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		By: The great dividing line: love of liberty		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] You may recall Sarah Conly, author of Against Autonomy, an excellent demonstration of the statist impulse and the supposedly do-good one combining to create a vile synergy. And who better to explain it all than Ms. Conly herself: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] You may recall Sarah Conly, author of Against Autonomy, an excellent demonstration of the statist impulse and the supposedly do-good one combining to create a vile synergy. And who better to explain it all than Ms. Conly herself: [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: liberty &#124; liberals &#124; progressives &#124; control		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/06/against-autonomy-revisited/#comment-728428</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] You may recall Sarah Conly, author of Against Autonomy, an excellent demonstration of the statist impulse and the supposedly do-good one combining to create a vile synergy. And who better to explain it all than Ms. Conly herself: [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: M of Hollywood		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/06/against-autonomy-revisited/#comment-546465</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 16:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kolnai:  thank you.  Duly noted on my list.
I tried to read &quot;Christ and Nothing&quot; yesterday and found my brain breathing in and out and in and out.  It was like revisiting my whole intellectual life in a flash:  when young you try to take it all in and put little bits on this or that &quot;shelf&quot;, since you experience so much emptiness and have such a desire to fill it.  Then at a certain point in life you try to flush it all out when you encounter the wisdom of &quot;empty mind&quot;.  The desire for understanding is overtaken with the desire for right doing, (or is it right not-doing):  Being.  I began to get seasick and stopped the ship.  But I kept the link open in hopes there will soon come a moment when I find the patience to gulp it in whole and find a place for it. I think I fear the encounter with a bunch of Jesuits who clamor to be right.  
Your comment  that significant verbs (or were they nouns) would be preceded by parentheticals as a mark of the excellence of thinking struck me.  Each of the many comments after Feser&#039;s last entry on Hart is a significant set of parentheses–and how they on out, parentheses upon parentheses.  It is marvelous to see people still so valiant–trying to understand in such a way as to honor the possibility of understanding.  I shall breath and get to “Christ and Nothing” soon.   I am excited to learn that Feser lives in town.  I shall contact him to have coffee, and I know to do so I need to digest “Christ and Nothing” and then his last post and its parentheses.   Since I hold a position similar to his, he will probably deign to meet me once I assure him the date will not be romantic or competitive.  For me, he would be a raft in Los Angeles . . . We’ll see how he reacts to a coffee meet.
I am 100+ pages in to Adler&#039;s &quot;How to Read a Book&quot;, and that comes first.  I just finished Crichton&#039;s &quot;Travels&quot; - and that was so easy, like ice cream.  Who doesn’t like ghosts and auras?  Alas, I still have the last 300 pages waiting for me of the 1000 page &quot;The Last Lion&quot; -- all about the war waiting for us if we keep avoiding the parentheses before the verbs in our thinking.  
I encourage you to write the piece that has been incubating in your brain.  How I would love to be one of your readers.  History, logic, doing, not-doing, reading, writing:  So much remains to be done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kolnai:  thank you.  Duly noted on my list.<br />
I tried to read &#8220;Christ and Nothing&#8221; yesterday and found my brain breathing in and out and in and out.  It was like revisiting my whole intellectual life in a flash:  when young you try to take it all in and put little bits on this or that &#8220;shelf&#8221;, since you experience so much emptiness and have such a desire to fill it.  Then at a certain point in life you try to flush it all out when you encounter the wisdom of &#8220;empty mind&#8221;.  The desire for understanding is overtaken with the desire for right doing, (or is it right not-doing):  Being.  I began to get seasick and stopped the ship.  But I kept the link open in hopes there will soon come a moment when I find the patience to gulp it in whole and find a place for it. I think I fear the encounter with a bunch of Jesuits who clamor to be right.<br />
Your comment  that significant verbs (or were they nouns) would be preceded by parentheticals as a mark of the excellence of thinking struck me.  Each of the many comments after Feser&#8217;s last entry on Hart is a significant set of parentheses–and how they on out, parentheses upon parentheses.  It is marvelous to see people still so valiant–trying to understand in such a way as to honor the possibility of understanding.  I shall breath and get to “Christ and Nothing” soon.   I am excited to learn that Feser lives in town.  I shall contact him to have coffee, and I know to do so I need to digest “Christ and Nothing” and then his last post and its parentheses.   Since I hold a position similar to his, he will probably deign to meet me once I assure him the date will not be romantic or competitive.  For me, he would be a raft in Los Angeles . . . We’ll see how he reacts to a coffee meet.<br />
I am 100+ pages in to Adler&#8217;s &#8220;How to Read a Book&#8221;, and that comes first.  I just finished Crichton&#8217;s &#8220;Travels&#8221; &#8211; and that was so easy, like ice cream.  Who doesn’t like ghosts and auras?  Alas, I still have the last 300 pages waiting for me of the 1000 page &#8220;The Last Lion&#8221; &#8212; all about the war waiting for us if we keep avoiding the parentheses before the verbs in our thinking.<br />
I encourage you to write the piece that has been incubating in your brain.  How I would love to be one of your readers.  History, logic, doing, not-doing, reading, writing:  So much remains to be done.</p>
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		By: Tom Murin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/06/against-autonomy-revisited/#comment-546347</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 12:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It took me a few days to get up the courage to watch this. It wasn&#039;t as bad as I expected based on the comments, but the thought of sitting in a lecture hall with her is not a good one. 

