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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-492394</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Neo!

You are my secret outlet. Is it allowed ? :) I feel so naughty...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Neo!</p>
<p>You are my secret outlet. Is it allowed ? 🙂 I feel so naughty&#8230;</p>
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		By: Rachel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-490621</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama better enjoy it while it lasts. It won&#039;t be long before people will look to him to solve it and blaming someone else will not save him. If you look at the responses of the msm and local newspapers, there is not a lot of love for the pres.

He may be in the catbird seat, but no one I know, likes it. They know *they* will be the ones suffering while he plays golf. Even if the Reps give him everything he wants, O-care taxes are around the corner. And when people find out the real cost of their health care he will be where W was after Hurricane Katrina.

To me the public is more resigned than happy. They will blame Republicans, but there will be no praise for Obama.

People are still scared to say the First Black President is a failure, but I can guarantee many people think it. In fact, I&#039;ve started seeing more Dems criticize the president. Expect more since he&#039;s given his cronies a pay raise. That could be the beginning of the end of his popularity, esp if we have higher unemployment.

 And it&#039;s this enabling that has led America to be broke. No budget for FOUR YEARS??? Who gets away with that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama better enjoy it while it lasts. It won&#8217;t be long before people will look to him to solve it and blaming someone else will not save him. If you look at the responses of the msm and local newspapers, there is not a lot of love for the pres.</p>
<p>He may be in the catbird seat, but no one I know, likes it. They know *they* will be the ones suffering while he plays golf. Even if the Reps give him everything he wants, O-care taxes are around the corner. And when people find out the real cost of their health care he will be where W was after Hurricane Katrina.</p>
<p>To me the public is more resigned than happy. They will blame Republicans, but there will be no praise for Obama.</p>
<p>People are still scared to say the First Black President is a failure, but I can guarantee many people think it. In fact, I&#8217;ve started seeing more Dems criticize the president. Expect more since he&#8217;s given his cronies a pay raise. That could be the beginning of the end of his popularity, esp if we have higher unemployment.</p>
<p> And it&#8217;s this enabling that has led America to be broke. No budget for FOUR YEARS??? Who gets away with that?</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-489343</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Baklava: Congratulations!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baklava: Congratulations!!!!!!</p>
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		By: J.J. formerly Jimmy J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-489051</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J. formerly Jimmy J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, we are going down. I&#039;ve been  optimistic that we could change things around if our representatives in D.C would come to their senses. It is obvious they  haven&#039;t and won&#039;t until fiscal ruin  is upon us. 

It will not be a catastrophic thing for people who have assets and the will/ability to  move  them around. Those who have money assets, CDs, savings accounts, and the like will  see their assets dropped in half or worse. Most  bonds will depreciate by 50% or more. There will be many bankruptcies and joblesseness will rise.  We may see soup  kitchens again. It may set the scene for a dictator. The two things that will cushion the fall are our energy industry and our farms.  

I suggest that we will be like Argentina because, although a small country, they, like us, have all the resources (farms, minerals, oil/gas, educated workers, etc.) necessary to be well off. It&#039;s their government&#039;s socialistic  policies that have sunk them.  To read a countdown of what happened see this:  http://tinyurl.com/6eybev3

The politicians have proven that they only have  their best interests in mind.  Those who can should be preparing for an Argentinian-like default. 
Food, water, shelter, guns, real assets (farm land, gold, silver, junk silver coins,  ammo,  gold and  silver jewelry, etc.) I don&#039;t know how long it will take. Depends on whether Obama keeps sucking all the confidence out of the business world and when our debt is downgraded to below A. I hope it doesn&#039;t happen, but I&#039;m preparing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we are going down. I&#8217;ve been  optimistic that we could change things around if our representatives in D.C would come to their senses. It is obvious they  haven&#8217;t and won&#8217;t until fiscal ruin  is upon us. </p>
<p>It will not be a catastrophic thing for people who have assets and the will/ability to  move  them around. Those who have money assets, CDs, savings accounts, and the like will  see their assets dropped in half or worse. Most  bonds will depreciate by 50% or more. There will be many bankruptcies and joblesseness will rise.  We may see soup  kitchens again. It may set the scene for a dictator. The two things that will cushion the fall are our energy industry and our farms.  </p>
<p>I suggest that we will be like Argentina because, although a small country, they, like us, have all the resources (farms, minerals, oil/gas, educated workers, etc.) necessary to be well off. It&#8217;s their government&#8217;s socialistic  policies that have sunk them.  To read a countdown of what happened see this:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/6eybev3" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/6eybev3</a></p>
<p>The politicians have proven that they only have  their best interests in mind.  Those who can should be preparing for an Argentinian-like default.<br />
Food, water, shelter, guns, real assets (farm land, gold, silver, junk silver coins,  ammo,  gold and  silver jewelry, etc.) I don&#8217;t know how long it will take. Depends on whether Obama keeps sucking all the confidence out of the business world and when our debt is downgraded to below A. I hope it doesn&#8217;t happen, but I&#8217;m preparing.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-489044</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“Don’t be surprised, journalists, if many Americans view you as the enemy as a result. Don’t blame them. You’ve taken sides. When you act as agents for the apparat, don’t be shocked when people think of you as apparatchiks.”

