I have a meeting tonight which gets out after the polls close in the east.

I heard Clinton asking why anyone would vote for a president who lied to us. To him, to you, I say that lets Clinton and Obama out

Give me a break. It was meant to be lighthearted.

While you may be, on the whole, correct about the current state of Dem politics, it is only because that party has been taken over by an Alinskyite extreme left-wing faction. Remember the current Dem party is most assuredly not the party of JFK and Daniel Patrick Moynihan and I suggest that a stronger and more small-govt oriented Republican party will eventually draw Dems back toward the center.

Dines d’Souza is a treasure.

Can’t link. Guess you need to cut and paste.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/rEM4NKXK-iA?feature=player_detailpage

Because the left and the right have two mutually exclusive beliefs in the role of government.

The right believes that the purpose of government is to secure the rights of the people, as expressed in the Declaration of Independence:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed”

The left believes that the purpose of government is to provide for its subjects — to provide them with food and clothing, shelter and utilities, education and transportation, health care and retirement.

But the government cannot provide these things unless it takes them away from someone else, violating their rights.

The current welfare state is unstable. One of the sides is going to win. Whether that results in an amicable split or subjugation of the loser remains to be seen.

Somebody will lose but nobody will win.
The country is too divided. In fact, the battle lines may not shift much at all, just get more entrenched.
Neo, did you once say you were a marriage counselor? We’re at the point of irreconcilable differences.

Perhaps our political “marriage” in this country has simply changed. Perhaps it’s no longer June and Ward Cleaver, but Mary Matalin and James Carville. Somehow they seem to make it work, why can’t we?

Neo, did you once say you were a marriage counselor? We’re at the point of irreconcilable differences.

On NeoConScum’s advice I also went over to the “dark side” of salon.com for a few minutes. I had to laugh as there were several articles that would have fit in rright here with titles along the lines of: “How can it be this close?” and “Why would anyone ever vote for that liar?”

I don’t think they were talking about the same person we were 🙂

May I offer that your Schrodinger’s cat reference actually offers a rejoinder and a finality to your previous Cloward-Piven post. In the Wiki entry, it references a letter that Einstein sent to Schrodinger in 1950):

You are the only contemporary physicist, besides Laue, who sees that one cannot get around the assumption of reality

This “assumption of reality” takes us back to the Bill Whittle obervation that either Obama or Romney will win. Period. That is our choice. Period. In this matter, we can not get around the assumption of the reality that either Romney or Obama will serve as president for the next four years. Period. All the rest, the agonizing, the moralizing, the standing on principle is bupkes. Period.