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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[apply this to germany befor the jews were exterminated

on the night of crystal nacht, would you have tried to claim some form of positive participation by noting how hitler was and thats it? 

you see... prior to the end result, you can imagine it wont be and someone else will hepl and so on. 

thats why eveyone stands around and watches someone bleed to death rather than help

but i dont think you and others realize thta the game is completely over. 

in fact i am SURE of it givne the commentary

the state has bought enough bullets to put five shells into each of us.
the military uses 70 million shells in a war
homeland security bought 1.5 billion

who do you th ink they are going to use that on? 
they are domestic....

and what about those FEMA camps now? you know, the ones with the pre digged mass graves that everyone said wasnt what it was? 

AFTER the fact, like the germans, people will wonder how it happened. and no one will sit there and confess... i noted it, but did really nothing that mattered...  until it was way too late.. 

i did my part. 
the game is over. 
my family is gone... eternally
millions of others are also gone... eternally

and demographics is going to make sure of it all...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apply this to germany befor the jews were exterminated</p>
<p>on the night of crystal nacht, would you have tried to claim some form of positive participation by noting how hitler was and thats it? </p>
<p>you see&#8230; prior to the end result, you can imagine it wont be and someone else will hepl and so on. </p>
<p>thats why eveyone stands around and watches someone bleed to death rather than help</p>
<p>but i dont think you and others realize thta the game is completely over. </p>
<p>in fact i am SURE of it givne the commentary</p>
<p>the state has bought enough bullets to put five shells into each of us.<br />
the military uses 70 million shells in a war<br />
homeland security bought 1.5 billion</p>
<p>who do you th ink they are going to use that on?<br />
they are domestic&#8230;.</p>
<p>and what about those FEMA camps now? you know, the ones with the pre digged mass graves that everyone said wasnt what it was? </p>
<p>AFTER the fact, like the germans, people will wonder how it happened. and no one will sit there and confess&#8230; i noted it, but did really nothing that mattered&#8230;  until it was way too late.. </p>
<p>i did my part.<br />
the game is over.<br />
my family is gone&#8230; eternally<br />
millions of others are also gone&#8230; eternally</p>
<p>and demographics is going to make sure of it all&#8230;</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
I know that, long before I began this blog–certainly at least 20 years ago and probably even ten years earlier than that–I saw that in education and hiring and many other arenas, special interest groups (all the things in this post, and much more) were BIG problems. I observed myself how it was that entrenched PC institutionalized feminism was a problem in the school system, due to certain incidents I personally observed that were shocking and made a deep impression on me. And I certainly see what’s happened to the family, and have written about it, as well.

And I was against affirmative action the first time I ever heard of it. The dangers were clear; two wrongs do not make a right.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

glad you noted it.. 

now wha did you do for 30 years since they guys could do nothing and it woudl take the women who noted it to get up and do something.. 

did you? 

no... and no one else did.. 

so thats my point... 
men have rescued women for thousands of years dying for strangers women and children... 

women? not so much.. 

so the one time that the men needed the women who NOTED things... where were they?  absent.. waiting... too afraid of the other women...   sad on the side hoping it would all turn out? 

well ya got what ya worked for
and thats my beef.

a person gets hit by a car bleeding on the floor
and you didnt stop to help, but you noted it 

the issue is you dont get how much you and others who saw and noted things, stood on the sidelines and let it all happen... 

and now... when the fit hits the shan... 
then what? you gonna stand shoulder to shoulder or just sit out and note the end result? 

ergo.. 
way back when i said we would not survive this
because i KNEW and KNOW the people we depend on this time in history... 

will let mankind down.. 

every woman that noted it, but did not act let mankind down, or else they expected men to save them... either way... not this time.. 

oh. by the way
the left selected women as their main group because they knew that women woudl let mankind down... 

otherwise, if women wouldnt, were would all their plans and efforts go?  to naught. 

they picked well... 
and they won
now we get to die early from obama care, higher taxes, higher crime, maybe a civil war, and bone breaking poverty

but as i said.
not my problem any more. 
i am just killing time till time kills me 
as i have no other options

so i dont have to be polite or pc, or anything like that
i can call the kettle black and thats that. 