-- Glenn Harlan Reynolds (&quot;Instapundit&quot;)

Our Advocacy-Obsessed Apparatchik MSM
Ed Driscoll
PJMedia.com
December 27th, 2012 - 4:19 pm

http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2012/12/27/our-apparatchik-msm/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Don’t be surprised, journalists, if many Americans view you as the enemy as a result. Don’t blame them. You’ve taken sides. When you act as agents for the apparat, don’t be shocked when people think of you as apparatchiks.”</p>
<p>&#8212; Glenn Harlan Reynolds (&#8220;Instapundit&#8221;)</p>
<p>Our Advocacy-Obsessed Apparatchik MSM<br />
Ed Driscoll<br />
PJMedia.com<br />
December 27th, 2012 &#8211; 4:19 pm</p>
<p><a href="http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2012/12/27/our-apparatchik-msm/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2012/12/27/our-apparatchik-msm/</a></p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-489017</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 04:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[run interference for the incumbent ^against^ the GOP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>run interference for the incumbent ^against^ the GOP.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-489015</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 04:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;[The incumbent] has supreme confidence that his PR is better than that of the GOP, and in this he is obviously and resoundingly correct.&quot;

Well, uhhh, yeah, it&#039;s real easy to have PR &quot;better than that of the GOP&quot; when the chief transmitters of that message to the citizenry -- the mainstream media -- are bullhorns for the incumbent and run interference for the GOP.

But we knew that already.

In addition, the GOP ain&#039;t known as the Stupid Party for nuthin&#039;.

But we knew that already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[The incumbent] has supreme confidence that his PR is better than that of the GOP, and in this he is obviously and resoundingly correct.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, uhhh, yeah, it&#8217;s real easy to have PR &#8220;better than that of the GOP&#8221; when the chief transmitters of that message to the citizenry &#8212; the mainstream media &#8212; are bullhorns for the incumbent and run interference for the GOP.</p>
<p>But we knew that already.</p>
<p>In addition, the GOP ain&#8217;t known as the Stupid Party for nuthin&#8217;.</p>
<p>But we knew that already.</p>
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		By: n.n		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-488898</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We have already jumped off the cliff.  At the moment, we are falling comfortably through the air.

It is only by virtue of unsustainable mitigating circumstances (e.g. illegal aliens, shifted environmental and labor disruption, redistributive change, devaluation of capital and labor) that we have not expressly realized the effects of the &quot;fiscal cliff.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have already jumped off the cliff.  At the moment, we are falling comfortably through the air.</p>
<p>It is only by virtue of unsustainable mitigating circumstances (e.g. illegal aliens, shifted environmental and labor disruption, redistributive change, devaluation of capital and labor) that we have not expressly realized the effects of the &#8220;fiscal cliff.&#8221;</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-488830</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hyperinflating the currency functions as an opiate on the polity.

That&#039;s why money printing always goes to the wall: political narcosis.

It&#039;s why hyperinflation got its name: magic money is entirely addictive.

As any therapist could tell you: the highly addicted begin treatment only after they&#039;ve hit the wall -- typically coming in blacked out.

Barry&#039;s stance assures us that we&#039;re in for the full ride.

He&#039;s innumerate, himself, as are many of our Senators and Congressmen.

This evolving dysfunction is a variation on what did in the Romans and the Greeks.

Its the kind of thing that takes down the proud -- even without losing a war.

Whereas people die of old age... representative governments can only die of insanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyperinflating the currency functions as an opiate on the polity.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why money printing always goes to the wall: political narcosis.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s why hyperinflation got its name: magic money is entirely addictive.</p>
<p>As any therapist could tell you: the highly addicted begin treatment only after they&#8217;ve hit the wall &#8212; typically coming in blacked out.</p>
<p>Barry&#8217;s stance assures us that we&#8217;re in for the full ride.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s innumerate, himself, as are many of our Senators and Congressmen.</p>
<p>This evolving dysfunction is a variation on what did in the Romans and the Greeks.</p>
<p>Its the kind of thing that takes down the proud &#8212; even without losing a war.</p>
<p>Whereas people die of old age&#8230; representative governments can only die of insanity.</p>
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		By: Mr. Frank		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/28/fiscal-cliff/#comment-488818</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reports out of Washington now say Obama is offering nothing new. He&#039;s in the catbird seat and knows it. The Republicans have no good leaders to fight the PR game. I&#039;m with Howard Dean on this cliff thing. Everyone&#039;s taxes have to go up to come even close to paying for the government we have. Maybe the Republicans could let people get whacked for a couple of months and then ask if smaller government is a good idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reports out of Washington now say Obama is offering nothing new. He&#8217;s in the catbird seat and knows it. The Republicans have no good leaders to fight the PR game. I&#8217;m with Howard Dean on this cliff thing. Everyone&#8217;s taxes have to go up to come even close to paying for the government we have. Maybe the Republicans could let people get whacked for a couple of months and then ask if smaller government is a good idea.</p>
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