With total sincerity…. no one who regularly reads your posts (or portions of your posts) doubts that you possess an encyclopedia of facts at your fingertips and a keen intellect to interpret that knowledge, and the ability to make connections that are valuable and unique. But my friendly advice is to slow down and be as succinct as possible. Otherwise, you leave your intended audience behind and quickly bored.

I conceded the point that verbal generosity is sometimes necessary; thereafter, however, I cautioned that that does not mean a license to spew words in total anarchy and disorder, which is surely the greatest impediment to understanding.

If your posts need the length to make your point, I’d be the last to complain; I’m capable of making my posts just as long. The trouble is, when reading your stuff, I feel like a prospector dipping his basin in the water and trying, trying, ever trying to sift out those gold nuggets of, uh, that thing called “the point”; y’know, the actual message you intended to convey with your words. I don’t always succeed, and even when I do I find the effort to have been more than it needed to be. Not so much because of the length, but because you make a direct brain-to-keyboard transfer action without the medial stage of structuring the information.

It may be that this isn’t your fault, Art. But, then you should understand people’s point of view when they look at your posts and file each and every one of ’em under the “TL;DR” header.

I first heard of the Trait (for me, Syndrome is too often associated with Disorders) from a co-worker whose daughter wasn’t quite high functioning enough to live alone.

When I married and met my brother-in-law, I knew right away what was going on. I went online to learn more, which was when I found Robison’s book. When it arrived in the mail, I found that the author had signed it himself!

For the Trait-bearer and his two brothers and parents, life was very difficult. The Trait-bearer was the eldest, but didn’t seem to fit the Big Brother mold which was expected by his younger siblings. His father was traveling on business quite a lot. His mother was an endurance athlete of maternity. Very devoted to all three boys.

What breaks my heart for the Trait-bearer is that he can’t understand that the people who want to love him are every bit as confounded by the Trait as he is. Both sides of the Opaque Wall of Asperger’s are occupied by frustration to be understood (and to understand).

The Trait-bearer bears the main brunt of the Opacities of life among non-Traitors. But what he doesn’t realize is that loving ones (often relatives) see what he’s going through, and care deeply — without an impactful way of being able to express it to the Trait-bearer.

I came late to the party in that family. I often found myself wishing that the Trait-bearer could self-edit and summarize and try to be more patient with those who are not capable of walking the Tangential Tightrope of Aspergian thinking — or, if not incapable of it, then, certainly too fearful of getting lost out there.

May G~d bless the Trait-bearers, of every type.
In my tradition, G~d has an alias: Jesus. In that person, He said, “Feed my sheep.” I pray that G~d will help me to remember: He said, “Feed my sheep.” He didn’t specify which ones. He didn’t appoint me to vet them; but, He did also say to “Love one another.” (Easy for Jesus to say!!) lol

Oh, my! I have droned on!

[Please forgive my typos. I have a bad habit of eating popcorn over my laptop. It sometimes shows.]

ALBERT Einstein was three or four years old before he could speak and seven before he could read, and slouched his way through school. He also had some trouble remembering his address –

he very rarely wore socks…
he forgot his family, buring himself in his work

his family referred to him as “Der Depperte”
“the dopey one”

Whenever he had something to
say, he would try it out on himself, whispering it softly until it sounded good enough to pronounce aloud. “Every sentence he uttered,” his worshipful younger
sister recalled, “no matter how routine, he repeated to himself softly, moving his lips.” It was all very worrying, she said. “He had such difficulty with language that those around him feared he would never learn.”

so please stop using albert einstein as a man i should copy. we both have aspergers and we both showed problems in language and expressing

what neurotypicals who are ignorant do, is imagine the great man as perfect as they are… NOT that such people have severe differences that their greatness made people ignore – which is why the normal people imagine them as normal

so you guys, stupidly used a man with bad language skills and serious problems (some more than i have), to be someone i shoudl copy.

why?

because you assume in order for him to be great he didnt havfe that, not that he had that and was great because of other things that were more positive from that!

ie. you knew the myth, not the man… and you wanted me to be the myth, not the man too

His slow development was combined with a cheeky rebelliousness toward authority

i am more like him than you all would think..
when you guys act with authority telling me what to do, dont i get cheeky (obstinate?)

