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	Comments on: Revisiting Wallace and Jennings, 1987	</title>
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		By: Teri Pittman		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/04/revisiting-wallace-and-jennings-1987/#comment-542411</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Teri Pittman]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[And, of course, we can now see what bogus liars they were. If there is some &quot;journalistic calling&quot;, then reporters would be expected to cover a story, regardless of their personal beliefs.  We now have journalists as the propaganda wing of the Democratic party.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, of course, we can now see what bogus liars they were. If there is some &#8220;journalistic calling&#8221;, then reporters would be expected to cover a story, regardless of their personal beliefs.  We now have journalists as the propaganda wing of the Democratic party.</p>
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		By: thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/04/revisiting-wallace-and-jennings-1987/#comment-542201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 15:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;And in a way, Hussein’s alleged actions would be the more understandable of the two, if in fact his motivation was allegiance to the insurgents’ cause. At least his actions would then be consistent with his beliefs.&quot;

It would also make him a valid military target imo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And in a way, Hussein’s alleged actions would be the more understandable of the two, if in fact his motivation was allegiance to the insurgents’ cause. At least his actions would then be consistent with his beliefs.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would also make him a valid military target imo.</p>
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		By: SCOTTtheBADGER		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/04/revisiting-wallace-and-jennings-1987/#comment-541913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SCOTTtheBADGER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wallace had clearly made the step that the SS Sonderkommandos had made, he stopped thinking of the Marines as people, and thought of them as it. By doing so, a person embraces evil, and journalism has done so. 

Getting the &quot;scoop&quot; in a situation like this can only be done for the purpuse of enhancing the reporter, granting him greater power, and money, in the future, ethics are immaterial.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallace had clearly made the step that the SS Sonderkommandos had made, he stopped thinking of the Marines as people, and thought of them as it. By doing so, a person embraces evil, and journalism has done so. </p>
<p>Getting the &#8220;scoop&#8221; in a situation like this can only be done for the purpuse of enhancing the reporter, granting him greater power, and money, in the future, ethics are immaterial.</p>
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		By: southpaw		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[southpaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 05:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So &#039;reporter&#039; is a profession so noble its only allgiance is to its own self-described sacred tenets?  Imagine if other professions&#039; only moral boundaries were set by the practitioners of the profession. As an engineer, I could jettison the earthly unwritten understanding that what I design must be safe as well as functional.
There are So many things we could accomplish if we didn&#039;t artificially bind ourselves to safety principles, in favor of an  optimized design. . Cars wouldn&#039;t need to be safe, just get you where you&#039;re going as fast and as cheap as possible. 
I don&#039;t know how a person with an ego that big can live with themself. There are no adjectives to describe a person like Wallace. Parker is close, but you could fill volumes marveling at what&#039;s wrong with mike Wallace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8216;reporter&#8217; is a profession so noble its only allgiance is to its own self-described sacred tenets?  Imagine if other professions&#8217; only moral boundaries were set by the practitioners of the profession. As an engineer, I could jettison the earthly unwritten understanding that what I design must be safe as well as functional.<br />
There are So many things we could accomplish if we didn&#8217;t artificially bind ourselves to safety principles, in favor of an  optimized design. . Cars wouldn&#8217;t need to be safe, just get you where you&#8217;re going as fast and as cheap as possible.<br />
I don&#8217;t know how a person with an ego that big can live with themself. There are no adjectives to describe a person like Wallace. Parker is close, but you could fill volumes marveling at what&#8217;s wrong with mike Wallace.</p>
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		By: JJ formerly Jimmy J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/04/revisiting-wallace-and-jennings-1987/#comment-541826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ formerly Jimmy J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I stand by my comments made on the earlier posts.

The MSM is not objective! Yet they claim (and possibly believe) that they are. Many low info voters believe them - unfortunately. It is one of the biggest problems facing this country. 

Jennings and Wallace are no longer with  us, but their influence in the world of journalism is much, much too alive. 

In the previous threads McLovins was hooked on the idea of a &quot;legal&quot; war. As I pointed out: When we are attacked, the issues have been debated, and the votes have been  counted; if the vote was for authorizing war or its cousin, use of military force, the war is legal. You may not like it and you can speak out against it and petition your representatives to change their minds, but it is still a legal war. Nations do have a right to self defense and citizens have a duty to support the cause that their representatives have set before them. 

The idea of embedding with the enemy is absurd on its face and follows from the Vietnam days when the journalists tried to depict the VC as &quot;agrarian reformers.&quot; The idea of embedding with an enemy is really an act of being used as a propaganda tool for the enemy. CNN did just that when it bent over backwards to keep journalists in Iraq to provide, IMO, propaganda for  Saddam. All in the service of molding public opinion to follow the &quot;correct&quot; agenda. It has only gotten worse as time passes.  

