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		By: Julianna		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/01/17/obama-the-left-and-the-bitter-clingers/#comment-507156</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julianna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 06:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just found this blog.  It&#039;s good for us to understand how leftist think.  When Bloomberg said in response to suggestions that there should be guards or armed teachers:  I don&#039;t see how another gun would have helped the situation (at Sandy Hook).  I wasn&#039;t surprised.  It&#039;s like the left is gaslighting people, expecting them to believe absolutely ludicrous things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just found this blog.  It&#8217;s good for us to understand how leftist think.  When Bloomberg said in response to suggestions that there should be guards or armed teachers:  I don&#8217;t see how another gun would have helped the situation (at Sandy Hook).  I wasn&#8217;t surprised.  It&#8217;s like the left is gaslighting people, expecting them to believe absolutely ludicrous things.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/01/17/obama-the-left-and-the-bitter-clingers/#comment-506396</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 05:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe I need guns now a days to apply lethal force. It&#039;s also easier to get through metal detectors without one.

The issue is, if they think they can &quot;disarm&quot; certain segments of the population by just guns, they don&#039;t quite realize some of the recent advances made in martial science and H2H combat research in America.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe I need guns now a days to apply lethal force. It&#8217;s also easier to get through metal detectors without one.</p>
<p>The issue is, if they think they can &#8220;disarm&#8221; certain segments of the population by just guns, they don&#8217;t quite realize some of the recent advances made in martial science and H2H combat research in America.</p>
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		By: thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/01/17/obama-the-left-and-the-bitter-clingers/#comment-506325</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow... I&#039;ve been watching the .223 ammo market. Before the gun talk you could buy 1000 rounds for around $250. Then it started.. It was at $1000 for awhile (you could find ammo for a $1 a round if you looked hard) and I noticed it jumping up to $1500 for 1000 today.... and selling for it / people are paying it. As of now I just saw it in stock and offered for $2000 per 1000... but I have not seen it sell for that yet...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230; I&#8217;ve been watching the .223 ammo market. Before the gun talk you could buy 1000 rounds for around $250. Then it started.. It was at $1000 for awhile (you could find ammo for a $1 a round if you looked hard) and I noticed it jumping up to $1500 for 1000 today&#8230;. and selling for it / people are paying it. As of now I just saw it in stock and offered for $2000 per 1000&#8230; but I have not seen it sell for that yet&#8230;</p>
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		By: thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/01/17/obama-the-left-and-the-bitter-clingers/#comment-506321</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 02:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DonS Says: 

&quot;In a rebellion it isn’t quite a matter of “tanks vs guns”.&quot;

That and I&#039;ll add the tanks vs guns thing is a CW cliché. Various people have fought tanks with guns* and improvised weapons and won / taken out tanks. 

* a tracer round to the right part a German tank was an effective attack...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DonS Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;In a rebellion it isn’t quite a matter of “tanks vs guns”.&#8221;</p>
<p>That and I&#8217;ll add the tanks vs guns thing is a CW cliché. Various people have fought tanks with guns* and improvised weapons and won / taken out tanks. </p>
<p>* a tracer round to the right part a German tank was an effective attack&#8230;</p>
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		By: DonS		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/01/17/obama-the-left-and-the-bitter-clingers/#comment-506039</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DonS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a rebellion it isn&#039;t quite a matter of &quot;tanks vs guns&quot;. Yes, there might be instances of that, as it stands the domestic military is hardly in a position to engage the American people, and many of them probably wouldn&#039;t do so anyway. 

As I&#039;ve previously stated, I don&#039;t think the real motive is disarming us so we can&#039;t rise up, rather I think it is an attack on our culture. They want to create a culture of dependence. 

