i am doing is from the “art of conversation” where you ignore your desire for conversation (ie. what my subjects are i never get to talk about, so all i can do is work off of others subjects. they wont give me that same gift so what interests me is not allowed with most people as this is their attitude, and as i have heard “they have enough friends”)

i do the conversation art better in person as i can see your face and have learned over the years some of the signals that would have me change direction. you also could say, ah yes, and didnt X do that, which would clue me in. but this is exposition, one step at a time, and if you dont signal in your writing, then i have no way to know.

and i always default to more information… and that the order youg et information is important… telling someone smoking is not allowed is not as good as telling the room is full of gas… is it? they may decide to ignore you on your fanatical anti smoking bs, and blow everyone up. and certainly not giving information is not good. as lie by omission is the lefts favorite tools as most are trained to respond by filling in the blank till they are so used to doing it they have no way of saying “i9 dont know”

Come to an occasion armed with topics at the ready
Tailor the conversation to the listener.
Don’t talk to only one person when conversing in a group
Build off the others selection of conversation

Asperger’s survival guide: conversation
http://www.autismsupportnetwork.com/news/aspergers-survival-guide-conversation-223221

It may be known to you that the art of conversation is carried out within a set of constraining rules.

and when people are ignorant of those rules, or the script, then sociopaths have free reign, and people like me are floundering… (then the social milieu punishes the person because thats how it teaches. woe be the man or woman who cant pick up on it, as they are doomed to forever misery at the hands of people who would otherwise think they are harmless and wonderfully nice)

When people take part in a conversation, what they say normally has to follow on from the last thing that was said. We stick to the relevant so that the conversation flows smoothly.

ah, so the key to my being part of a conversation is knowing enough to be able to talk to people when they have a desire to hear themselves, adn to be able to add interesting things to the conversation. (the closer you get to pulling this off, the more normal you appear, but the closer you get the more serious and nasty the punishments are for not quite getting it. so its easier to not try, than to keep working against a wall that gets harder the more you get closer)

Be careful of stating the obvious. You may also wish to avoid asking questions when you can work out the answer for yourself. This way, the conversation covers more useful ground.

Conversation is a tool, and not a very good one. but i am nothing if i am not useful!!!
that is my only reason to be… as no one values me for me, nor have they ever. they valued me all my life for what i could answer, what i could make, what i could give them, what i could help with, what i could do for them, etc… me? never for me… they have no time, nor do they feel the need to reciprocate with lessers… ONLY in the realm of knowing and doing am i more than most people, otherwise, i am not even human. and to consider it otherwise is more painful than accepting the box that they are going to force you into or kill you trying… (not fast, but slowly, by taking away your health and life till its just empty)

Try to avoid repeating yourself or rephrasing yourself when you have already been understood. This may be rather difficult because repetition of thought is quite fundamental to autism. However, I take the approach of always looking for new things to think about. This seems to have been quite a successful move.

funny how there is this common list for people… just think of how much extra work i have to do just to say hello… just think of how destroyed i am that after 50 years, your post means i havse not even got the basics yet. and everything you can do or get in life depends on it if your outside academia… and i am not inside it. so those special skills are just wasted… not appreciated… and my life is just a litany of you didnt get it right, here is your punishment, etc. by now its no longer advice, its just the same old same old from a new set of ignorant people too concerned with how they feel and how you should cater to them, while not willing to do much the same (neo excluded from this point as she has been giving me the opportunity to fail and learn from it. something that most everyone gets over when they are 7 – and so have no patience for when your 49.)

