The National Guard had no qualms whatsoever following orders to confiscate, by force and via breaking down doors if necessary, law abiding citizens lawfully owned and 2A protected firearms — leaving them with the choice of either fleeing or being at the mercy of the threat of looters. Unconstitutional, and in most instances (including a video where they wrestled some 90 pound little old lady down to the ground, IN HER kitchen, to grab her revolver from her) totally unnecessary.

For every “oath keeper,” I would wager there are no less than several dozen who will just follow orders. Especially in a S hits the fan martial law/power outage/food shortage situation. The men in uniform will act in their own personal best interests – which for indviduals, is likely to mean – following orders. That chow line full of food, ain’t open for the renegade who just deserted because he loves the Constitution. Neither do his paycheck and medical care continue for himself and his off-base housed wife and 2 kids. Who will become homeless and penniless as punishment. An indefinite stay, without the benefit of counsel or a trial, in a Gitmo camp will be in his future, however, when he gets caught, or a bullet in his head if he is not.

I remember seeing a made for t.v. movie in the 80’s about the aftermath of a nuclear war with Russia – I think it was called The Day After or something. One of the scenes showed civilians lining up for food behind an Army truck, with the soldiers handing it out. I remember turning to my wife and saying — if the S hits the fan like that, it looks like the ones who’ve got it made are the guys who are in charge of distributing the food, not the ones waiting in line for it.

“My Officer Corps USArmy (ret.) friends all tell me the Army is too imbued with the concept of civilian control that its officers will do whatever the C-in-C orders.”

Ditto the police.

“They didn’t know when they’d be getting anything back in stock, from magazines to rifles to pistols. Manufacturers were running full-bore, but couldn’t come close to keeping up with market demand. It wasn’t just the AR-15s, the AK-pattern rifles, the M1As, and the FALs that were sold out. It really hit me when I realized that the World War-era M1 Garands , M1 carbines, and Enfield .303s were gone, along with every last shell. Ubiquitous Mosin-Nagants–of which every gun store always seems to have 10-20–were gone. So was their ammo. Only a dust free space marked their passing. I’ve never seen anything like it.

Every weapon of military utility designed within the past 100+ years was gone. This isn’t a society stocking up on certain guns because they fear they may be banned. This is a society preparing for war.”

And while there will be millions who will become unwilling, reluctant, and unhappy instant felons, because they will quietly refuse to submit to orders requiring them to “turn in” their 30 round mag, or “register” their 9mm handgun with the Feds…….they won’t actually take to the streets and/or start an armed revolution, or get their state to push for succession – notwithstanding the fantasies of some conservative blog commentators.

Our only hope is that there are enough politicians who are sufficiently alarmed at the possibility (possibility, not certainty – nothing seems certain any more) of a groundswell political uprising of such a size that it will make the Tea Party movement seem like peanuts, if they permit registration etc., legislation pass….that they just nip this in the bud – in spite of all the deafening non-stop onslaught of HOWLING that will commence from the media.

It is just talk, and is actually probably dangerous talk. If the government comes after gun owners, it will be after unorganized gun owners. They will go for individuals initially, not citizen militias. It does not matter how many there are gun owners and guns there are in the country; individually they will be outnumbered and outgunned.

Even when they turn to the organized groups in Idaho, or other isolated locations, they will come with overwhelming force; and they will be relentless. Read Waco.

The efforts to abridge the constitution must first be defeated in the minds of the U.S. citizens; which will be difficult given the anti-gun propaganda machine. Then they must be defeated in the Legislatures, in the Congress and in the Courts.

And don’t for a minute trust guys like McCain or Lindsay Graham. The Beltway GOP guys are just as much a part of the “ruling class” as the Dems. The ruling class in Feudal societies does not like the peasants to be armed. Two sets of rules – one for them and one for the rest of us. David Gregory gets armed security at Sidwell Friends for HIS kids; but calls the Pres of NRA’s suggestion of armed security at schools “risible.” Why is nobody in the actual GOP (as opposed to conservative bloggers and writers) bringing this up on the house or senate floor? I think we all know why.

It also gives me no comfort when people (like Captains Quarters blog) say “the GOP will cease to exist” if gun legislation passes. Do the individuals in the GOP who will be bribed and given “pork” promises they can take home to their wealthy corporate donors care? What is the re-election rate of incumbants, regardless of the incompetance? 90+%?

People have to realize that this is no longer like 1994 or other similar periods, when insane legislation got floated. The Left is flush with victory and with power. The Left is the strong horse in DC right now.

They will now stop at nothing to complete what they started with Obamacare — which means the full transformation of our Country. We are within 5 years of having fully nationalized (and VERY rationed, for all but the elite, who will have separate medical plans) health care – Obamacare was designed to cause this to happen. The boiling frog approach – the peasants don’t know what hit them. And now it is too late. We blew our chance at getting it repealed. Our fate, as far as health care is concerned, has been sealed.

Next up – that pesky Second Amendment, standing in the way of totalitarian control. Same slowly boiled frog approach. Propose something outrageous (e.g, Feinstein). Then back off, and “compromise” and get the 20% they wanted all along, from the party of Stupid. Everyone bear hug and mug for the cameras and then go to a DC cocktail party. Rinse and repeat every few years.

Guns will not be overtly “grabbed.” Too many conservatives are just being “played.” Again. The Left will continue to implement incremental change (such as the proposed legislation that allows you to keep your gun, but NOT pass it along to your heirs!; or massive taxation/restrictions on ammunition, etc.), in order to achieve total disarmament in a matter of years, not months.

And some people (also now known as the powerless minority) will fuss, and holler and call and rant on talk radio, and write long screeds about succession, Texas this and Texas that, and Jefferson tree of liberty quote, and my cold dead hands blah blah blah blah ….and then…..guys like Lindsay Graham, and John McCain, and 90% of the rest of the traitors will get re-elected. Oh, there may be a successful primary challenge here or there – by somebody who will end up being marginalized as a “tea party extremist” or a “kook” or the Uncle Tom if he happens to be black; or a crazy/stupid white trash idiot if she happens to be an attractive social con female. And who will then be targeted heavily for defeat, if he/she appears to be gaining any sort of national traction….

Buckle up. It’s going to be a bumpy ride.