These traits made Albert Einstein the patron saint of distracted school kids everywhere.
But they also helped make him, or so he later surmised, the most creative scientific genius of modern times.

His cocky contempt for authority led him to question received wisdom in ways that well-trained acolytes in the academy never contemplated.

And as for his slow verbal development, he thought that it allowed him to observe with wonder the everyday phenomena that others took for granted.

Instead of puzzling over mysterious things, he puzzled over the commonplace.

“When I ask myself how it happened that I in particular discovered the relativity theory, it seemed to lie in the following circumstance,” Einstein once explained. “The ordinary adult never bothers his head about the problems of space and time. These are things he has thought of as a child. But I developed so slowly that I began to wonder about space and time only when I was already grown up. Consequently, I probed more deeply into the problem than an ordinary child would have.”

see the movie ADAM…

ie. i notice what others dont as i dont have the programming to ignore it and operate. i have to think everything through. is my leg i the right place, am i looking them in the eye and not staring through them which makes the social experts very scared… did i remember to smile… (i rarely smile)

it was nice you picked einstein as a pillar of writing ability and normalicy
its a perfect illustration of the level of inacuracy used to win a debate

ie. you thought the mention would be a point in a debate. but not for my side

and you thought that because you credited your asumptions as if they were facts and in a world of most people who dont have facts, assumptions with authority sounds right. which is why people dont like me, i have the facts, i kow what they are, i know when they are bullshi**ing, even when THEY dont know…

how do you show a man that he is bullshi**ing himself?

you cant… they will defend and harp on non things, like size of content, rather than facts in content. if you cant compete on facts, fight over punctuation, length, flow, ANYTHING BUT content where you come up short.

and while the athiets love to quote einstein about his dropping judaism at 12…
they sure dont read him either

“The fanatical atheists,” he wrote in a letter, “are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who-in their grudge against traditional religion as the ‘opium of the masses’– cannot hear the music of the spheres.”

The realm of science, he said, was to ascertain what was the case, but not evaluate human thoughts and actions about what should be the case. Religion had the reverse
mandate. Yet the endeavors worked together at times. “Science can be created only by those who are thoroughly imbued with the aspiration toward truth and
understanding,” he said. “This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of religion.”

here is a picture of albert in fuzzy slippers
http://maudelynn.tumblr.com/

in fact, the einstein of the theory is not the einstine we love
the einstein we love is the old man who learned to deal with people better
who, because he didnt know waht was proper, did improper things that people today see as breaking convention. like the picture with his toungue out. he got tired of the paparazzi, and stuck his tounge out at them.

my uncle knew einstein… they lived in the same place in jersy when einstein was at princeton. i used to visit and he would take me to see the locations, by then einstein was dead… and feynman would die before i got to meet him too ..

here are some more einstein things

One of Einstein’s favorite things was to walk around without wearing socks. He felt that the big toe always just put a hole in the sock, so there was really no point in wearing them in the first place.

Although his mind was very keen and able to figure out some of the most complicated and difficult questions of man, Einstein was a very poor speller. He learned English as a second language and spoke it fluently, but was never able to write very well in English.

When Einstein was 17, he applied for an early admission to the Swill Federal Polytechnical School but failed his entrance exam. Of course, he passed the math and science sections with flying colors, but didn’t do well on the history, languages and geography parts.

http://www.forwardmotion.info/archive/insights.pdf

“Allan”2 is a brilliant programmer
who forgets to make eye contact
and to smile. He irritates colleagues
by interrupting them and by making
painfully blunt but usually accurate
assessments of their ideas (“Th at’s
dumb and won’t work!”).

Remarkable as it seems, these individuals are intending to be friendly, helpful and effi cient and simply do not understand the unspoken rules of social interaction that most people take for granted.