Sounds like she has a direct line to Bloomberg. 

We just have to stop people from making bad decisions. Sounds like a good idea - who could be against this? Well, the devil is in the details, of course....Think about it - you shouldn&#039;t start a business Mr. Gates, Mr. Ford, Mr. Edison, Mr Kroc - because we all know that businesses are more likely to fail. If you go bankrupt it will cost society. The village might suffer.....You don&#039;t need a house that big; you don&#039;t need to have anymore children: you don&#039;t need an SUV or pick-up. This is where we are heading as a society.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me a few days to get up the courage to watch this. It wasn&#8217;t as bad as I expected based on the comments, but the thought of sitting in a lecture hall with her is not a good one. </p>
<p>Sounds like she has a direct line to Bloomberg. </p>
<p>We just have to stop people from making bad decisions. Sounds like a good idea &#8211; who could be against this? Well, the devil is in the details, of course&#8230;.Think about it &#8211; you shouldn&#8217;t start a business Mr. Gates, Mr. Ford, Mr. Edison, Mr Kroc &#8211; because we all know that businesses are more likely to fail. If you go bankrupt it will cost society. The village might suffer&#8230;..You don&#8217;t need a house that big; you don&#8217;t need to have anymore children: you don&#8217;t need an SUV or pick-up. This is where we are heading as a society.</p>
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		By: kolnai		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 20:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[M -

Just a few slight amendments, to prevent confusion:

&quot;Religion within the bounds...&quot;  is by Kant.

&quot;First Things&quot; is actually the magazine in which Hart&#039;s essay was published (though there is a good book by Hadley Arkes of the same name).  &quot;Christ and Nothing&quot; can be found in toto on the web, I believe (just fyi).  

The key work by Belloc is &quot;The Servile State,&quot; which comes nice and cheap in a Liberty Fund edition.  

Chesterton - take your pick (my favorite is Orthodoxy); 

Lewis - take your pick (my fave is The Abolition of Man and his essay against pacifism);

Jouvenel - &quot;On Power&quot; is essential, as is its sequel &quot;Sovereignty.&quot;  These may very well be the finest works of political philosophy in the second half of the 20th Century - and no one&#039;s ever heard of them.

Kolnai - &quot;The Utopian Mind&quot; is his defining work, but &quot;Privilege and Liberty&quot; will do just as well (it&#039;s probably a hell of a lot cheaper on Amazon).

