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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-484711</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;the Democratic Party, which for so many people on the left has taken on the aspect of a religion-substitute.&quot;

A lot of things about the Leftist alliance starts making more sense when one realizes they are a religious, not political, organization. Religion is actually what binds them. Because there&#039;s no way in hell the anti gay born blacks and the pro gay homosexual crowd share the same &quot;politics&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the Democratic Party, which for so many people on the left has taken on the aspect of a religion-substitute.&#8221;</p>
<p>A lot of things about the Leftist alliance starts making more sense when one realizes they are a religious, not political, organization. Religion is actually what binds them. Because there&#8217;s no way in hell the anti gay born blacks and the pro gay homosexual crowd share the same &#8220;politics&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-484710</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 00:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, at least only about 75% of the Jews in the US live on Democrat fiefdoms. One should consider one&#039;s sympathy better reserved for the born blacks in the US, who vote 99% Democrat and are 99% of the time living on Democrat fiefdoms and plantations with white Demoncrat masters.

If people thought &quot;democracy&quot; wasn&#039;t a feasible goal in Iraq, wait until they realize that America is in a worst situation than Iraq ever was in. There will be no &quot;surges&quot; into the inner cities to clean them out of Democrat terrorists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least only about 75% of the Jews in the US live on Democrat fiefdoms. One should consider one&#8217;s sympathy better reserved for the born blacks in the US, who vote 99% Democrat and are 99% of the time living on Democrat fiefdoms and plantations with white Demoncrat masters.</p>
<p>If people thought &#8220;democracy&#8221; wasn&#8217;t a feasible goal in Iraq, wait until they realize that America is in a worst situation than Iraq ever was in. There will be no &#8220;surges&#8221; into the inner cities to clean them out of Democrat terrorists.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-480942</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 05:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read an article just before the election about why Alan Dershowitz came out with an endorsement of Obama even though he&#039;s been highly critical of his actions with regard to Israel during the last four years. 

The author surmised that Dershowitz did that because he believes it is of the utmost importance that both political parties are on record as being pro-Israel. Hence, he has to remain in the fold and do his best to steer them in the right direction.

I&#039;m not giving more than a rough impression of the article. Sorry I can&#039;t remember where I read it -- maybe the Tablet or the Weekly Standard? -- and I think maybe it was written by Lee Smith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read an article just before the election about why Alan Dershowitz came out with an endorsement of Obama even though he&#8217;s been highly critical of his actions with regard to Israel during the last four years. </p>
<p>The author surmised that Dershowitz did that because he believes it is of the utmost importance that both political parties are on record as being pro-Israel. Hence, he has to remain in the fold and do his best to steer them in the right direction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not giving more than a rough impression of the article. Sorry I can&#8217;t remember where I read it &#8212; maybe the Tablet or the Weekly Standard? &#8212; and I think maybe it was written by Lee Smith.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-480917</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve: that linked article is mostly about official US government policy.  Plenty of Jews agitated for more rescue (as it says) but some gave up after a while because the government made it very clear that their priority was to win the war, and that they would not relent about their immigration policies. 

In addition, many people were in denial about the extent of the horrors.  Although some knew, the details were not widely and well known until after the war.  Also, please read &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2010/08/27/arthur-koestler-on-heeding-warnings/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post of mine&lt;/a&gt;.  I think it explains quite a bit about why it&#039;s difficult in general to heed warnings about such atrocities.

I just saw that you linked another article, which describes the reluctance of some Jews to be activist about it (Rabbi Wise is discussed).  I&#039;m sure there were such people, but there were plenty of others who were very activist and were rebuffed by the administration.  And as you can see by the Koestler article (which, interestingly enough, appeared originally in the &lt;i&gt;NY Times&lt;/i&gt; magazine), even the &lt;i&gt;Times&lt;/i&gt; was not completely silent.  The point is that pleas (such as Koestler&#039;s) tended to fall on deaf ears &lt;i&gt;in general&lt;/i&gt;, and Koestler explains why.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: that linked article is mostly about official US government policy.  Plenty of Jews agitated for more rescue (as it says) but some gave up after a while because the government made it very clear that their priority was to win the war, and that they would not relent about their immigration policies. </p>
<p>In addition, many people were in denial about the extent of the horrors.  Although some knew, the details were not widely and well known until after the war.  Also, please read <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2010/08/27/arthur-koestler-on-heeding-warnings/" rel="nofollow">this post of mine</a>.  I think it explains quite a bit about why it&#8217;s difficult in general to heed warnings about such atrocities.</p>
<p>I just saw that you linked another article, which describes the reluctance of some Jews to be activist about it (Rabbi Wise is discussed).  I&#8217;m sure there were such people, but there were plenty of others who were very activist and were rebuffed by the administration.  And as you can see by the Koestler article (which, interestingly enough, appeared originally in the <i>NY Times</i> magazine), even the <i>Times</i> was not completely silent.  The point is that pleas (such as Koestler&#8217;s) tended to fall on deaf ears <i>in general</i>, and Koestler explains why.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-480913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am not sure where that x came from. Here is the link again:

http://fresnozionism.org/2011/08/the-failure-of-the-liberal-jewish-establishment-then-and-now/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure where that x came from. Here is the link again:</p>
<p><a href="http://fresnozionism.org/2011/08/the-failure-of-the-liberal-jewish-establishment-then-and-now/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://fresnozionism.org/2011/08/the-failure-of-the-liberal-jewish-establishment-then-and-now/</a></p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-480912</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 04:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article expresses my point exactly:

xhttp://fresnozionism.org/2011/08/the-failure-of-the-liberal-jewish-establishment-then-and-now/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article expresses my point exactly:</p>
<p>xhttp://fresnozionism.org/2011/08/the-failure-of-the-liberal-jewish-establishment-then-and-now/</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-480877</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 03:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo, this article echoes what I remember hearing about how American Jews responded during WWII:

