I read the material at your links. I spent two days writing and rewriting a reply, so I gave it up. Too lengthy and argumentative. I don’t want to argue.

I’m of several minds about those articles and your interpretation of voting numbers. Like, this whole election was ubiquitously anomalous in my mind, all of it, before, the election itself, and the ongoing aftermath. By before I’m referring to the wildly offbase assessments and projections by many. What was that? Which leads to the aftermath, all the spinning and hand-wringing, which is still evolving. I seeyour links in that context. For instance, Ralph Reed has no motivation to profess anyone’s failure in getting out the evangelical vote. Particularly not in THIS election. Self-survival and all that. Enough said about that for brevity’s sake. But, I live in that particular community, admittedly in a very blue state (almost as blue as MA), but anecdotally I personally know or have been in contact with many evangelicals who have given up on voting until further notice. Not a majority of them, but a quite sizeable minority. I suspect they’ve “fallen off the grid” and aren’t m included in anybody’s numbers.

The actual election numbers are what they are. And will be interpreted numerous ways. But to my mind turnout was down, even though the population grew and voting-age population grew. Who stayed home? More ongoing slicing and dicing of the numbers ensues no doubt. Bottom-line, we don’t know or understand this electorate right now.

And that’s not even getting to election fraud. I am afraid we all may be woefully underestimating the extent to which leftist partisans have rigged the system, especially in inner cities, and some other locales as well.

I have developed a prejudice that views anyone who cannot seem to grasp the reality that seems so obvious as flawed; and I have less and less tolerance for them.

I know that there is such a flood of information that it takes an effort to separate the germane from the trivial. I will confess that apparently due to the pace of their lives and the competition for their attention, there are members of my own family who are tuned out to many issues that I consider critical. I do not think they are fools, even though some of their political positions are foolish. .

I have not given up on influencing some of those within my sphere; I am sure you will continue to try as well. (Looking to the future, I am working hard on my 16 year old twin grandchildren, but that is a task fraught with obstacles and potential missteps.)

you see, the difference is that evil needs people to think like this, in order to conquer the human spirit. When it’s a choice between Good and Evil, most people will side with Good. They don’t say, “well, we’re the worst people on Earth, and that’s why we’re going to fight and kill and sacrifice for the cause”. That’s not how people think.

By eliminating differences, we get to the ourobos, or the snake eating its own tail. The sources of production is the same as the material input. Welfare comes from the people’s pocket, and goes back into the people’s pocket. It was always an icon of infinity, but also mutual contradiction, like a utopia, a place that doesn’t exist. The snake circle that exists because of itself, because it is the one it was waiting for, represents a philosophical concept that is anti and opposite to good and evil, +/-, male and female. The concept that the ying and yang has flaws and fulfills the other’s weak points by their own individual strengths, so that the whole is greater than the sum of its part, is not compatible with the concept of mutual self digestion and infinite sustainability through welfare and government largess.

The Left seeks to create their own god on earth, a ruling theocracy. The fact that many people don’t even want to know about this, is the primary problem at hand.

“It was conservatives staying home on election day that allowed Obama to skate through.”

You’re under the impression that the elections results weren’t doctored to fit the result the LEft wanted. All those military absentee votes that didn’t show up. all those fake and dead voter registrations out of the urban Ohio corrupt heart land fiefdoms. The idea that the Left has a weapon and won’t use it to win, is similar to the idea that the Democrats are just another political party, just like the Republicans.

The concept that one is at war, will require a supreme amount of sacrifice, such as 9/11, before people are forced to open their eyes and see what they have ignored for their entire lives.

I don’t have time to give an exhaustive list of links that show it, but see this and this, for example:

“Evangelicals turned out in record numbers and voted as heavily for Mitt Romney yesterday as they did for George W. Bush in 2004,” said Ralph Reed, chairman of Faith and Freedom Coalition. “That is an astonishing outcome that few would have predicted even a few months ago. But Romney underperformed with younger voters and minorities and that in the end made the difference for Obama.”

Elections tend to spawn a lot of myths. The missing evangelical voters are just that, a myth. It was speculated before the election that they would stay home, but they did not.

In fact, fewer Republicans in general stayed home than was earlier thought, as well. As I said earlier, Romney got a lot more votes than McCain. The only state where stay-at-home Republicans may have made a difference was Ohio, where quite a few stayed home. Speculation is that it was in connection with labor and economic issues, and some statements Romney had made about GM and the bailout.

You said AFRICOM covers that area and had planes waiting to respond in minutes. It was reported that when AFRICOM Commander Gen. Ham received the reports of the attack at Benghazi, he immediately got a rapid response team ready to go, and communicated that decision to the Pentagon. The Pentagon told him to stand down. He told them to screw it, and that he was going to help anyway. Within 30 seconds, his second-in-command apprehended him and told him he was relieved of his command.

I can only surmise that either the gunship was never deployed, or if it was on station, the crew was ordered not to fire.

Woods and Doherty died believing that their country would not let them down, that the gunship was up there and would take out the mortars.

I’m not so sure about Heaven, but I hope there’s a Hell.

Maybe you have other sources showing other data, but my understanding is somewhere between 3 and 5 million conservatives stayed home. Mainly social conservatives, evangelical conservatives in particular, are the ones who didn’t vote. Romney was perceived by many to be a squishy flip-flopping political opportunist who’d take whatever position he calculated to be helpful vote-wise. Don’t you remember way back in the contentious primary season all those conservatives who declared, “If Romney is the nominee, I won’t vote”? Well, they didn’t. And McCain in 2008 is a poor comparison because conservatives didn’t like him all that much either, and they stayed home in 2008 too.

And that’s not even getting to or considering the Mormon factor, which is hard to measure, but intuitively it’s hard to dismiss.

First of all, not that many conservatives stayed home, comparatively speaking (see the final totals; Romney got a million more votes than McCain did in 2008). And the ones who did stay home stayed home for different reasons (IMHO), not because they didn’t have enough info about bad stuff Obama was doing in both domestic and foreign affairs. They had plenty. They stayed home because they were angry at the Republican “establishment” and Romney, and/or because they think both parties are alike (a notion resistant to more information about Democrats being bad; they already know that), and/or because they want the Democrats to be in charge and to get the blame when the supposedly inevitable financial conflagration comes.

The right had MORE than enough information to motivate them to get off their duffs already. If someone on the right didn’t vote in this election with the info about Obama that they already had, no more information about him would have caused them to do so.

Occam’s Beard beat me to it but what he said bears repeating:

“The operative word there is “our.” Members of their tribe were doing just fine, so no problem.”

Their tribe is the one whose members spend their lives running for office, seeking ever-more power and getting themselves elected by whatever means necessary. They hold everyone else — especially people like the ones who died — in utter contempt.

“It was a disgusting video that we had NOTHING to do with”. Contempt for us all, indeed.