I will add one further great thinker I did not mention, but whose contributions to developing these themes has yet to be fully appreciated: Michael Polanyi (his easiest work is The Logic of Liberty, again thankfully available in a cheap Liberty Fund edition).  I&#039;ve long harbored the dream of writing a microcosmic history of the Cold War, or of the struggle between liberty and totalitarianism in general, through the biographies of Michael (liberty) and his brother Karl (communism).  A better writer than me could make a glorious book out of that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M &#8211;</p>
<p>Just a few slight amendments, to prevent confusion:</p>
<p>&#8220;Religion within the bounds&#8230;&#8221;  is by Kant.</p>
<p>&#8220;First Things&#8221; is actually the magazine in which Hart&#8217;s essay was published (though there is a good book by Hadley Arkes of the same name).  &#8220;Christ and Nothing&#8221; can be found in toto on the web, I believe (just fyi).  </p>
<p>The key work by Belloc is &#8220;The Servile State,&#8221; which comes nice and cheap in a Liberty Fund edition.  </p>
<p>Chesterton &#8211; take your pick (my favorite is Orthodoxy); </p>
<p>Lewis &#8211; take your pick (my fave is The Abolition of Man and his essay against pacifism);</p>
<p>Jouvenel &#8211; &#8220;On Power&#8221; is essential, as is its sequel &#8220;Sovereignty.&#8221;  These may very well be the finest works of political philosophy in the second half of the 20th Century &#8211; and no one&#8217;s ever heard of them.</p>
<p>Kolnai &#8211; &#8220;The Utopian Mind&#8221; is his defining work, but &#8220;Privilege and Liberty&#8221; will do just as well (it&#8217;s probably a hell of a lot cheaper on Amazon).</p>
<p>I will add one further great thinker I did not mention, but whose contributions to developing these themes has yet to be fully appreciated: Michael Polanyi (his easiest work is The Logic of Liberty, again thankfully available in a cheap Liberty Fund edition).  I&#8217;ve long harbored the dream of writing a microcosmic history of the Cold War, or of the struggle between liberty and totalitarianism in general, through the biographies of Michael (liberty) and his brother Karl (communism).  A better writer than me could make a glorious book out of that.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 17:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Better to serve in heaven than reign in hell.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; kolnai 

Wonderful because &#039;serving in heaven&#039; entails truly becoming all that we can be. No greater beneficence exists than God&#039;s. 

BoulderRick,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

I yield to no man in respect for Heinlein but even the master can sometimes get it a bit wrong. 

Many of those &quot;who want people to be controlled&quot; &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; &quot;idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number&quot; but a large number of those &quot;who want people to be controlled&quot; are in it strictly for the power and are willing to do whatever is necessary to impose their will upon others. 

In that quote, Heinlein failed to indicate that for every Trotsky, there is a Stalin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Better to serve in heaven than reign in hell.&#8221;</i> kolnai </p>
<p>Wonderful because &#8216;serving in heaven&#8217; entails truly becoming all that we can be. No greater beneficence exists than God&#8217;s. </p>
<p>BoulderRick,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. The former are idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>I yield to no man in respect for Heinlein but even the master can sometimes get it a bit wrong. </p>
<p>Many of those &#8220;who want people to be controlled&#8221; <i>are</i> &#8220;idealists acting from highest motives for the greatest good of the greatest number&#8221; but a large number of those &#8220;who want people to be controlled&#8221; are in it strictly for the power and are willing to do whatever is necessary to impose their will upon others. </p>
<p>In that quote, Heinlein failed to indicate that for every Trotsky, there is a Stalin.</p>
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		By: M of Hollywood		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/06/against-autonomy-revisited/#comment-545737</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 16:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, Kolnai, ditto to all those feelings and reactions to the trecherous mediocrity of the political and punditry class.
 - here&#039;s the compilation of  Kolnai &#038; DNW reading material:
Ed Feser blog http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/ 
Feser’s  books, e.g., “Aquinas”
 “First Things” by David Bentley Hart
“Christ and Nothing” David Bentley Hart
Kierkegaard  “Religion within the Bounds of Reason Alone”
The will and reason alone have only an immanent or temporal reference, and as such their stds at any given time are, in their essence, and in the absence of any transcendent appeal or grounding, ultimately transient.
Aquinas to Belloc to Chesterton, Lewis, Jouvenel, and Kolnai
Mortimer Adler’s “Ten Philosophical Mistakes”
Bryan Magee’s “Men of Ideas” — series of interviews on YouTube
Susan Shell “Kant and the Limits of Autonomy”
Michael Allen Gillespie “Nihilism Before Nietzsche” and “The Theological Origins of Modernity” (great, but not easy ~ Kolnai)
Kierkegaard’s “The Present Age” 
Richard Weaver’s “Ideas Have Consequences”

