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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/04/the-muslim-brotherhood-struts-its-stuff/#comment-474742</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The sadistic enmity of the Left knows no limits. Those that cannot imagine it, that cannot understand it enough to hate it, will need to try harder. Assuming there&#039;s a world left for them to do it in.

I don&#039;t call them enemies of humanity for nothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sadistic enmity of the Left knows no limits. Those that cannot imagine it, that cannot understand it enough to hate it, will need to try harder. Assuming there&#8217;s a world left for them to do it in.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t call them enemies of humanity for nothing.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/12/04/the-muslim-brotherhood-struts-its-stuff/#comment-474739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Muslim Brotherhood probably has the strongest links to Leftism in the US. What with the Islamic Black Panther history and various other tie ins. They also have a solid front operation CAIR and tend to do things more on the sly, like Democrats, than the more fiercy and direct Al Qaeda.

America is very weak to indirect, traitorous, and internal threats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Muslim Brotherhood probably has the strongest links to Leftism in the US. What with the Islamic Black Panther history and various other tie ins. They also have a solid front operation CAIR and tend to do things more on the sly, like Democrats, than the more fiercy and direct Al Qaeda.</p>
<p>America is very weak to indirect, traitorous, and internal threats.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But what I think is more likely, actually, is that either way was okay with him. That what I meant by “not care.” ... He does want US power to ebb, however, IMHO.&quot;

I agree and I&#039;ll slightly tweak that to Obama doesn&#039;t care if US power not only ebbs, but he&#039;s inviting US failure on the international stage. 

Obama could formally change the course of US foreign policy and make formal the Democrats&#039; &#039;neo-isolationism&#039; and withdraw US influence overseas. But instead he&#039;s continued the liberal foreign policy while gutting it of the means to influence. In other words, rather than have the US quit, take our ball and go home, he&#039;s placed the US on the path to lose and fail, instead. It&#039;s like he&#039;s trying to kill the possibility of US influence ever venturing forth again, more than just withdrawing US influence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But what I think is more likely, actually, is that either way was okay with him. That what I meant by “not care.” &#8230; He does want US power to ebb, however, IMHO.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree and I&#8217;ll slightly tweak that to Obama doesn&#8217;t care if US power not only ebbs, but he&#8217;s inviting US failure on the international stage. </p>
<p>Obama could formally change the course of US foreign policy and make formal the Democrats&#8217; &#8216;neo-isolationism&#8217; and withdraw US influence overseas. But instead he&#8217;s continued the liberal foreign policy while gutting it of the means to influence. In other words, rather than have the US quit, take our ball and go home, he&#8217;s placed the US on the path to lose and fail, instead. It&#8217;s like he&#8217;s trying to kill the possibility of US influence ever venturing forth again, more than just withdrawing US influence.</p>
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		By: Sam L.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 00:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The smartest man ever to be president, and he was fooled?  

Can&#039;t buy that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The smartest man ever to be president, and he was fooled?  </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t buy that.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;My reading of him is that he subscribes to no religion. He does want US power to ebb, however, IMHO.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

I agree but he&#039;s a bit of a conundrum. If he is an Islamist and, there is much circumstantial evidence to indicate that possibility, he is not a devout Muslim. I don&#039;t think he&#039;s ever prayed 5 times a day toward Mecca for instance. Then again, he definitely believes in and practices Taqqiya. Perhaps even Michelle doesn&#039;t really know where his heart of hearts resides.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;My reading of him is that he subscribes to no religion. He does want US power to ebb, however, IMHO.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>I agree but he&#8217;s a bit of a conundrum. If he is an Islamist and, there is much circumstantial evidence to indicate that possibility, he is not a devout Muslim. I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s ever prayed 5 times a day toward Mecca for instance. Then again, he definitely believes in and practices Taqqiya. Perhaps even Michelle doesn&#8217;t really know where his heart of hearts resides.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr and others: to those who thought my writing that Obama might not care that the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt meant that I had either discounted the possibility that he wanted that to happen or even planned for that to happen, I actually meant to subtly hint at that as a possibility, as well, when I wrote the last sentence of my post. 

