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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 17:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;If they have all three houses, and with a Pres who doesn’t need to worry about re-election — and with the lap dog palace media in his back pocket providing cover every step of the way…&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Agreed. If Obama and Congress start implementing executive orders and passing legislation that are undeniably unconstitutional; such as gutting the 2nd amendment, overturning the 22nd amendment and outlawing home schooling and private schools, nationalizing entire industries, etc. etc... and, a liberal SCOTUS upholds it, either directly or by refusing to hear pertinent cases, what shall we do? 

What would be left but submission or revolution? 

If we choose submission in hopes that liberal Americans will awaken (which arguably we are already doing) and they consciously choose &quot;bread and circuses&quot; (which some are already doing) what shall we then do? 

If we choose revolution, we will most assuredly find out the purpose of the 2700+ light tanks, 1500 fully automatic assault rifles and 1.6 billion rounds of hollow point ammo that the DHS has now bought...

If such comes to pass, will the military defend the Constitution or the &quot;lawfully elected&quot; federal government? 

Lights out indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;If they have all three houses, and with a Pres who doesn’t need to worry about re-election — and with the lap dog palace media in his back pocket providing cover every step of the way…&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Agreed. If Obama and Congress start implementing executive orders and passing legislation that are undeniably unconstitutional; such as gutting the 2nd amendment, overturning the 22nd amendment and outlawing home schooling and private schools, nationalizing entire industries, etc. etc&#8230; and, a liberal SCOTUS upholds it, either directly or by refusing to hear pertinent cases, what shall we do? </p>
<p>What would be left but submission or revolution? </p>
<p>If we choose submission in hopes that liberal Americans will awaken (which arguably we are already doing) and they consciously choose &#8220;bread and circuses&#8221; (which some are already doing) what shall we then do? </p>
<p>If we choose revolution, we will most assuredly find out the purpose of the 2700+ light tanks, 1500 fully automatic assault rifles and 1.6 billion rounds of hollow point ammo that the DHS has now bought&#8230;</p>
<p>If such comes to pass, will the military defend the Constitution or the &#8220;lawfully elected&#8221; federal government? </p>
<p>Lights out indeed.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:41:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama&#039;s just grinding up the US military until it becomes a hollow shell, merely for his own entertainment. Remember that in 2008, some people started thinking that Obama actually enjoyed American deaths, especially the ones caused by him.

All the Leftist talk about defense is merely smoke and mirrors, designed to hide their own enjoyment at US casualties and their own bank accounts growing due to US defense contracts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s just grinding up the US military until it becomes a hollow shell, merely for his own entertainment. Remember that in 2008, some people started thinking that Obama actually enjoyed American deaths, especially the ones caused by him.</p>
<p>All the Leftist talk about defense is merely smoke and mirrors, designed to hide their own enjoyment at US casualties and their own bank accounts growing due to US defense contracts.</p>
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		By: southernjames		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[southernjames]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A poster above asked...&quot;what possible significant change is going to occur over the next 3+ years?&quot;

Oh, if the Chicago machine manages to demonize a few GOP congressmen, who may be in close races and therefore susceptible, with t.v. ads flooding  key markets and costing sums of $$ unheard of EVER in congressional races (just as the presidental approved  hate attack ads on Romney broke new ground); and, manages to (Al Franken come to mind?) stuff a few ballot boxes in a few key places (early voting, absentee voting, late voting, No ID voting and racist to even suggest it, etc etc etc - see a pattern?? Hmm?), and wrest control of the House......

Well hold on to your hats if that happens.  You think what has happened since the 08 elections is jaw droppingly surreal?-- such as:  the 2400 page transformation of our entire health care system that was rammed through without being read or vetted and with no public support.....

Oh we ain&#039;t seen NOTHIN yet, if the one remaining obstacle  to the Transformation of America - a GOP House, is castrated and San Fran Nan is back in charge.  

Too many people don&#039;t seem to understand that THAT is IMO the SOLE objective of the Chicago crowd right now.  The true second term won&#039;t begin until after the 2014 mid-terms.  Right now it is all campaigning, all the time, with the end game of getting control of the House front and center. 