... and, for solace that great men in the past have shared a view, and still onward we go through what&#039;s left to play:
https://lifeondoverbeach.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/hello-world/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Kolnai, ditto to all those feelings and reactions to the trecherous mediocrity of the political and punditry class.<br />
 &#8211; here&#8217;s the compilation of  Kolnai &amp; DNW reading material:<br />
Ed Feser blog <a href="http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/</a><br />
Feser’s  books, e.g., “Aquinas”<br />
 “First Things” by David Bentley Hart<br />
“Christ and Nothing” David Bentley Hart<br />
Kierkegaard  “Religion within the Bounds of Reason Alone”<br />
The will and reason alone have only an immanent or temporal reference, and as such their stds at any given time are, in their essence, and in the absence of any transcendent appeal or grounding, ultimately transient.<br />
Aquinas to Belloc to Chesterton, Lewis, Jouvenel, and Kolnai<br />
Mortimer Adler’s “Ten Philosophical Mistakes”<br />
Bryan Magee’s “Men of Ideas” — series of interviews on YouTube<br />
Susan Shell “Kant and the Limits of Autonomy”<br />
Michael Allen Gillespie “Nihilism Before Nietzsche” and “The Theological Origins of Modernity” (great, but not easy ~ Kolnai)<br />
Kierkegaard’s “The Present Age”<br />
Richard Weaver’s “Ideas Have Consequences”</p>
<p>&#8230; and, for solace that great men in the past have shared a view, and still onward we go through what&#8217;s left to play:<br />
<a href="https://lifeondoverbeach.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/hello-world/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://lifeondoverbeach.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/hello-world/</a></p>
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		By: kolnai		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[M of Hollywood -

Yes, gone but still lurking.  Basically I needed to get away from politics; the election was (as I&#039;m sure you understand) extremely depressing to me, and after venting my thoughts here for a few days afterwards, I decided to get some distance, pull back, get my own &quot;house&quot; in order.  As you can see, it took neo posting some serious Kolnai-bait for me to get hooked into commenting :)  

I&#039;m still struggling to get my head back in the game, to convince myself that America remains a game worth the candle.  Or rather, America is worth the candle - I still believe that - but I struggle to see a way forward, everywhere I peek, every possible future looking about equally bleak.  I confess I have been, since November, on the verge of throwing up my hands and coldly stating, &quot;I&#039;m done.  Let it burn.&quot;  

So, when I look at the daily Kabuki of confirmation hearings, tax-and-spend tussles, incessant rhetorizing, the sickening totalitarian mindset increasingly unfiltered on the left, and the almost equally sickening inertia of the Republicans,  my mind floats away into the ether, looks down and sighs:

&quot;Ah, mere waves in the melancholy, long, withdrawing roar.&quot;

On top of which, much of the commentary in the conservative blogosphere is starting to severely aggravate my nerves.  As far as I&#039;m concerned, neo, Ace, William Jacobson, VDH, and perhaps Andrew McCarthy and Mark Steyn, are (along with a few others I&#039;ve momentarily forgotten) the only ones who really &quot;get it.&quot;  The rest is sound and fury - &quot;Infighting!,&quot; &quot;Reform!,&quot; &quot;Gays at CPAC!,&quot; &quot;Gays NOT at CPAC!,&quot; &quot;Is Christie&#039;s RINO-ism the new conservative strategy?&quot; &quot;Rubio, Jindal, immigration reform, oh my!&quot; - signifying absolutely nothing.  

We are now at the point where messaging and messaging about messaging is basically the equivalent of Serious Political Discourse: &quot;How does what I say appear concerning how what someone else is saying appears in relation to the perception of appearances by The Public who wouldn&#039;t know a Real Thing if it poked them in the eye?&quot;  

Yes, yes, in an unfortunately democratized republic such considerations are necessary.  But, for the love of God, they are not therefore interesting or illuminating.  But maybe that&#039;s just me.  