But the idea that the US military could prevent a popular uprising is false, particularly in the manner it currently exists. Mexico&#039;s military is designed primarly to control their popularion, the US military isn&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a rebellion it isn&#8217;t quite a matter of &#8220;tanks vs guns&#8221;. Yes, there might be instances of that, as it stands the domestic military is hardly in a position to engage the American people, and many of them probably wouldn&#8217;t do so anyway. </p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve previously stated, I don&#8217;t think the real motive is disarming us so we can&#8217;t rise up, rather I think it is an attack on our culture. They want to create a culture of dependence. </p>
<p>But the idea that the US military could prevent a popular uprising is false, particularly in the manner it currently exists. Mexico&#8217;s military is designed primarly to control their popularion, the US military isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/01/17/obama-the-left-and-the-bitter-clingers/#comment-505951</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[holmes Says: 

&quot;I think armed conflict is just a fantasy that many on the right are engaged in. Things aren’t quite that dire, but they are not comfortable either.&quot;

People are saying they won&#039;t turn in their guns. If they mean it (and some do) there will be conflict. If others step in to defend people refusing to comply.. it will escalate. Simple as that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holmes Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;I think armed conflict is just a fantasy that many on the right are engaged in. Things aren’t quite that dire, but they are not comfortable either.&#8221;</p>
<p>People are saying they won&#8217;t turn in their guns. If they mean it (and some do) there will be conflict. If others step in to defend people refusing to comply.. it will escalate. Simple as that.</p>
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		By: holmes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think armed conflict is just a fantasy that many on the right are engaged in.   Things aren&#039;t quite that dire, but they are not comfortable either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think armed conflict is just a fantasy that many on the right are engaged in.   Things aren&#8217;t quite that dire, but they are not comfortable either.</p>
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		By: thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/01/17/obama-the-left-and-the-bitter-clingers/#comment-505916</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[parker Says: 

&quot;BTW, if some DC goon squad monitors neo’s blog&quot;

They&#039;re probably more interested in those talking about rebellion or active resistance (re: sabotage). 

Still; so many people probably ended up on that list that it gave the politicians pause....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>parker Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;BTW, if some DC goon squad monitors neo’s blog&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re probably more interested in those talking about rebellion or active resistance (re: sabotage). </p>
<p>Still; so many people probably ended up on that list that it gave the politicians pause&#8230;.</p>
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		By: thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/01/17/obama-the-left-and-the-bitter-clingers/#comment-505903</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 15:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[all the hate directed to non leftists just makes us cling more... since we are worried about our personal safety. They want us to give up our weapons and they hate us. Hmmm...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all the hate directed to non leftists just makes us cling more&#8230; since we are worried about our personal safety. They want us to give up our weapons and they hate us. Hmmm&#8230;</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/01/17/obama-the-left-and-the-bitter-clingers/#comment-505862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2013 13:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read a lot of the conservative sites, and everywhere, even at the RINO-tainted NRO, the comment level is rising regarding armed resistance.   

The one caveat, which others have pointed out, is that Obama may actually be trying to provoke a confrontation in order to declare martial law and thus set himself up as dictator.  One salient comment noted (and it was a good metaphor for me :-)    )  that what is needed is a critical mass.  Below that the nuclear reaction fizzles.  The commenter cautioned that we must reach that critical mass or then the govenrment will hold the upper hand as the revolt fizzles.

Scary times when 40% of the population seems to be getting ready for armed conflict with its own government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read a lot of the conservative sites, and everywhere, even at the RINO-tainted NRO, the comment level is rising regarding armed resistance.   </p>
<p>The one caveat, which others have pointed out, is that Obama may actually be trying to provoke a confrontation in order to declare martial law and thus set himself up as dictator.  One salient comment noted (and it was a good metaphor for me 🙂    )  that what is needed is a critical mass.  Below that the nuclear reaction fizzles.  The commenter cautioned that we must reach that critical mass or then the govenrment will hold the upper hand as the revolt fizzles.</p>
<p>Scary times when 40% of the population seems to be getting ready for armed conflict with its own government.</p>
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