This week?   The REPUBLICANS want granny to STARVE rather than ask Thurston Howell the Third to pay a few more dollars in taxes.  The sequester is ALL their fault (especially Representatives XX,  YY, and ZZ - who just by pure coincidence reside in a targeted district!  Funny how that works!). 
Too many people I know, especially those who try to insist that there is &quot;no difference&quot; between the parties, don&#039;t seem to understand, that for the Chicago crowd, (unlike Dems of old, and current Pubs).....POLLS DON&#039;T MATTER.   In other words, there is nothing dumber  that somebody saying (to use just one example) &quot;Oh, Feinstein&#039;s gun ban bill will never pass, it is too UNPOPULAR.&quot;    This is a sign of somebody that JUST DOESN&#039;T GET IT.  

If they have the POWER, they will pass legislation for &quot;our own good,&quot; because &quot;think of the children&quot; and also because  shut up you homophobic racist - regardless of how it may poll in flyover land.  The flyover rubes didn&#039;t want Obamacare.  The flyover Catholic rubes didn&#039;t want the HHS mandate.  The flyover rubes don&#039;t really feel like paying for Sandra Fluke&#039;s birth control.   The flyover rubes like their ammo to be actually, um available, and at a cost less than $1.85 per cartridge.  The flyover rubes don&#039;t really like Homeland security to be buying 2500 tanks for domestic use.  And on.  And on.

It doesn&#039;t matter.   

If they have all three houses, and with a Pres who doesn&#039;t need to worry about re-election - and with the lap dog palace media in his back pocket providing cover every step of the way.........it is lights out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A poster above asked&#8230;&#8221;what possible significant change is going to occur over the next 3+ years?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, if the Chicago machine manages to demonize a few GOP congressmen, who may be in close races and therefore susceptible, with t.v. ads flooding  key markets and costing sums of $$ unheard of EVER in congressional races (just as the presidental approved  hate attack ads on Romney broke new ground); and, manages to (Al Franken come to mind?) stuff a few ballot boxes in a few key places (early voting, absentee voting, late voting, No ID voting and racist to even suggest it, etc etc etc &#8211; see a pattern?? Hmm?), and wrest control of the House&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Well hold on to your hats if that happens.  You think what has happened since the 08 elections is jaw droppingly surreal?&#8211; such as:  the 2400 page transformation of our entire health care system that was rammed through without being read or vetted and with no public support&#8230;..</p>
<p>Oh we ain&#8217;t seen NOTHIN yet, if the one remaining obstacle  to the Transformation of America &#8211; a GOP House, is castrated and San Fran Nan is back in charge.  </p>
<p>Too many people don&#8217;t seem to understand that THAT is IMO the SOLE objective of the Chicago crowd right now.  The true second term won&#8217;t begin until after the 2014 mid-terms.  Right now it is all campaigning, all the time, with the end game of getting control of the House front and center. </p>
<p>This week?   The REPUBLICANS want granny to STARVE rather than ask Thurston Howell the Third to pay a few more dollars in taxes.  The sequester is ALL their fault (especially Representatives XX,  YY, and ZZ &#8211; who just by pure coincidence reside in a targeted district!  Funny how that works!).<br />
Too many people I know, especially those who try to insist that there is &#8220;no difference&#8221; between the parties, don&#8217;t seem to understand, that for the Chicago crowd, (unlike Dems of old, and current Pubs)&#8230;..POLLS DON&#8217;T MATTER.   In other words, there is nothing dumber  that somebody saying (to use just one example) &#8220;Oh, Feinstein&#8217;s gun ban bill will never pass, it is too UNPOPULAR.&#8221;    This is a sign of somebody that JUST DOESN&#8217;T GET IT.  </p>
<p>If they have the POWER, they will pass legislation for &#8220;our own good,&#8221; because &#8220;think of the children&#8221; and also because  shut up you homophobic racist &#8211; regardless of how it may poll in flyover land.  The flyover rubes didn&#8217;t want Obamacare.  The flyover Catholic rubes didn&#8217;t want the HHS mandate.  The flyover rubes don&#8217;t really feel like paying for Sandra Fluke&#8217;s birth control.   The flyover rubes like their ammo to be actually, um available, and at a cost less than $1.85 per cartridge.  The flyover rubes don&#8217;t really like Homeland security to be buying 2500 tanks for domestic use.  And on.  And on.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter.   </p>
<p>If they have all three houses, and with a Pres who doesn&#8217;t need to worry about re-election &#8211; and with the lap dog palace media in his back pocket providing cover every step of the way&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;it is lights out.</p>
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		By: G Joubert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G Joubert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 15:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two things the Republican Party can do to begin rebuilding itself:

1. Rehabilitate Bush&#039;s legacy.  Inexplicably, Bush/Rove wouldn&#039;t defend Bush in real time, i.e., during Bush&#039;s presidency, and the left fully exploited the opportunity to treat him, and Republicans generally, as a punching bag for 4+ years. As long as low information voters connect Repubs and conservatism with the 8 years of Bush, and as long as they continue to see  Bush as a total failure,  the Republican brand will stay in the loo. So, it&#039;s late and after the fact, but they&#039;ve got to do what they can.

2. Go back to the basics.  And I mean the very basics.  The starting point is with the fact that the very reason the Republican Party was formed in the first place --it&#039;s very reason for existence-- was to stop and end slavery.  And it was the Democrats who were fighting to keep slavery. How many low information voters even know this history? From there they should go on to show how the conservative approach is empowering to all people on an equal opportunity basis.

Rather than spending the next 4 years in a negative posture, criticizing Obama, bewailing what he&#039;s doing,  expend some energy and capital in a positive way, building up Republicanism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things the Republican Party can do to begin rebuilding itself:</p>
<p>1. Rehabilitate Bush&#8217;s legacy.  Inexplicably, Bush/Rove wouldn&#8217;t defend Bush in real time, i.e., during Bush&#8217;s presidency, and the left fully exploited the opportunity to treat him, and Republicans generally, as a punching bag for 4+ years. As long as low information voters connect Repubs and conservatism with the 8 years of Bush, and as long as they continue to see  Bush as a total failure,  the Republican brand will stay in the loo. So, it&#8217;s late and after the fact, but they&#8217;ve got to do what they can.</p>
<p>2. Go back to the basics.  And I mean the very basics.  The starting point is with the fact that the very reason the Republican Party was formed in the first place &#8211;it&#8217;s very reason for existence&#8211; was to stop and end slavery.  And it was the Democrats who were fighting to keep slavery. How many low information voters even know this history? From there they should go on to show how the conservative approach is empowering to all people on an equal opportunity basis.</p>
<p>Rather than spending the next 4 years in a negative posture, criticizing Obama, bewailing what he&#8217;s doing,  expend some energy and capital in a positive way, building up Republicanism.</p>
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		By: Armchair pessimist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Armchair pessimist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t have a president; we have a Chicago style city hall in charge. Its sole business is to stay in power by handing out favors to its constituent voting blocks. &quot;All politics is local&quot; said a lesser practitioner of this black art. 

To the extent that we have a foreign policy, it is to satisfy the influential America-last crowd in the Dem Party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have a president; we have a Chicago style city hall in charge. Its sole business is to stay in power by handing out favors to its constituent voting blocks. &#8220;All politics is local&#8221; said a lesser practitioner of this black art. </p>
<p>To the extent that we have a foreign policy, it is to satisfy the influential America-last crowd in the Dem Party.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric,

