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		By: Tamquam		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/02/08/the-press-and-propaganda-and-evil/#comment-527886</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[DNW: &quot;conviction they have that you are theirs to manage and utilize.&quot;

This theological insight gets to the root of it.  It is the very antithesis of the &quot;I-thou&quot; relationship in which individuals cherish their own and each other&#039;s uniqueness as bearers of the &lt;i&gt;imago Dei&lt;/i&gt;.  

Demonic possession is the condition in which individuals gives themselves entirely over to being completely managed and utilized by an outside entity.  Totalitarian ideologies aim for this end on an industrial scale.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DNW: &#8220;conviction they have that you are theirs to manage and utilize.&#8221;</p>
<p>This theological insight gets to the root of it.  It is the very antithesis of the &#8220;I-thou&#8221; relationship in which individuals cherish their own and each other&#8217;s uniqueness as bearers of the <i>imago Dei</i>.  </p>
<p>Demonic possession is the condition in which individuals gives themselves entirely over to being completely managed and utilized by an outside entity.  Totalitarian ideologies aim for this end on an industrial scale.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 13:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim K finally said it and added BHO to the list. I agree.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim K finally said it and added BHO to the list. I agree.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 05:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[parker, 11:12 pm --

I never intended that what I wrote should apply to you personally.  You strike me very much as one who does his own thinking and could not care less about the herd.

By the way, referring to &quot;Over the last 5 years it is obvious that we are no longer a republic,&quot; I (reluctantly) agree!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parker, 11:12 pm &#8212;</p>
<p>I never intended that what I wrote should apply to you personally.  You strike me very much as one who does his own thinking and could not care less about the herd.</p>
<p>By the way, referring to &#8220;Over the last 5 years it is obvious that we are no longer a republic,&#8221; I (reluctantly) agree!</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 05:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jim Kearney Says: 
February 8th, 2013 at 10:29 pm
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;It is the banal evil that can live next door looking like everyone else at the supermarket.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
As I&#039;ve said before, it&#039;s a sobering thought that 52% of the people I see at the supermarket would just as soon kill me and confiscate my property, and think nothing of it.  It&#039;s only fair, since I have more then they do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Kearney Says:<br />
February 8th, 2013 at 10:29 pm</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>It is the banal evil that can live next door looking like everyone else at the supermarket.</p></blockquote>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said before, it&#8217;s a sobering thought that 52% of the people I see at the supermarket would just as soon kill me and confiscate my property, and think nothing of it.  It&#8217;s only fair, since I have more then they do.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 04:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[M J R,

I can only speak for me, not anyone else &#039;right or left&#039;. I stand with me and mine; brothers, sister, my children, grandchildren, cousins, nieces, nephews, and my close friends and a few of my neighbors.  I do not look beyond this &#039;clan&#039; for affirmation.  I care not for anything that issues forth from DC, Des Moines, Sacramento, Albany, Tehran, London, Berlin, Moscow or elsewhere.  

