The people you name are among those who see that a society that promotes individual freedom and dignity provides a better chance for pursuing happiness than a centralized, authoritarian government or religion. There have always been people who are opposed to freedom. That’s why the realization of individual rights and freedom are so recent and so fragile. An awful lot of people are still attracted to the idea that they belong to a tribe that will look after their needs. (How about the 2012 U.S. election?) What they don’t realize (or maybe welcome) is that they will become powerless to change their situation as central authority dictates every facet of their lives.

Tribalism is deep in our bones. Just spend an afternoon at a sporting event. What you see there cannot be explained in any rational sort of way. IMO, it goes back to tribal instincts.

I agree that with the Marxists the “issue” is never the real issue. The real issue is always their desire for power to create a super tribe that is composed of members who are all equal(ly miserable). They believe it will be utopia.

“Islam and Marxism are two typical tribal movements that are at war with the rights and value of the individual.”

No, they’re both anti-tribal, anti-national forms of imperialism. Marxism wants to melt all tribes into a “Citizens of the World” blob (their claim to “celebrate diversity” is just an anti-Western ploy; they don’t mind, for example, a Zimbabwe racially cleansed of white people), and Islam subsumes all its believers under an Arabocentric culture with its orientation toward the black meteorite.

I don’t view history and politics through the prism of genetic determinism, but ethnicity is a different matter. There are other ways of maintaining national cohesion than genetic homogeneity, but multiculturalism is an insidious plot that pushes nations to give up their national cohesion, no matter what it’s based on.

Some people say the American people have never had a stab at national cohesion. I don’t agree: If you could just take all the Hansons among whites, the Sowells among blacks, the Malkins among Asians, the Michael Ramirezes among Hispanics and the Sheldon Adelsons among Jews, you’d have a coherent American nation based on the founding values of the United States–industriousness, self-reliance and the like. But those are very big ifs, and now they’ve turned wholly theoretical, thanks to the treasonous Marxist policy of “Divide and conquer” where the various groupings in America have been pitted against one another.

On the face of it, the European nations as well as the Jewish nation (in Israel) seem to have better odds because their national definitions aren’t based on ideals (or not solely on ideals, at any rate), but on ethnically real definitions. The Marxists are well aware of this, which is why, instead of trying the “Divide and conquer” ploy as in America, they have opted for trying at a demographic assault from without: The hordes of immigrant-colonists swamping Europe, and the call for the Jewish State to let millions of Arabs inside as “redress” (the Phakestinian “Right of Return”). Where in America the Marxist-owned media celebrates tribal hatred (except in the case of whites), it decries “tribalism” in Europe and Israel (except for Arab tribalism… hmmm, I sense a pattern here).

Tribalism isn’t the issue, nor is race; the issue is national cohesion and the Marxist/Islamic assault on it. It’s time to lay off all the red herrings and see the nature of the enemy for what it is. It’s time to understand: Islam is imperialism, Marxism is treason.

Tribes are always more important than the individual members. Thus, any group that wants a strong, all pervasive central government is driven by tribal instinct. Only the Anglosphere has developed the institutions and customs that raise the dignity of the individual to an important place in society. Look around the world. Sub-Saharan Africa, which is mostly black, is still governed by tribalism. Just this morning I read of one Kenyan tribe attacking another. 160 people dead and a village burned – all motivated by tribalsm; more black on black violence.

The march toward a world where the worth of each individual is accepted and tolerance is the norm is at war with our tribal instincts. Islam and Marxism are two typical tribal movements that are at war with the rights and value of the individual.

There are good parts of tribal organization, which we need to retain. Banding together for the common defense is a good thing. As is the importance of the family unit as a means to reproduce and train the offspring necessary to carry on the nation. Both of these good aspects of tribalism are under attack from the Marxists. Moreover, the purpose of these useful tribal customs seems only dimly grasped by far too many people here in the U.S. In fact, too many people have not given these issues much though at all.