What to do about it?  Infiltrate the J schools with conservatives would be a good place to start.  Convince conservative billionaires buy up major media companies and change their editorial policies would be another.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand by my comments made on the earlier posts.</p>
<p>The MSM is not objective! Yet they claim (and possibly believe) that they are. Many low info voters believe them &#8211; unfortunately. It is one of the biggest problems facing this country. </p>
<p>Jennings and Wallace are no longer with  us, but their influence in the world of journalism is much, much too alive. </p>
<p>In the previous threads McLovins was hooked on the idea of a &#8220;legal&#8221; war. As I pointed out: When we are attacked, the issues have been debated, and the votes have been  counted; if the vote was for authorizing war or its cousin, use of military force, the war is legal. You may not like it and you can speak out against it and petition your representatives to change their minds, but it is still a legal war. Nations do have a right to self defense and citizens have a duty to support the cause that their representatives have set before them. </p>
<p>The idea of embedding with the enemy is absurd on its face and follows from the Vietnam days when the journalists tried to depict the VC as &#8220;agrarian reformers.&#8221; The idea of embedding with an enemy is really an act of being used as a propaganda tool for the enemy. CNN did just that when it bent over backwards to keep journalists in Iraq to provide, IMO, propaganda for  Saddam. All in the service of molding public opinion to follow the &#8220;correct&#8221; agenda. It has only gotten worse as time passes.  </p>
<p>What to do about it?  Infiltrate the J schools with conservatives would be a good place to start.  Convince conservative billionaires buy up major media companies and change their editorial policies would be another.</p>
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		By: holmes		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As long as it&#039;s military men who are dying, they stay detached.  But if it&#039;s their party&#039;s President who is in trouble, well, any weapon at hand.  

Excellent post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as it&#8217;s military men who are dying, they stay detached.  But if it&#8217;s their party&#8217;s President who is in trouble, well, any weapon at hand.  </p>
<p>Excellent post.</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/04/revisiting-wallace-and-jennings-1987/#comment-541803</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;If the littlest and weakest member of a herd of wildebeest is taken down, it’s merely the operation of that process, and to protect the wildebeest makes no sense.&quot; (Only if it&#039;s not an &quot;endagered&quot; wildebeest&quot; -- Then, not only IT but its habitat takes precedence over all else.)

Liberals don&#039;t have a consitent stanbdard for anything...it&#039;s all &quot;expediency of the moment.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the littlest and weakest member of a herd of wildebeest is taken down, it’s merely the operation of that process, and to protect the wildebeest makes no sense.&#8221; (Only if it&#8217;s not an &#8220;endagered&#8221; wildebeest&#8221; &#8212; Then, not only IT but its habitat takes precedence over all else.)</p>
<p>Liberals don&#8217;t have a consitent stanbdard for anything&#8230;it&#8217;s all &#8220;expediency of the moment.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/04/revisiting-wallace-and-jennings-1987/#comment-541794</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, no, I hadn&#039;t read it, in honesty. But I guess to zeroth order I assume journalists are enemies of America, because it seems (to me at least) that the considerable majority of them are, and thus I feel little sympathy for them. I base this assessment on incidents such as that recounted concerning Wallace, whom I consider more representative of journalists as a whole than I do, e.g., Daniel Pearl. 

So while I take your point, neo, and am suitably abashed, on the other hand I would liken journalists to Germans during WWII. Sure, there are good ones in there - somewhere - but it&#039;s hard to feel a lot of sympathy for individuals who statistically are likely to be unworthy of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, no, I hadn&#8217;t read it, in honesty. But I guess to zeroth order I assume journalists are enemies of America, because it seems (to me at least) that the considerable majority of them are, and thus I feel little sympathy for them. I base this assessment on incidents such as that recounted concerning Wallace, whom I consider more representative of journalists as a whole than I do, e.g., Daniel Pearl. </p>
<p>So while I take your point, neo, and am suitably abashed, on the other hand I would liken journalists to Germans during WWII. Sure, there are good ones in there &#8211; somewhere &#8211; but it&#8217;s hard to feel a lot of sympathy for individuals who statistically are likely to be unworthy of it.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/04/revisiting-wallace-and-jennings-1987/#comment-541755</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Occam&#039;s Beard: did you even read &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2013/03/02/the-press-has-won/#comment-541093&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;what I wrote earlier in response to you&lt;/a&gt;?  

What you have written is, to be frank, morally repugnant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam&#8217;s Beard: did you even read <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2013/03/02/the-press-has-won/#comment-541093" rel="nofollow">what I wrote earlier in response to you</a>?  </p>
<p>What you have written is, to be frank, morally repugnant.</p>
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		By: Susanamantha		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/03/04/revisiting-wallace-and-jennings-1987/#comment-541749</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susanamantha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 03:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The death of journalist Michael Kelly in Iraq was a tragedy. I still re-read some of his articles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The death of journalist Michael Kelly in Iraq was a tragedy. I still re-read some of his articles.</p>
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