Also, some people reply to things you say before even giving you a chance to finish your sentence. However, if they have anticipated you correctly then their is usually no need for you to finish

yeah, this is a bad one… the compulsion to finish the thought is strong… to not leave uncompleted loose ends… its impossible for me to see the boundaries that divide the world arbitrarily into pieces.. i dont do that. i actually see and take in all the connections at once and remember all the facts at once… i can usually hold as many as 50 math terms in my head and tick off adding and subtracting and running code on it… so i can generally find an answer with no lagging forgotten point that negates it. when i worked for fortune 10, they lauded that ability, and doubled my salary in under two years. but when people dont know how to use a tool, te tool suffers. not the person abusing it. us a screwdriver as a chisel and see who pays.

another aspect of this is that if someone interrupts, it may be necessary to go back to the first step to start over again. if they are not smart enough to shut up, they will end up arguing over my starting over again, rather than just be patient. in fact, i noticed that people will waste more time in complaining and trying to change things around them, than just glossing over it as they used to int he past, and as asians do so you dont lose face

If you say something that doesn’t make sense to the people around you, they might get annoyed but will probably forgive you. After all, everyone does this sometimes. Just don’t do this too often.

HA! that is not my experience, but i can see telling someone that will help them get out there and grow a thicker skin… but no… they will not do that… they will punish you for the annoyance… it will stick with them. they will carry the misery with them, polish and hold it, and then act on it for a long time… note how the explanation doesnt tell you HOW to not do this too often!!!!!!!!! because the ability to know what they know or dont is not on my side of the fence!! only THEY can excuse me… and they are too offended to do that, and its too much fun to have an excuse to lash out in our frustrated society. (Again, neo is not the point of all this, this is general, and i have been here so long because neo tries not to, and i try not to and i learn from this. i dont learn from the nasties as their advice dont work, and its more about making them happy, not actually about helping you. dont believe me? try their advice!)

If there is something you need to say which is not relevant but is important, for example “Bob phoned for you today” or “there’s something I’d like to talk to you about which is worrying me”, it is best to find the suitable person when they’re not having a conversation. Try to find the right moment, get your timing right. If you need to pass on a phone call and think that you might forget if you are kept waiting too long, just write it down and leave it by the phone.

can you imagine having to live like that? i just dont bother… i try from time to time.
but i know that people who are less than human never get to pick the topic. do they?
they can try, but the others will get angry… so if they cant put up with others anger, they will be cut out of life.

ergo i have learned to have a thick skin, as the alternative is to die lonely just sitting around… seeing amazing things and so on. my world is humongously rich!!!! if i could show you people my art work, my science, my tools, my output, its prodigious and never stops, and always blows peoples minds. (they dont put bread in my jar “and say man what are you doing here – to which i explain that to talk well and not do, is better than to do well and not talk)

If what you need to tell them is vitally important, for example “Bob has just had a nasty knock on the head and is lying unconscious”, then you MUST interrupt their conversation.

i am not that bad and i have gotten over a whole lot of things…
but i pay a serious price for it, as the mistiming is not allowed despite the circumstance.
ie. circumstances only help murderers go home, not people with good intentions

To join in a conversation, you need to listen to it. Listening can be extremely difficult, especially if you have to keep your ears open 24 hours a day, but you can get better with practice. The most important thing to listen to is the plot of the conversation.

i do poor on this… no way to practice it. and i accept that after half a century, i probably never will. it has to do with the boundaries thing. to get the plot the plot has to be isolated from everything else, and reality just isnt like that, everything is connected to everything else, and there is no actual thing as isolation… oh, you can be away from X, but you can not be isolated from reality… there is no container that is permanent.

Be on the look out for eye contact from other people as it can often mean they would like to hear your point of view

this is bad… i have not been allowed to have any raises in years becuase i dont know how to do this right. i either look through you, or i avoid looking at you. being taller, i avoid looking because wacko feminist women think your looking at their breasts, not that you cant stand their gaze because you cant read it. so it always looks angry and wrong, and you dont know… the wrong thing can screw up what you say, so its better to not look and be neutral than look and have the misreading insert stuff into how you speak.