Anyway, good to be back home at neoneocon.  Good to see you back here too, M of Hollywood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M of Hollywood &#8211;</p>
<p>Yes, gone but still lurking.  Basically I needed to get away from politics; the election was (as I&#8217;m sure you understand) extremely depressing to me, and after venting my thoughts here for a few days afterwards, I decided to get some distance, pull back, get my own &#8220;house&#8221; in order.  As you can see, it took neo posting some serious Kolnai-bait for me to get hooked into commenting 🙂  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m still struggling to get my head back in the game, to convince myself that America remains a game worth the candle.  Or rather, America is worth the candle &#8211; I still believe that &#8211; but I struggle to see a way forward, everywhere I peek, every possible future looking about equally bleak.  I confess I have been, since November, on the verge of throwing up my hands and coldly stating, &#8220;I&#8217;m done.  Let it burn.&#8221;  </p>
<p>So, when I look at the daily Kabuki of confirmation hearings, tax-and-spend tussles, incessant rhetorizing, the sickening totalitarian mindset increasingly unfiltered on the left, and the almost equally sickening inertia of the Republicans,  my mind floats away into the ether, looks down and sighs:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ah, mere waves in the melancholy, long, withdrawing roar.&#8221;</p>
<p>On top of which, much of the commentary in the conservative blogosphere is starting to severely aggravate my nerves.  As far as I&#8217;m concerned, neo, Ace, William Jacobson, VDH, and perhaps Andrew McCarthy and Mark Steyn, are (along with a few others I&#8217;ve momentarily forgotten) the only ones who really &#8220;get it.&#8221;  The rest is sound and fury &#8211; &#8220;Infighting!,&#8221; &#8220;Reform!,&#8221; &#8220;Gays at CPAC!,&#8221; &#8220;Gays NOT at CPAC!,&#8221; &#8220;Is Christie&#8217;s RINO-ism the new conservative strategy?&#8221; &#8220;Rubio, Jindal, immigration reform, oh my!&#8221; &#8211; signifying absolutely nothing.  </p>
<p>We are now at the point where messaging and messaging about messaging is basically the equivalent of Serious Political Discourse: &#8220;How does what I say appear concerning how what someone else is saying appears in relation to the perception of appearances by The Public who wouldn&#8217;t know a Real Thing if it poked them in the eye?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Yes, yes, in an unfortunately democratized republic such considerations are necessary.  But, for the love of God, they are not therefore interesting or illuminating.  But maybe that&#8217;s just me.  </p>
<p>Anyway, good to be back home at neoneocon.  Good to see you back here too, M of Hollywood.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the general debate we&#039;ve had with these people forever.... that (and the fact their ideas fail when tried) is why they change the subject (Bush is dumb) or beat strawmen (racist)... literally. you want to give people more freedom and less coercion; well people might hire people unfairly ergo we cant and if you don&#039;t like it your a states right wacko racist... homophope.. blaw blaw blaw... 

Its all they got.. esp since whenever they&#039;re in power the everything starts going to he*l.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the general debate we&#8217;ve had with these people forever&#8230;. that (and the fact their ideas fail when tried) is why they change the subject (Bush is dumb) or beat strawmen (racist)&#8230; literally. you want to give people more freedom and less coercion; well people might hire people unfairly ergo we cant and if you don&#8217;t like it your a states right wacko racist&#8230; homophope.. blaw blaw blaw&#8230; </p>
<p>Its all they got.. esp since whenever they&#8217;re in power the everything starts going to he*l.</p>
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		By: M of Hollywood		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 22:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kolnai:  oh thank you, too.  you and I must have been hitting &quot;Submit Comment&quot; about the same time.  

I didn&#039;t know you wre &quot;gone&quot;, as indicated in neo&#039;s welcome back.  I have been &quot;gone&quot; too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kolnai:  oh thank you, too.  you and I must have been hitting &#8220;Submit Comment&#8221; about the same time.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know you wre &#8220;gone&#8221;, as indicated in neo&#8217;s welcome back.  I have been &#8220;gone&#8221; too.</p>
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