Anyone who promotes conflict and division over differences; whether it be of skin color, religion, diet, family constructs, sexual orientation, or many other personal chacteristics; is basically reverting to tribal instincts and is an enemy of individual rights and dignity.

Kyndyll,

“Twenty years ago, when I was college age, we aspired to color-blindness. Now, if you google ‘colorblind racism’ you’ll get over a million hits,…”

The game you can’t win except by total capitulation, isn’t it? The Marxist Left is determined to reverse and paraphrase that old Democrat hobbit’s slogan, effectively saying, “Race-hustling today, race-hustling tomorrow, race-hustling forever!”

For my part, I now view any accusation of being “racist” as a badge of honor, and as a call to double down on the “offense” I’m being accused of.

Steve,

“Race is used as a weapon by people who cannot persuade others by argument.”

Quoted for truth. The race card is Marxist-speak for what their Islamic allies render as “Infidel, submit to our rule!”

n.n,

“Everyone exploits everyone else until they don’t. The circle of degeneracy is complete.”

The bit in the Bible about humans being evil in their inclination from the get-go (they can resist that inclination, but anyone who doesn’t will gravitate toward evil by nature) is appropriately written right before the regeneration of the entire human race by Noah and his sons, warning us that it’s a human universal, applicable to all without exception. More categorical a denial of the Progressivist doctrine of the Noble Savage (that some races are naturally free of humanity’s moral maladies) cannot be found.

“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option.” — Cuomo

I am a member of a tribe, my tribe is composed of my family and friends. My tribe will not accept confiscation or mandatory anything. Fold it five ways Mario.

BTW, I am not white, though I have passed for such. My mother is American Indian, from a reserve in Canada (Blackfoot) and my dad is Hispano from Taos New Mexico. He is “white” in terms of his race, history and culture, but that is in Spanish Colonial terms. Any way, I am saying this from the perspective of someone who “should” be joining in the anti-white hate and I am not. I see it as counterproductive to people who are non-white (that’s most of the planet any way) and — I see it as hateful. Bashing white people will not get anyone any where and hate is hate.

It is “in” for white people on the left to emulate Tim Wise’s attitudes and ideas. He is Jewish and some detractors claim he is not therefore “white” — it is all about context… I find him distasteful as you can tell I am sure. He is anti-American to the extreme degree also and a lot of this critical race theory is mainly a shill for extreme Marxism and anti-Americanism. And, again, the worst thing in a way is that these attitudes do NOT help “people of color”. (I hate that neo-Marxist term by the way, but — to make my point…) These attitudes are destructive to all involved.

“There was a time some decades ago when my life would have been different if my last name were O’Brien vs. Cantorelli vs. Kwiatkowsky vs. Adams, but we’ve moved past old ethnic prejudices so effectively that Gen Y kids don’t even understand that they used to be pervasive.”

Many years ago there was a TV commercial which featured the following lyrics:

I have a little friend,
His name ends with a “ski”
And this is what my father said
As I sat on his knee:

A ski, a witz, an off or cu
When added to a name,
Just teaches us the family
Or town from which it came.

A name like Thomas Jefferson
In some lands o’er the sea
Would not be Thomas Jefferson,
But Thomas Jefferski.

Or Jefferwitz, or Jefferoff or maybe Jeffercu,
So do not let a ski, a witz or off seem strange to you.

I feel the same towards every name
No matter how it ends,
‘Cause people with the strangest names
Can be the best of friends!

According to this, the lyricist was Irving Caesar:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/12/nyregion/12fyi.html

I’m appealing to people’s better nature. Not white. Not black.

Blacks kill blacks. Whites kill blacks. Blacks kill whites. Everyone exploits everyone else until they don’t. The circle of degeneracy is complete. Judging people by the color of their skin does not improve your chance of survival. It does not demonstrate skill to predict your chance of survival.