We are islands attempting to communicate, successfully or not with other islands. Over the last 5 years it is obvious that we are no longer a republic.  RIP Ben Franklin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M J R,</p>
<p>I can only speak for me, not anyone else &#8216;right or left&#8217;. I stand with me and mine; brothers, sister, my children, grandchildren, cousins, nieces, nephews, and my close friends and a few of my neighbors.  I do not look beyond this &#8216;clan&#8217; for affirmation.  I care not for anything that issues forth from DC, Des Moines, Sacramento, Albany, Tehran, London, Berlin, Moscow or elsewhere.  </p>
<p>We are islands attempting to communicate, successfully or not with other islands. Over the last 5 years it is obvious that we are no longer a republic.  RIP Ben Franklin.</p>
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		By: Jim Kearney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 03:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is the banal evil that can live next door looking like everyone else at the supermarket.  &quot;The People Of The Lie&quot; as M Scott Peck called them.  The Texas Cheerleader Mom who killed off her daughter&#039;s competition so she could make the squad.  And as in the book, the parents of the boy who committed suicide with a rifle, who gave their next son, as a Christmas present the very next year, the very gun that his brother used. Under a Pol Pot, or a Hitler, these &quot;People of The Lie&quot; are the ones who fuel the engine.  The Sociopath next door.  We have one of these in Office as President.  And very few recognize him for who he is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the banal evil that can live next door looking like everyone else at the supermarket.  &#8220;The People Of The Lie&#8221; as M Scott Peck called them.  The Texas Cheerleader Mom who killed off her daughter&#8217;s competition so she could make the squad.  And as in the book, the parents of the boy who committed suicide with a rifle, who gave their next son, as a Christmas present the very next year, the very gun that his brother used. Under a Pol Pot, or a Hitler, these &#8220;People of The Lie&#8221; are the ones who fuel the engine.  The Sociopath next door.  We have one of these in Office as President.  And very few recognize him for who he is.</p>
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		By: thomass		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 03:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had an extended conversation, on another forum, with a student in the UK. He had been raised with idea that socialism was just social services. Something I considered a warped redefinition leaving out all the bad parts. But the funny thing, with the joke being on revisionists, even though he thought of himself of a socialist (by the doctored definition) he was still just a normal person from the UK... &#039;They&#039; changed only the meaning of the word; not the people... 

If they teach people to call a circle something else; it didn&#039;t change much. The problem is if people no longer see a circle (ah la 2+2=?)...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an extended conversation, on another forum, with a student in the UK. He had been raised with idea that socialism was just social services. Something I considered a warped redefinition leaving out all the bad parts. But the funny thing, with the joke being on revisionists, even though he thought of himself of a socialist (by the doctored definition) he was still just a normal person from the UK&#8230; &#8216;They&#8217; changed only the meaning of the word; not the people&#8230; </p>
<p>If they teach people to call a circle something else; it didn&#8217;t change much. The problem is if people no longer see a circle (ah la 2+2=?)&#8230;</p>
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		By: Rose		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 02:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stalin, Goebbels, Ahmadinejad...

Ahmadinejad hasn&#039;t yet earned his deserved place in pantheon of evil. Not for lack of trying though.A procession of Islamic leaders before him, have frankly admitted desire to wipe Israel off the map.Ahmadinejad is only the latest, but not the last of them.

A qualified Muslim jurist,Ayatollah Rafsanjani, who doubled as president and armed forces boss of the IRI, in a patrimonial comment aimed at global Muslim community once intoned:fulfill your destiny! actively reach for the know how, the manufacture, and the means of delivering the A-Bomb.

The Ayatollah then gave a surreal calculus reminiscent of one delivered by George C Scott&#039;s SAC general Buck Turgidson in the movie Dr. Strangelove:
 
 &quot;If Israel should attack the Muslim community using her nuclear arsenal, she may kill 50 million Muslim, 75 million tops!. The numbers favor Muslim community which will survive the trauma. But if we Muslims successfully nuke Israel only once, Israel and the Jews cannot survive the outcome, Allah Be Praised.&quot;

The movie and the general were fantasy. Rafsanjani then and Ahmadinejad now are reality.

Many Americans would protest with an Awwwww, Come on!. If you are one of those Americans who  chooses to laugh off the absurd scenario of a similar &quot;Islamic bomb&quot; attack on the great Satan USA, here is food for thought. True, we Americans can, in a blink of an eye, turn Iranian plateau into a sea of radioactive glass and true, the Mullahs are well aware of what we can do to them.But keep this in mind: The Messianic Muslim preachers would welcome that possibility.Mutual death and destruction for Muslim preachers are incentives not deterrents.