and the kettle just sat there noting the world
and letting it go to shit with all the others mankind depended on.

and if you dont think so, just think of what the world will become in 100 years with no free country or people who believed in it and willing to ACT

most revolutions succceed becuase the key people who have to act, wont act..  
and there is nothing the others can do. 

end of story
it was over before it started because the subjects selected were selected because they always fail. 

if you don&#039;t think so... 

point to one society in history that was that way and lasted long enough to even be remembered

and remember... they basically fought their mates and hated them to self exterminated, pulled their thumbs out of their arses and said, what a good grrrrl am i..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
I know that, long before I began this blog–certainly at least 20 years ago and probably even ten years earlier than that–I saw that in education and hiring and many other arenas, special interest groups (all the things in this post, and much more) were BIG problems. I observed myself how it was that entrenched PC institutionalized feminism was a problem in the school system, due to certain incidents I personally observed that were shocking and made a deep impression on me. And I certainly see what’s happened to the family, and have written about it, as well.</p>
<p>And I was against affirmative action the first time I ever heard of it. The dangers were clear; two wrongs do not make a right.</p></blockquote>
<p>glad you noted it.. </p>
<p>now wha did you do for 30 years since they guys could do nothing and it woudl take the women who noted it to get up and do something.. </p>
<p>did you? </p>
<p>no&#8230; and no one else did.. </p>
<p>so thats my point&#8230;<br />
men have rescued women for thousands of years dying for strangers women and children&#8230; </p>
<p>women? not so much.. </p>
<p>so the one time that the men needed the women who NOTED things&#8230; where were they?  absent.. waiting&#8230; too afraid of the other women&#8230;   sad on the side hoping it would all turn out? </p>
<p>well ya got what ya worked for<br />
and thats my beef.</p>
<p>a person gets hit by a car bleeding on the floor<br />
and you didnt stop to help, but you noted it </p>
<p>the issue is you dont get how much you and others who saw and noted things, stood on the sidelines and let it all happen&#8230; </p>
<p>and now&#8230; when the fit hits the shan&#8230;<br />
then what? you gonna stand shoulder to shoulder or just sit out and note the end result? </p>
<p>ergo..<br />
way back when i said we would not survive this<br />
because i KNEW and KNOW the people we depend on this time in history&#8230; </p>
<p>will let mankind down.. </p>
<p>every woman that noted it, but did not act let mankind down, or else they expected men to save them&#8230; either way&#8230; not this time.. </p>
<p>oh. by the way<br />
the left selected women as their main group because they knew that women woudl let mankind down&#8230; </p>
<p>otherwise, if women wouldnt, were would all their plans and efforts go?  to naught. </p>
<p>they picked well&#8230;<br />
and they won<br />
now we get to die early from obama care, higher taxes, higher crime, maybe a civil war, and bone breaking poverty</p>
<p>but as i said.<br />
not my problem any more.<br />
i am just killing time till time kills me<br />
as i have no other options</p>
<p>so i dont have to be polite or pc, or anything like that<br />
i can call the kettle black and thats that. </p>
<p>and the kettle just sat there noting the world<br />
and letting it go to shit with all the others mankind depended on.</p>
<p>and if you dont think so, just think of what the world will become in 100 years with no free country or people who believed in it and willing to ACT</p>
<p>most revolutions succceed becuase the key people who have to act, wont act..<br />
and there is nothing the others can do. </p>
<p>end of story<br />
it was over before it started because the subjects selected were selected because they always fail. </p>
<p>if you don&#8217;t think so&#8230; </p>
<p>point to one society in history that was that way and lasted long enough to even be remembered</p>
<p>and remember&#8230; they basically fought their mates and hated them to self exterminated, pulled their thumbs out of their arses and said, what a good grrrrl am i..</p>
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		By: Bob From Virginia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 19:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something keeps resonating inside my brain; the Soviet Union taught how wonderful their system was for 70 years and almost completely blocked competing views, yet the whole pyramid of lies  could not prevent collapse once the people no longer feared the terror apparatus of their government.  