I guess I was too subtle.  So let me clarify: I think it&#039;s a possibility.  But what I think is more likely, actually, is that either way was okay with him.  That what I meant by &quot;not care.&quot;  If liberal democracy friendly to the US took Mubarak&#039;s place in Egypt, then well and good, because Obama would be lauded for it.  And if a new dictator of the Islamicist kind did arose, that would be fine with him as well, because he wouldn&#039;t get serious blame for it except from people who already didn&#039;t think much of him; he&#039;d never be called to task.  And he thinks the US is too powerful in the world anyway.

I don&#039;t think Obama, however, has some secret plan to have Islamicists take over the Middle East, because he&#039;s some sort of secret Muslim.  My reading of him is that he subscribes to no religion.  He does want US power to ebb, however, IMHO.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr and others: to those who thought my writing that Obama might not care that the Muslim Brotherhood took over in Egypt meant that I had either discounted the possibility that he wanted that to happen or even planned for that to happen, I actually meant to subtly hint at that as a possibility, as well, when I wrote the last sentence of my post. </p>
<p>I guess I was too subtle.  So let me clarify: I think it&#8217;s a possibility.  But what I think is more likely, actually, is that either way was okay with him.  That what I meant by &#8220;not care.&#8221;  If liberal democracy friendly to the US took Mubarak&#8217;s place in Egypt, then well and good, because Obama would be lauded for it.  And if a new dictator of the Islamicist kind did arose, that would be fine with him as well, because he wouldn&#8217;t get serious blame for it except from people who already didn&#8217;t think much of him; he&#8217;d never be called to task.  And he thinks the US is too powerful in the world anyway.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Obama, however, has some secret plan to have Islamicists take over the Middle East, because he&#8217;s some sort of secret Muslim.  My reading of him is that he subscribes to no religion.  He does want US power to ebb, however, IMHO.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;So sad for Egypt, what will happen to the historical treasures there ? My, God there will always be a concern that they will be obliterated in a Muslim state!&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/07/10/calls-to-destroy-egypts-great-pyramids-begin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; 

&quot;According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids–or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi’i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax.    Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Amr bin al-As [circa 641] could not.” 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Everything, if it is a pagan statue or idol, that is worshiped or suspected to be worshipped, or is worshipped by one person on Earth, must be destroyed. We, or someone else, must destroy it,&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Morgan Al-Gohary, a jihadi sheikh with a history of radicalism and connections with the Taliban, during a recent appearance on the private Egyptian TV channel Dream TV2.

The only consolation is that when radical jihadists force the US and Israel to turn Cairo and much of the M.E. into a glass parking lot, as retaliation for nuclear terrorist attacks, the loss of priceless antiquities won&#039;t be a consideration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;So sad for Egypt, what will happen to the historical treasures there ? My, God there will always be a concern that they will be obliterated in a Muslim state!&#8221;</i> </p>
<p><a href="http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/07/10/calls-to-destroy-egypts-great-pyramids-begin/" rel="nofollow"><b>Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin</b></a> </p>
<p>&#8220;According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids–or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi’i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax.    Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Amr bin al-As [circa 641] could not.” </p>
<p><i>&#8220;Everything, if it is a pagan statue or idol, that is worshiped or suspected to be worshipped, or is worshipped by one person on Earth, must be destroyed. We, or someone else, must destroy it,&#8221;</i> Morgan Al-Gohary, a jihadi sheikh with a history of radicalism and connections with the Taliban, during a recent appearance on the private Egyptian TV channel Dream TV2.</p>
<p>The only consolation is that when radical jihadists force the US and Israel to turn Cairo and much of the M.E. into a glass parking lot, as retaliation for nuclear terrorist attacks, the loss of priceless antiquities won&#8217;t be a consideration.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ,

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I am now believe it is foolish to ever hope for democracy in the Muslim world. Our policy there should be to defend ourselves and Israel from their aggression and keep the oil flowing as best we can.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

I concur. And IMO, Daniel Greenfield is one of the most astute observers of the Middle East and the left. 