It is easier to listen if you don’t make any assumptions or pre-conceived ideas about what someone is going to say.

thats nice for a normal person to say, but a normal person doesnt have to script it all and think ahead, and do a whole lot consciously!!! their brains are doing that in the background! so when the pause happens they have something to say that is fluid and automatic… but for me, its like being a script writer for a play, and your life depends on whether you can compose like mamet or the high school recital. again, the closer you get the bigger the punishment

by now you may notice that i am following books on how to talk, as i dont know. i am always isolated from people so i dont get much practice, and they are nasty if i get it wrong. funny is that i can get along with street people, common poor people, and so on. u dont get along so well with the middle class i know everything liberal youths. their comprehension is very poor, and their belief is that its really great, and that your difference is your way of annoying them, so it requires an extra helping of punitive action!!!! whee!!! don’t ya just love people?

Voltaire: People are hell!!!

so a shout out to Vanderluen… would you like to be me to have the knowledge i have? or would you prefer to be you, and have a happier life and not know, and be free to harass people whoa re not like you? see how wonderful it is?

Some topics of conversation are taboo subjects and if you are in doubt, they are sometimes better left alone.

i can literally talk about anything, all facts are equal. what bothers people does not bother me at all. i do not get emotional over facts… this is why aspergers were once thought to be equal to the moral imbeciles (sociopaths), but it was discovered that while they can be dispassionate about facts, they are not without feelings or all of that. they love people, but people hate them – despite their not having nice lives and success, and so on.
while this is crippling socially, to do things this is a huge benefit, as my starting point is like ayn rands ideal of not skewing… i have no bias… becasue i cant look at things that way. to me, the answer has to be right, nto be what i want. those are two different things, and i cant live if i dont get it right. its more important to me for survival than feeling good. lets just say that being accurate gives you more chance at a life that may make you feel good, so thats what i do. this OFTEN puts my ideas adn opinions at odds with the current female orthodoxy as the feelings are more important than facts.

this is a major source of problems as we are so blunt as to be shocking to people.
others will EXPRESS more sympathy, but we will express more correct answers.
so if someone does something stupid that gets them hurt, we ask them why they were so stupid, not console them with the fact everyone stupid. the latter is better.

[by the way, would you believe that autism researchers dont give a hoot as to what peoplel like me have learned to cope with without them? they are only focused on children and have pretty much given up on adults, other than lipservice]

When a conversation becomes emotional, people often say things like “cheer up”, “it’ll be all right”, “oh that’s wonderful!” or “well done!”. When you try to say these things, they might sound rather corny and sentimental at first, but they serve the same purpose as remembering to buy someone a birthday card. They serve to open up the conversation and invite the other person to express how they feel.

this is the last post on this post, because the list of things i have to remember and such is so long, it actually continues, and since i am pouring out how i feel, i dont want it to gbe cut in half cause i think too much.

kind of speaks to the last post… cheer up is meaningless to me as i have to h ave a reason, i dont get to press an imaginary button to make me happy. so how people treat men and the conditions i am in impose on me the proper feeling and i have no defense to think happy thoughts. if you treat me like a dog, i have to be a dog, or else i fight to be treated right. and if i fight, i lose everything. so i am forced to accept what others cant, as my lack of expression also means i cant argue in my favor in a way that means something to others. nor can i get people to work with me, despite they are willing to pay me as much as $400 an hour for what i can do when things are good… (they are very bad now, i am in a room smaller than a bathroom stall, hot, and isolated now for more than two years… so its breaking down all the effort and learning and ability i developed over the years interacting with people.. you lose that when sentenced to isolation. but i am not even human in a liberal world)

end part 1

[ps. if we talked about stuff that was more personal, i could talk more personal, but we discuss things in whivh the facts are most important. otherwise we are wasting our times. and our lives are way too short to waste. maybe you the reader dont value yourself that much, but i certainly do… ]

So the question I have is how do we get sound information to the public (which will most often be, we don’t really know enough to say what this means) without violating autonomy. I think this is a problem that could make the vaccine debate look miniscule.

Well said SteveH.