Evil?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stalin, Goebbels, Ahmadinejad&#8230;</p>
<p>Ahmadinejad hasn&#8217;t yet earned his deserved place in pantheon of evil. Not for lack of trying though.A procession of Islamic leaders before him, have frankly admitted desire to wipe Israel off the map.Ahmadinejad is only the latest, but not the last of them.</p>
<p>A qualified Muslim jurist,Ayatollah Rafsanjani, who doubled as president and armed forces boss of the IRI, in a patrimonial comment aimed at global Muslim community once intoned:fulfill your destiny! actively reach for the know how, the manufacture, and the means of delivering the A-Bomb.</p>
<p>The Ayatollah then gave a surreal calculus reminiscent of one delivered by George C Scott&#8217;s SAC general Buck Turgidson in the movie Dr. Strangelove:</p>
<p> &#8220;If Israel should attack the Muslim community using her nuclear arsenal, she may kill 50 million Muslim, 75 million tops!. The numbers favor Muslim community which will survive the trauma. But if we Muslims successfully nuke Israel only once, Israel and the Jews cannot survive the outcome, Allah Be Praised.&#8221;</p>
<p>The movie and the general were fantasy. Rafsanjani then and Ahmadinejad now are reality.</p>
<p>Many Americans would protest with an Awwwww, Come on!. If you are one of those Americans who  chooses to laugh off the absurd scenario of a similar &#8220;Islamic bomb&#8221; attack on the great Satan USA, here is food for thought. True, we Americans can, in a blink of an eye, turn Iranian plateau into a sea of radioactive glass and true, the Mullahs are well aware of what we can do to them.But keep this in mind: The Messianic Muslim preachers would welcome that possibility.Mutual death and destruction for Muslim preachers are incentives not deterrents.</p>
<p>Evil?!</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 02:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[parker, 6:53 pm -- &quot;Actually, I can define evil very simply.  Evil is any ideology that sees individuals as members of a group, not as an individual, and promotes the idea that each of us, all 6 billion, is not sovereign.&quot;

Sez M J R, what you describe is an ^attribute^ of evil (there are others, no?) rather than a ^definition^ of evil.  But who&#039;s counting?  [smile]

parker, 8:24 pm -- &quot;This is the heart and soul of the left, they do not want to be independent of the herd. The herd is everything to them. As long as they are surrounded by the herd they know they are ‘right’ with Gaia. They are incapable of independent thought.&quot;

I just hope and pray that nothing analogous applies to my (our) side.  &#039;Cause I&#039;ve known right-leaning people who never struck me as people who ^really^ thought for themselves, but who did have a favored world-view (rightie) and needed emotional support from other righties.  Not that that&#039;s evil [so to speak -- see above [smile]], but I do not see that righties are uniformly given to independent thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parker, 6:53 pm &#8212; &#8220;Actually, I can define evil very simply.  Evil is any ideology that sees individuals as members of a group, not as an individual, and promotes the idea that each of us, all 6 billion, is not sovereign.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sez M J R, what you describe is an ^attribute^ of evil (there are others, no?) rather than a ^definition^ of evil.  But who&#8217;s counting?  [smile]</p>
<p>parker, 8:24 pm &#8212; &#8220;This is the heart and soul of the left, they do not want to be independent of the herd. The herd is everything to them. As long as they are surrounded by the herd they know they are ‘right’ with Gaia. They are incapable of independent thought.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just hope and pray that nothing analogous applies to my (our) side.  &#8216;Cause I&#8217;ve known right-leaning people who never struck me as people who ^really^ thought for themselves, but who did have a favored world-view (rightie) and needed emotional support from other righties.  Not that that&#8217;s evil [so to speak &#8212; see above [smile]], but I do not see that righties are uniformly given to independent thought.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 01:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;They want someone to be in charge and tell them what to do.&quot;

This is the heart and soul of the left, they do not want to be independent of the herd. The herd is everything to them.  As long as they are surrounded by the herd they know they are &#039;right&#039; with Gaia. They are incapable of independent thought.  They are the ones who mindlessly, via the barrel of a gun, herd the &#039;others&quot; into the cattle cars destined to the ovens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They want someone to be in charge and tell them what to do.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the heart and soul of the left, they do not want to be independent of the herd. The herd is everything to them.  As long as they are surrounded by the herd they know they are &#8216;right&#8217; with Gaia. They are incapable of independent thought.  They are the ones who mindlessly, via the barrel of a gun, herd the &#8216;others&#8221; into the cattle cars destined to the ovens.</p>
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