Not sure about winning the narrative.  The narrative isn&#039;t the important thing.  As has been suggested about Jews voting liberal/dem, their interests, or presumed interests--Israel, anti-Semitism in this country, the problems of poverty, etc.--notwithstanding because Christians, particularly conservative Christians, are voting a certain way.  Thus liberal Jews must vote the other way.  Not being Jewish or having been to a temple in more than forty years, I can&#039;t say.  But it is certainly what I get from my friends and relations.
The best idea in the world, no matter how clear, would lose to these folks if proposed by conservatives.  Voting against conservatives is the controlling dynamic.
You should hear them desperately fighting the retreat of the global warming hoax.  They NEED it to be true because conservatives claim it&#039;s false. No other reason.  The cannier among the hoaxers--they like the subsidies, the power cession to the State--but the ordinary folks voting lib are voting against conservatives.  Period.
What to do?  I have no idea.  Teach thinking for yourself, I suppose, like they do in public school.  No, wait.  What?  Never mind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Not sure about winning the narrative.  The narrative isn&#8217;t the important thing.  As has been suggested about Jews voting liberal/dem, their interests, or presumed interests&#8211;Israel, anti-Semitism in this country, the problems of poverty, etc.&#8211;notwithstanding because Christians, particularly conservative Christians, are voting a certain way.  Thus liberal Jews must vote the other way.  Not being Jewish or having been to a temple in more than forty years, I can&#8217;t say.  But it is certainly what I get from my friends and relations.<br />
The best idea in the world, no matter how clear, would lose to these folks if proposed by conservatives.  Voting against conservatives is the controlling dynamic.<br />
You should hear them desperately fighting the retreat of the global warming hoax.  They NEED it to be true because conservatives claim it&#8217;s false. No other reason.  The cannier among the hoaxers&#8211;they like the subsidies, the power cession to the State&#8211;but the ordinary folks voting lib are voting against conservatives.  Period.<br />
What to do?  I have no idea.  Teach thinking for yourself, I suppose, like they do in public school.  No, wait.  What?  Never mind.</p>
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		By: Daniel in Brookline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel in Brookline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 12:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[expat:  Obama lost his cool, visibly, a number of times during the 2012 election.  It affected neither his re-election prospects nor his popularity.

They used to say that a politician was so secure, the only way he could lose would be to get caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.  I truly doubt whether even that would be enough to sway the Obama True Believers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>expat:  Obama lost his cool, visibly, a number of times during the 2012 election.  It affected neither his re-election prospects nor his popularity.</p>
<p>They used to say that a politician was so secure, the only way he could lose would be to get caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy.  I truly doubt whether even that would be enough to sway the Obama True Believers.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 09:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia,

I&#039;m still not sure that if the economy is still bad and if the MSM starts expressing doubt, the people won&#039;t also begin to doubt. And if Ben Carson and the Brooklyn minister with his 35,000-member congregation as well as the head of the Black Chamber of Commerce can start to be heard and raise questions among blacks, both the black vote and the white guilt vote could be a bit diminished.

I would love to see people like Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel, and Shirley Jackson Lee challenged by tough black Republicans and in a way that the MSM would have to cover it.

I&#039;m not making predictions, only suggesting possibilities. One other factor: how long can he remain cool? Dampening enthusiasm among the young could be a factor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob From Virginia,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not sure that if the economy is still bad and if the MSM starts expressing doubt, the people won&#8217;t also begin to doubt. And if Ben Carson and the Brooklyn minister with his 35,000-member congregation as well as the head of the Black Chamber of Commerce can start to be heard and raise questions among blacks, both the black vote and the white guilt vote could be a bit diminished.</p>
<p>I would love to see people like Maxine Waters, Charlie Rangel, and Shirley Jackson Lee challenged by tough black Republicans and in a way that the MSM would have to cover it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not making predictions, only suggesting possibilities. One other factor: how long can he remain cool? Dampening enthusiasm among the young could be a factor.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 07:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[note to those who may have missed it:  Beverly&#039;s comment about &quot;The Eternal Republican&quot; was a reference to the Nazi hate flick &quot;The Eternal Jew&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>note to those who may have missed it:  Beverly&#8217;s comment about &#8220;The Eternal Republican&#8221; was a reference to the Nazi hate flick &#8220;The Eternal Jew&#8221;.</p>
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		By: beverly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beverly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2013 07:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Genius? I think it&#039;s what we used to call &quot;low cunning.&quot;

I agree that the pinko crowd vote as much out of hatred/disdain for what they imagine &quot;conservatives&quot; are, as out of a luuuve for Hussein.

Next up: a little leftie &quot;documentary&quot; called &quot;The Eternal Republican.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Genius? I think it&#8217;s what we used to call &#8220;low cunning.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree that the pinko crowd vote as much out of hatred/disdain for what they imagine &#8220;conservatives&#8221; are, as out of a luuuve for Hussein.</p>
<p>Next up: a little leftie &#8220;documentary&#8221; called &#8220;The Eternal Republican.&#8221;</p>
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