If the lies did not work under those conditions how can they be expected to work here?  The average student need only know his family history to know the worthlessness of PC.  What is far more frightening is that masses surrender all interest in the truth just so people can feel fashionable, which is to say sexy.  The Obama cult has seized the fashion high ground.  Read the latest at the Rubin Report for this week&#039;s example: 

http://rubinreports.blogspot.com/2013/01/mystery-solved-why-are-some-liberals.html

Hopefully the next generations teenage rebellion will attack the problem.  Being poor and less free should give them a better understanding of the problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something keeps resonating inside my brain; the Soviet Union taught how wonderful their system was for 70 years and almost completely blocked competing views, yet the whole pyramid of lies  could not prevent collapse once the people no longer feared the terror apparatus of their government.  </p>
<p>If the lies did not work under those conditions how can they be expected to work here?  The average student need only know his family history to know the worthlessness of PC.  What is far more frightening is that masses surrender all interest in the truth just so people can feel fashionable, which is to say sexy.  The Obama cult has seized the fashion high ground.  Read the latest at the Rubin Report for this week&#8217;s example: </p>
<p><a href="http://rubinreports.blogspot.com/2013/01/mystery-solved-why-are-some-liberals.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://rubinreports.blogspot.com/2013/01/mystery-solved-why-are-some-liberals.html</a></p>
<p>Hopefully the next generations teenage rebellion will attack the problem.  Being poor and less free should give them a better understanding of the problem.</p>
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		By: IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States and some Canadian provinces		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;So PC courses will probably stay, unfortunately. They’re the academic equivalent of the “Obamapho’.”&lt;/i&gt;

Do keep in mind, however, that the entire notion of &quot;college&quot; is under fire at the moment. Change is afoot, and that&#039;s where conservatives and libertarians ought to be working diligently to prevent/discourage a simple transliteration from physical studies to virtual studies of the Bogus Agenda.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>So PC courses will probably stay, unfortunately. They’re the academic equivalent of the “Obamapho’.”</i></p>
<p>Do keep in mind, however, that the entire notion of &#8220;college&#8221; is under fire at the moment. Change is afoot, and that&#8217;s where conservatives and libertarians ought to be working diligently to prevent/discourage a simple transliteration from physical studies to virtual studies of the Bogus Agenda.</p>
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		By: Smock Puppet, 10th Dan Snark Master and Accidental Death And Dismemberment Promoter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;The dangers were clear; two wrongs do not make a right.&lt;/i&gt;

But, strangely enough, Two Wrongs do often point to The Left.

:oD]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>The dangers were clear; two wrongs do not make a right.</i></p>
<p>But, strangely enough, Two Wrongs do often point to The Left.</p>
<p>:oD</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo:&lt;i&gt;the PC fluff courses will the the first to go. &lt;/i&gt;[the first courses]

Occam’s Beard:

  &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; No, I fear they won’t be, for several reasons.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are correct that those teaching the PC fluff courses will put up a big stink when they get the pink slips, making it tougher to get rid of those courses and their teachers. Regarding the ideological makeup of many administrators and professors: ditto. [Pink slips for pinkos... :) ]

However, the cleaning up of the mess from the burst education bubble may well give administrators the gumption to finish the job. For one thing, the first to go in the campaign to reduce university costs will not be the PC fluff courses and their teachers, but administrators, as the administration cohort has increased faster than students. An undue proportion of administrators who will be let go will be those involved in “administering” all the PC programs at universities.

Those administrators who remain will have little sympathy for those professors who want to preserve their own little pieces of academic turf. After all, the administration cohort will have been gutted before professors, and in greater proportion. My estimate is that universities could get by with half the administrators they have. Professors will not be let go in such proportions. 

Those administrators with queasy stomachs when it comes to discharging curriculum and professors will simply get the message from their higher ups: “If you don’t have the guts to get rid of these courses and people, we will get rid of YOU and find someone else who does.”  [At least that is how it works in the profit-making sector.]

Another reason this will be difficult is, in addition to the ideological component that Occam&#039;s Beard has pointed out, is that there will be an undue proportion of minorities and women in the useless administrative positions - created in the last 40 years to enforce PC mandates- and in teaching the PC fluff courses. It might be better to simply give them ten years&#039; salary or some such golden parachute.