It is estimated that 93 percent of human communication take place non-verbally via body language, facial expression, tone and volume of voice and even physical proximity to others.

People with Asperger’s Syndrome have great difficulty understanding nonverbal cues often equate navigating the social world with living in a foreign culture or hailing from a different planet.

Imagine not being able to tell whether someone’s facial expression or tone of voice is happy, sad or angry.

Or hearing language very literally and thinking, for example, that a “bad hair day” at work is a grooming issue.

Suppose you wanted to join your colleagues for lunch but did not know how to make small talk, or found looking someone in the eye to be distracting or painful?

Unlike their “neurotypical” peers, who intuitively learn to recognize idiomatic expressions, sarcasm, social “rules” and nonverbal cues in childhood, Asperger individuals must learn these things intellectually, which oft en becomes a lifelong process of trial and lots of error.

(with very expensive failures – artfldgr)
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Asperger’s Syndrome confers specifi c strengths that make
these individuals particularly well-suited to jobs requiring
attention to detail and prolonged focus. Careers in computer
programming, technical documentation, academic and scientifi
c research, engineering and academia are among the choices
that make good use of their logic and analytical skills, excellent memory for facts, vast knowledge of specialized fi elds, tolerance of routine and creative problem solving.

so the whole gender thing kicking me out of my lifes path into academic research from bronx science ended up putting me in the sand box with the average people and all their mean ways, their lack of undertsanding their abusive lessons and so on.

you think einstein was normal, but he had aspergers too
want to hear the abnormalities they dont bring up?

he wore one color suit… and had 7 of them
that way he wouldn’t waste thinking on what to wear

you probably never read what he actually wrote, and your quoting what he learned from not being able to do that naturally. ie. he had to learn to write concisely and such and had school training in such. but his failure gives him insight and so he can say clever things. when someone else who writes well would never notice the parts that make it that way.

nokolai tesla also had aspergers… (and ocd?), he would count and compute the cubic size of the meals he ate. he would use 9 forks and such… and if walked passed a place would have to walk about the block a few times before he could enter

your judging them as having to be normal because you like their great works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and dont know them. and their quirks and so on.

in fact. if you DID know their quirks and such you would realize that some of the stories and things and insights come from their not knowing and discovering what would normally be internalized.

Asperger’s Syndrome confers specifi c strengths that make
these individuals particularly well-suited to jobs requiring
attention to detail and prolonged focus. Careers in computer
programming, technical documentation, academic and scientifi
c research, engineering and academia are among the choices
that make good use of their logic and analytical skills, excellent memory for facts, vast knowledge of specialized fields, tolerance of routine and creative problem solving.

Specialisterne, a Danish soft ware company, specifi cally hires
people on the autism spectrum because, according to its founder, “…they are methodical and exhibit great attention to detail.” He also notes strengths in “motivation, focus, persistence, precision and ability to follow instructions.” 4

we are better at things people value..

so on this blog, by some, i am harangued…
but by others, and people i work with (researchers in genetics, super computing (mnerva), and all that) to them i am amazing and they haev said so, and they called up the president of the hospital/school, and requested that they keep me.
ie. docs pooled together to tell the mean people who dont get it, to keep me as they need me.

they use me as a super google… ie. they ask questions in passing and i give them answers from the memory pool. these answers span chemistry, physics, biology, genetics, systems, programing, mathemastics, history, psychology, leletronics, and so on and so on. [aspergers people usually have an obsessive interest… mine is how does everything work!]

without human interaction being too important and not sleeping i could spend my time devouring all that, and my almost eidetic memory lets me reference it and pull it up

AND What the researchers love most is that i am empirical. not only do i ahve the fact, but i have the papers, can find them, and give the whole line of thought.

this is why a high school grad can work with people you guys would say are very smart and famous and i am not in their league… when those people themselves work with me because they need what i do.

without that, this job would be perfectly hellish

neo.
can you put up the last version of what i been trying to post?

Holden, it’s not other people’s fault that you dropped that shellac record of swing music and it was smashed to smithereens. Sheesh.