Ed B.,
&lt;i&gt;&quot;So what do the huge protests against Morsi tonight signify?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

The last gasp of a distinct minority. Consider these facts; 84% of Egyptians support the death penalty for apostasy. That same percentage voted for the Muslim Brotherhood candidates for their parliament. The remaining 16% in a population of 80+ million are more than enough to fill Tahrir Square with protestors, while having zero chance of affecting Egypt&#039;s descent into the slavery of Shariah law. The new draft constitution will now be submitted to the public for an up-or-down vote, that same 84% will vote for it.

Rachelle,

Under the current conditions, how else is Obama going to be able to assist in the destruction of Israel? 

Gary Rosen,
&lt;i&gt;“What is the difference between Mubarak and Morsi except Mubarak was a loyal ally and Morsi is an Islamist?”&lt;/i&gt; 

Mubarak was in charge, Morsi is a figurehead, he reports to the Muslim Brotherhood&#039;s charismatic leader, Khairat al-Shater. The Muslim Brotherhood is the spiritual godfather of Al Qaeda. 

Here is how al-Shater proclaimed the Brotherhood’s objective in April 2011, right after the Islamist victory in the amendments referendum that has led to Egypt&#039;s new Shariah compliant constitution:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;You all know that our main and overall mission as Muslim Brothers is to empower God’s religion on earth, to organize our life and the lives of the people on the basis of Islam, to establish the Nahda [i.e., the Renaissance] of the ummah [i.e., the notional global Muslim nation] and its civilization on the basis of Islam, and to subjugate people to God on earth.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/334560/morsi-s-maneuver-andrew-c-mccarthy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;Egypt thus becomes the Sunni version of Iran’s totalitarian regime&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, in which Shiite mullahs exercise ultimate authority.

And how exactly is sharia interpreted by the scholars of al-Azhar, whose alumni include such jihadist eminences as Sheikh Qaradawi and the Blind Sheikh? Not to wear you out with Spring Fever, but as it outlines (with citations to the Azhar-approved, Brotherhood-certified sharia manual, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.shafiifiqh.com/maktabah/relianceoftraveller.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Reliance of the Traveller&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) [written in 1368], they interpret it to call for: death to apostates from Islam; “charitable” contributions to those fighting jihad (expressly defined as “war against non-Muslims”); discrimination against women; discrimination against non-Muslims; death to homosexuals; death to those who spy against Muslims; death by stoning for adulterers; and so on.