Time will tell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo:<i>the PC fluff courses will the the first to go. </i>[the first courses]</p>
<p>Occam’s Beard:</p>
<blockquote><p><i> No, I fear they won’t be, for several reasons.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>You are correct that those teaching the PC fluff courses will put up a big stink when they get the pink slips, making it tougher to get rid of those courses and their teachers. Regarding the ideological makeup of many administrators and professors: ditto. [Pink slips for pinkos&#8230; 🙂 ]</p>
<p>However, the cleaning up of the mess from the burst education bubble may well give administrators the gumption to finish the job. For one thing, the first to go in the campaign to reduce university costs will not be the PC fluff courses and their teachers, but administrators, as the administration cohort has increased faster than students. An undue proportion of administrators who will be let go will be those involved in “administering” all the PC programs at universities.</p>
<p>Those administrators who remain will have little sympathy for those professors who want to preserve their own little pieces of academic turf. After all, the administration cohort will have been gutted before professors, and in greater proportion. My estimate is that universities could get by with half the administrators they have. Professors will not be let go in such proportions. </p>
<p>Those administrators with queasy stomachs when it comes to discharging curriculum and professors will simply get the message from their higher ups: “If you don’t have the guts to get rid of these courses and people, we will get rid of YOU and find someone else who does.”  [At least that is how it works in the profit-making sector.]</p>
<p>Another reason this will be difficult is, in addition to the ideological component that Occam&#8217;s Beard has pointed out, is that there will be an undue proportion of minorities and women in the useless administrative positions &#8211; created in the last 40 years to enforce PC mandates- and in teaching the PC fluff courses. It might be better to simply give them ten years&#8217; salary or some such golden parachute.</p>
<p>Time will tell.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok - new college semester starts tomorrow in Texas for the youngest son. US History up to 1865 is the course.  What&#039;s one  required text book? A tome covering current political topics and discussion. 
The agenda of these guys is predictable.  They will teach US history, but only if they can frame it in the context of today&#039;s political correctness and moral superiority.  If only our predecessors were as smart as us, things wouldnt be the horrible mess they are today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok &#8211; new college semester starts tomorrow in Texas for the youngest son. US History up to 1865 is the course.  What&#8217;s one  required text book? A tome covering current political topics and discussion.<br />
The agenda of these guys is predictable.  They will teach US history, but only if they can frame it in the context of today&#8217;s political correctness and moral superiority.  If only our predecessors were as smart as us, things wouldnt be the horrible mess they are today.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 01:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}}} &lt;i&gt;Those were the big two at the beginning, and now no doubt there are many more.&lt;/i&gt;

I want to study Asian Lesbians, but so far, the only courses of study I&#039;ve found are on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dmm.co.jp/en/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Japanese videos&lt;/a&gt;.
;-)

Anyone up for a colloqium on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/coupling/episodes/s1ep4.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lesbian Spank Inferno&lt;/a&gt;? :-D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}}} <i>Those were the big two at the beginning, and now no doubt there are many more.</i></p>
<p>I want to study Asian Lesbians, but so far, the only courses of study I&#8217;ve found are on <a href="http://www.dmm.co.jp/en/" rel="nofollow">Japanese videos</a>.<br />
😉</p>
<p>Anyone up for a colloqium on <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/coupling/episodes/s1ep4.shtml" rel="nofollow">Lesbian Spank Inferno</a>? 😀</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I second what Willa said.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 18:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget that teachers have been trained by these &quot;studies&quot; prof, so they are taking the message down to first graders. Remember that Bill Ayres recommends using basic arithmetic courses to incorporate lessons about fairness.

Maybe we need a set of books or websites for teens about things your teachers don&#039;t want you to know. Play to teen rebellion. My high school geometry teacher was really dumb, and the greatest delight of our class was in working out theorums in advance so we could show her up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that teachers have been trained by these &#8220;studies&#8221; prof, so they are taking the message down to first graders. Remember that Bill Ayres recommends using basic arithmetic courses to incorporate lessons about fairness.</p>
<p>Maybe we need a set of books or websites for teens about things your teachers don&#8217;t want you to know. Play to teen rebellion. My high school geometry teacher was really dumb, and the greatest delight of our class was in working out theorums in advance so we could show her up.</p>
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