Comments on: From democracy to despotism https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/ A blog about political change, among other things Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:38:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: thomass https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472590 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:38:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472590 Don Carlos Says:

good point about the trial. Could be the worst part was not telling the people used. Something western doctors used to do also until the public caught on…

]]> By: ELC https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472448 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:24:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472448 @ Eric 5:07 am. Montesquieu doesn’t seem to have accounted for political parties that are unified top to bottom from national to local and side to side across branches.

The founders didn’t either. That is the philosophical or strategic weakness of the federal constitution: it is rather well designed to preclude personal ambition from becoming tyrannical — but not so for ideology. I think the framers simply never considered ideological ambition at all. (Indeed, I’m not quite sure such a thing existed at the time.) It did not occur to them, it seems to me, that the Congress and the Presidency and the Supreme Court might be simultaneously, and for a long time, dominated by people who think the country would be better off with an all-powerful centralized government. At any rate, I haven’t seen anything that indicates they considered such a situation: Marx hadn’t even been born yet.

@ Steve 8:02 am. Will the lefties in NE and other blue states change their voting pattern or will they double down on stupid? No, they won’t double down on stupid. They’ll triple down. As a local radio personality has it, “Liberals never think what they are doing is wrong, they only think they haven’t done enough of it yet.”

]]> By: Steve https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472371 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:02:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472371 What happens when people see their taxes going up and the economy and the debt situation worsening? Will the lefties in NE and other blue states change their voting pattern or will they double down on stupid? If they start looking for a way to check the confiscatory policies of the left, they’ll rediscover federalism.

]]> By: Eric https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472296 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:07:57 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472296 Montesquieu doesn’t seem to have accounted for political parties that are unified top to bottom from national to local and side to side across branches.

]]> By: Don Carlos https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472095 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:46:08 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472095 parker:
It may not be news to thee, but is to me.
As a doc, I would very much like to know who the Western Pharmas were, and what drugs were tried for what illnesses. My take on this differs from Artfldgr, as follows:

The FDA approval process for NDAs (that is New Drug Applications for those of you in Rio Linda) has been progressively more onerous and costly, now extremely so, for a long, long time. The East German ‘experiments’, aka drug trials, may (and I stress the ‘may’) not have been nearly as unethical as the article would have us conclude. The trialists (those administering the clinical trials, not the patients) are always compensated for their work, whether OstDeutsche or not… they don’t run on Empty either.

]]> By: parker https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472051 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:41:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472051 “The former Communist state made millions from the conspiracy — even though many of those tested died of side effects”

Same as it ever was! artfldger, we (at least 90% of we) know these truths you spend 2,000+ words to reiterate. We get it. We are not zombie/idiots. I want to witness you providing new info. Look west young man. 😉

]]> By: parker https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472048 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:36:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472048 “Tip of the iceberg stuff.”

There is far more beneath the surface. 4 dead and BHO had live video with in a few minutes. Forget about Rice, she is yesterday’s whore. The target is the messiah. What did he know, when did he know it, and and why did he do nothing? Those are the questions. Contact your congress critter now!

]]> By: parker https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472042 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:28:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472042 “The antifederalists thought we would end up with a big dictatorial central government.”

Bingo!

]]> By: Artfldgr https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472036 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:17:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472036 East German officials sold citizens to be used as guinea pigs for drug trials

The former Communist state made millions from the conspiracy — even though many of those tested died of side effects

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/east-german-officials-sold-citizens-1473167

]]> By: Artfldgr https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/05/from-democracy-to-despotism/#comment-472034 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 01:16:23 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=22495#comment-472034 Leftist Terrorist Turned Neo-Nazi Says Was Stasi Informant Too

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/adventures-in-german-radicalism-leftist-terrorist-turned-neo-nazi-says-was-stasi-informant-too-a-777938.html

State Representative Wants the Stasi Back

A Left Party member of parliament in the state of Lower Saxony is in hot water after suggesting that the secret East German police — the feared Stasi — and the Berlin Wall weren’t such bad ideas after all.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/uproar-on-the-left-state-representative-wants-the-stasi-back-a-535606.html

and one western country is making slum cities where they are going to put people to teach them how to behave (with minimum facilities)… sounds remarkably like something from the past.

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