It is going to be a long, cold spring.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ,</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I am now believe it is foolish to ever hope for democracy in the Muslim world. Our policy there should be to defend ourselves and Israel from their aggression and keep the oil flowing as best we can.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>I concur. And IMO, Daniel Greenfield is one of the most astute observers of the Middle East and the left. </p>
<p>Ed B.,<br />
<i>&#8220;So what do the huge protests against Morsi tonight signify?&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>The last gasp of a distinct minority. Consider these facts; 84% of Egyptians support the death penalty for apostasy. That same percentage voted for the Muslim Brotherhood candidates for their parliament. The remaining 16% in a population of 80+ million are more than enough to fill Tahrir Square with protestors, while having zero chance of affecting Egypt&#8217;s descent into the slavery of Shariah law. The new draft constitution will now be submitted to the public for an up-or-down vote, that same 84% will vote for it.</p>
<p>Rachelle,</p>
<p>Under the current conditions, how else is Obama going to be able to assist in the destruction of Israel? </p>
<p>Gary Rosen,<br />
<i>“What is the difference between Mubarak and Morsi except Mubarak was a loyal ally and Morsi is an Islamist?”</i> </p>
<p>Mubarak was in charge, Morsi is a figurehead, he reports to the Muslim Brotherhood&#8217;s charismatic leader, Khairat al-Shater. The Muslim Brotherhood is the spiritual godfather of Al Qaeda. </p>
<p>Here is how al-Shater proclaimed the Brotherhood’s objective in April 2011, right after the Islamist victory in the amendments referendum that has led to Egypt&#8217;s new Shariah compliant constitution:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;You all know that our main and overall mission as Muslim Brothers is to empower God’s religion on earth, to organize our life and the lives of the people on the basis of Islam, to establish the Nahda [i.e., the Renaissance] of the ummah [i.e., the notional global Muslim nation] and its civilization on the basis of Islam, and to subjugate people to God on earth.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/334560/morsi-s-maneuver-andrew-c-mccarthy" rel="nofollow"><b>&#8220;Egypt thus becomes the Sunni version of Iran’s totalitarian regime</b></a>, in which Shiite mullahs exercise ultimate authority.</p>
<p>And how exactly is sharia interpreted by the scholars of al-Azhar, whose alumni include such jihadist eminences as Sheikh Qaradawi and the Blind Sheikh? Not to wear you out with Spring Fever, but as it outlines (with citations to the Azhar-approved, Brotherhood-certified sharia manual, <a href="http://www.shafiifiqh.com/maktabah/relianceoftraveller.pdf" rel="nofollow"><b>Reliance of the Traveller</b></a>) [written in 1368], they interpret it to call for: death to apostates from Islam; “charitable” contributions to those fighting jihad (expressly defined as “war against non-Muslims”); discrimination against women; discrimination against non-Muslims; death to homosexuals; death to those who spy against Muslims; death by stoning for adulterers; and so on.</p>
<p>It is going to be a long, cold spring.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hubris of Hillary &#038; Obama is breath taking, I was talking about this with my husband.
Could it be that they, surrounded for years now by sycophants, yes people, those looking for favors only too ready to satisfy their every whim,
could they be so mentally impoverished that they think normal people will give no push back????
Do they think their pronouncement are taken by citizens in Egypt &#038; bhenghazi etc as words from On High ???  Why haven t Hillary &#038; Obama figured out that others have agendas too.  They are in foreign service &#038; childishly assume &quot;well everybody else does what I want, of course foreigners will be only too eager to follow my dictates too&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubris of Hillary &amp; Obama is breath taking, I was talking about this with my husband.<br />
Could it be that they, surrounded for years now by sycophants, yes people, those looking for favors only too ready to satisfy their every whim,<br />
could they be so mentally impoverished that they think normal people will give no push back????<br />
Do they think their pronouncement are taken by citizens in Egypt &amp; bhenghazi etc as words from On High ???  Why haven t Hillary &amp; Obama figured out that others have agendas too.  They are in foreign service &amp; childishly assume &#8220;well everybody else does what I want, of course foreigners will be only too eager to follow my dictates too&#8221;.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very good points by everybody.  So sad for Egypt, what will happen to the historical treasures
there ?  My, God there will always be a concern that they will be obliterated in a Muslim state !
I imagine archeology there will stop.  Coptic Christians (the most ancient branch, there for 2,000 years are under threat) yet their numbers are 10 million &#038; they will live under harrasment, threats.  I shudder to think of Christmas for them
we will hear of bombings &#038; deaths on Christmas Eve, once again a repeat of what has happened just last year with Mubarack gone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good points by everybody.  So sad for Egypt, what will happen to the historical treasures<br />
there ?  My, God there will always be a concern that they will be obliterated in a Muslim state !<br />
I imagine archeology there will stop.  Coptic Christians (the most ancient branch, there for 2,000 years are under threat) yet their numbers are 10 million &amp; they will live under harrasment, threats.  I shudder to think of Christmas for them<br />
we will hear of bombings &amp; deaths on Christmas Eve, once again a repeat of what has happened just last year with Mubarack gone.</p>
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