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history/Modern_History/1914-1948/The_Holocaust/American_Response.shtml

I was surprised because if anyone should have known what was happening to European Jews it would be their relatives in America.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo, this article echoes what I remember hearing about how American Jews responded during WWII:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history/Modern_History/1914-1948/The_Holocaust/American_Response.shtml" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.myjewishlearning.com/history/Modern_History/1914-1948/The_Holocaust/American_Response.shtml</a></p>
<p>I was surprised because if anyone should have known what was happening to European Jews it would be their relatives in America.</p>
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		By: Janet		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-480865</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 02:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I must disagree with the idea that most secular Jews do not greatly support Israel. I and my Jewish friends are all mostly secular atheist Jews, and we all very much support Israel. we are what Bill Maher referred to as 9/11 Liberals. We may not agree on various issues inIsrael but we all support it; especially in this very anti Israel climate all over the world. also, why use the word &quot;Zionist&quot;? Israel is already a country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must disagree with the idea that most secular Jews do not greatly support Israel. I and my Jewish friends are all mostly secular atheist Jews, and we all very much support Israel. we are what Bill Maher referred to as 9/11 Liberals. We may not agree on various issues inIsrael but we all support it; especially in this very anti Israel climate all over the world. also, why use the word &#8220;Zionist&#8221;? Israel is already a country.</p>
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		By: IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-480825</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IGotBupkis, Legally Defined Cyberbully in All 57 States]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 01:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will, just for the heck of it, point out the blog of a rare &quot;Republican&quot; Jew (in Hollywood, no less!) -- &lt;b&gt;Seraphic Secret&lt;/b&gt; -- this is an old article, but it goes to show you that he is a serious conservative:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seraphicpress.com/how-to-get-so-dead-in-this-town/comment-page-1/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How to Get So Dead in This Town&lt;/a&gt;

Here&#039;s his latest (as I write) piece,
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seraphicpress.com/jew-without-a-gun/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jew Without A Gun&lt;/a&gt;
about his and his family&#039;s experiences during the 1992 LA Riots.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will, just for the heck of it, point out the blog of a rare &#8220;Republican&#8221; Jew (in Hollywood, no less!) &#8212; <b>Seraphic Secret</b> &#8212; this is an old article, but it goes to show you that he is a serious conservative:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.seraphicpress.com/how-to-get-so-dead-in-this-town/comment-page-1/#comments" rel="nofollow">How to Get So Dead in This Town</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s his latest (as I write) piece,<br />
<a href="http://www.seraphicpress.com/jew-without-a-gun/" rel="nofollow">Jew Without A Gun</a><br />
about his and his family&#8217;s experiences during the 1992 LA Riots.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/18/president-obama-2/#comment-480804</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 00:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve: wrong on both counts.  I&#039;ve never seen anything that indicates Jews in the US were split in any way as a group on WWII.  

Of course, there were a few secular leftist Jews who weren&#039;t against the Germans when the Germans and Soviets were briefly allied (1939 to June of 1941), but after that even leftist Jews were anti-Hitler. 

And in general American Jews did all they could to sponsor Jews coming to this country to escape the Nazis, and to publicize their plight.  

You may be thinking of the US government itself, which in the main did not facilitate the entrance of Jews here even in those dire times.  It wasn&#039;t easy to get in, and it required sponsors, etc., and there were strict quotas (don&#039;t have time to look up the details now, but that&#039;s my recollection). 

And you may be thinking of the publisher of the &lt;i&gt;NY Times&lt;/i&gt;, who &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jochnowitz.net/Essays/Buried.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;didn&#039;t publicize the plight of the Jews in WWII&lt;/a&gt; very much despite the fact that he was Jewish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: wrong on both counts.  I&#8217;ve never seen anything that indicates Jews in the US were split in any way as a group on WWII.  </p>
<p>Of course, there were a few secular leftist Jews who weren&#8217;t against the Germans when the Germans and Soviets were briefly allied (1939 to June of 1941), but after that even leftist Jews were anti-Hitler. </p>
<p>And in general American Jews did all they could to sponsor Jews coming to this country to escape the Nazis, and to publicize their plight.  </p>
<p>You may be thinking of the US government itself, which in the main did not facilitate the entrance of Jews here even in those dire times.  It wasn&#8217;t easy to get in, and it required sponsors, etc., and there were strict quotas (don&#8217;t have time to look up the details now, but that&#8217;s my recollection). </p>
<p>And you may be thinking of the publisher of the <i>NY Times</i>, who <a href="http://www.jochnowitz.net/Essays/Buried.html" rel="nofollow">didn&#8217;t publicize the plight of the Jews in WWII</a> very much despite the fact that he was Jewish.</p>
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