Fair enough. But now I’d like to go back around to my original comment to M J R. We can both agree that the pro-Democrat bias in the media is a problem Republicans have some power to fix (though we disagree as to how much). Still everyone sits around complaining that nothing can stop the all powerful MSM. In fact, a lot of Republicans get an odd kind of satisfaction from sitting and complaining. Why are people so eager to believe these news organizations have a level of power they clearly don’t, and why are they so comfortable not doing anything about it?

Simply being big in a field isn’t sufficient to give someone the power of a monopoly. Republicans seem to have no problem understanding this as it relates to most areas of business, but when it comes to the media everyone starts talking about corporate conspiracy theories. The fact that Newsweek is a charity case and the New York Times had to mortgage their headquarters to stay in business never makes anyone stop and think that maybe there really isn’t any kind of monopoly in the news media. Anyone can put anything out there, and if they market it right, the people will come.

Let’s look at the Daily Show as an example (since I’m told its the only place twenty get their news anymore). When the show first started in the late 90’s, it was mostly a variety show. They did celebrity gossip, went out and found silly and bizarre local stories. There wasn’t much political bias, because there wasn’t much politics.

Then the 2000 election came around. The Daily show had a field day making fun of how terrible the news coverage was and started presenting some real news themselves, but in an entertaining way. The audience loved it and the rest is history.

Now my point in all that is that the Daily Show’s rise wasn’t inevitable. Anyone could have stumbled into that market with a good show. The thing is, Republicans aren’t trying to get into that market. Look around the Republican leaning media and you see lots of very talented guys all making shows for older men who already vote Republican. You can’t complain that the other guy is cheating when you’re not even playing the game.

By the way, I’ve never seen Red Eye, but I’ll give it a look if I’m ever up that late.

That said, I think that “Red Eye” on Fox is a nice start. But why is it on at 3 AM?

Here’s the mistake both of you are making; The “MSM” has to mean more than simply pro-Democrat. For it to have the kind of power Republicans generally attribute to it, they need to have some kind of benefit of incumbency (like the three networks in the days before cable) that allows them to promote liberal stories and squash conservative ones without any competition to point out the bias.
As I pointed out about above, those days are going away. The examples you use for where the younger crowd gets its news (the Comedy Central late night shows and Yahoo News) have no advantages of incumbency. If the Daily Show is part of the MSM, then the term has no meaning. Anyone can start a website, anyone can put a show on cable and people can decide to get their news from them or click on something else.
If Democrats have been more successful branching into alternative media than Republicans, it is because they are better at marketing their product to the under 30 crowd or younger people simply agree more with the Democrats. Either way, they won fair and square.

I don’t want to find out, but perhaps the time will come when I do find out. I have food and water stored against a long term disaster. I know how to grow and preserve food. I save seeds. I can hunt, skin, and butcher. I know how to purify water. I have silver. I have ammo and I can still hit a paper plate at 400 yards. I have children and grandchildren. I will gladly die before I allow goose stepping, jacket booted thugs to come marching down my street.

All I can do is prepare as best as I am able and stay ready to defend what is mine. That is all I can do. It takes no village to raise my grandchildren and I am completely willing to kill anyone who seeks to enforce the opposite. If it becomes everyman for himself time, I am as ready as I am able. Do not tread on me or mine. All it takes is 5 million to feel the same.

Some quick guesses. Going over the cliff would create a firestorm. So many more people would have to pay increased taxes, there would be an immediate outcry. Stock market probably drops 10-15% in a matter of days. Congress, seeing the seething anger, would do emergency work and fix the tax situation pretty quickly. Would it be a good fix? Probably not much better than what they could do right now.

Same way with all the sequestered funds. (Spending cuts.) Huge outcry from all those who are affected. Emergency fixes. Back to square one.

Stock market begins to recover as fixes are made. However, economy remains stagnant because of general lack of confidence.

Under Obama the best we can hope for is continued economic stagnation and downgrading of the dollar. Since 2008 we have all lost on average $4000 in purchasing power. We have lost several trillion dollars in real estate and securities values. Retirement funds (401ks, IRAs, defined benefit plans, annuities, etc) both private and public have deteriorated in value. We can expect more of the same under the next four years of Obama.

Will we become another Argentina? I don’t think so, but we will be moving in that direction. We have too many resources, (Farms, oil/gas fields, mines, timber, infrastructure [airports, sea ports, super highways, etc], hi tech facilities, heavy manufacturers, [Boeing Caterpillar, Deere, Joy Global, etc] and other assets that will help slow our decline and stave off default/bankruptcy. We will all be poorer, but I don’t think we will be in a disaster bankruptcy scenario like Argentina.

That’s my take and one reason I believe that we have a chance at getting the economy growing again, if we can wrest power away from the progressives who demand equality of outcomes even if it beggars us.

As the rocks were hitting their marks, I awoke with the first true smile I’ve worn since Nov.6th…Ahhhh, to be Potentate for One F’ing Day!! (-:

Just take a WALK Away.

Sick of this shit is what I am.

just vote PRESENT!!!

After all, if it’s good enough for a future President of the United States, it’s good enough for some spineless Republicans.