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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 03:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;‘St. Louis’
 Hmm… I live there. And yet I’ve never seen a democrat even though I have at least three different bird feeders in my back yard. What is their natural habitat?&lt;/i&gt;

North St. Louis.

I used to live in Creve Coeur.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>‘St. Louis’<br />
 Hmm… I live there. And yet I’ve never seen a democrat even though I have at least three different bird feeders in my back yard. What is their natural habitat?</i></p>
<p>North St. Louis.</p>
<p>I used to live in Creve Coeur.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 02:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve D,

St. Louis, a great city.  The Fox Theater, the Cupples house on the campus of St. Louis Univ., of course the Gateway Arch.  Have had the pleasure of your city several times.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve D,</p>
<p>St. Louis, a great city.  The Fox Theater, the Cupples house on the campus of St. Louis Univ., of course the Gateway Arch.  Have had the pleasure of your city several times.</p>
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		By: Steve D		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/11/03/the-best-revenge/#comment-449944</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 01:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;I’m with those who say Romney will win the popular vote but lose the EV.&#039; 
And it could be historic. The greatest ever win of the popular vote, which still loses the Electoral College.
I think Romney will win the popular vote and he might (or not) eke out a tiny victory in E with the help of the Supreme Court (or the rule of law. Or something).  This is going to be fun. Fasten your seatbelts folks and break out the popcorn. 
I just love sports…I mean politics…whatever.
‘St. Louis’
Hmm… I live there. And yet I’ve never seen a democrat even though I have at least three different bird feeders in my back yard. What is their natural habitat?
I do see signs that say Romney everywhere I look, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I’m with those who say Romney will win the popular vote but lose the EV.&#8217;<br />
And it could be historic. The greatest ever win of the popular vote, which still loses the Electoral College.<br />
I think Romney will win the popular vote and he might (or not) eke out a tiny victory in E with the help of the Supreme Court (or the rule of law. Or something).  This is going to be fun. Fasten your seatbelts folks and break out the popcorn.<br />
I just love sports…I mean politics…whatever.<br />
‘St. Louis’<br />
Hmm… I live there. And yet I’ve never seen a democrat even though I have at least three different bird feeders in my back yard. What is their natural habitat?<br />
I do see signs that say Romney everywhere I look, though.</p>
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		By: Linda		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 01:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I live in the San Gabriel Valley, a suburb in LA county.  In 2008, the Obama hype and lawn signs were enough to make me want to puke as I drove through my neighborhoods.  We were inundated.  Fast forward to 2012 and there is not even 1% of signs for Obama.  Matter of fact, what I am seeing is pretty even.  For every Obama sign, there is a Romney sign.

I&#039;m not delusional enough to believe Obama won&#039;t take CA, but I do hope his margin is diminished greatly.  That alone would be a huge statement.  I&#039;m praying to every deity imaginable that come Nov 6th, we will rid ourselves of this cretin in the White House.  I&#039;ve never disliked any President more in my lifetime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in the San Gabriel Valley, a suburb in LA county.  In 2008, the Obama hype and lawn signs were enough to make me want to puke as I drove through my neighborhoods.  We were inundated.  Fast forward to 2012 and there is not even 1% of signs for Obama.  Matter of fact, what I am seeing is pretty even.  For every Obama sign, there is a Romney sign.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not delusional enough to believe Obama won&#8217;t take CA, but I do hope his margin is diminished greatly.  That alone would be a huge statement.  I&#8217;m praying to every deity imaginable that come Nov 6th, we will rid ourselves of this cretin in the White House.  I&#8217;ve never disliked any President more in my lifetime.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/11/03/the-best-revenge/#comment-449931</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 01:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The point isn’t which freaking party is “most guilty” the point is that it is relatively easy to do,&lt;/i&gt;

1. Electoral fraud is only really worthwhile in large cities, where the population density is high enough so that a fraudulent vote rate of 0.1%  (to pick a number at random) yields sufficient numbers of votes to swing a state&#039;s Electoral College votes. It&#039;s just not worth the trouble to get cute with the vote in Wyoming.

2. Democrats &lt;strike&gt;infest&lt;/strike&gt; dominate large cities, and always have.

3. Therefore electoral fraud is largely - but, granted, not exclusively - a Democrat phenomenon, and always has been. See: New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago (Chicago warrants several mentions), St. Louis, Kansas City, Seattle (hi there, Christine! more votes than registered voters? No problem!), Minneapolis (how you doin&#039;, Al Franken?),  ...)

QED.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The point isn’t which freaking party is “most guilty” the point is that it is relatively easy to do,</i></p>
<p>1. Electoral fraud is only really worthwhile in large cities, where the population density is high enough so that a fraudulent vote rate of 0.1%  (to pick a number at random) yields sufficient numbers of votes to swing a state&#8217;s Electoral College votes. It&#8217;s just not worth the trouble to get cute with the vote in Wyoming.</p>
<p>2. Democrats <strike>infest</strike> dominate large cities, and always have.</p>
<p>3. Therefore electoral fraud is largely &#8211; but, granted, not exclusively &#8211; a Democrat phenomenon, and always has been. See: New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Chicago, Chicago (Chicago warrants several mentions), St. Louis, Kansas City, Seattle (hi there, Christine! more votes than registered voters? No problem!), Minneapolis (how you doin&#8217;, Al Franken?),  &#8230;)</p>
<p>QED.</p>
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		By: carl in atlanta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 00:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;Your quest is known to us,&#039; said Galadriel, looking at Frodo. &#039;But we will not here speak of it more openly. Yet not in vain will it prove, maybe, that you came to this land seeking aid, as Gandalf himself plainly purposed. For the Lord of the Galadhrim is accounted the wisest of the Elves of Middle- earth, and a giver of gifts beyond the power of kings. He has dwelt in the West since the days of dawn, and I have dwelt with him years uncounted; for ere the fall of Nargothrond or Gondolin I passed over the mountains, and together through ages of the world we have fought the long defeat.&quot;

- [Galadriel, Chapter 19, The Mirror of Galadriel, LOTR]

 Keep fighting. If  the Birchers and the Perotistas doin&#039;t see the light this time, they never will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Your quest is known to us,&#8217; said Galadriel, looking at Frodo. &#8216;But we will not here speak of it more openly. Yet not in vain will it prove, maybe, that you came to this land seeking aid, as Gandalf himself plainly purposed. For the Lord of the Galadhrim is accounted the wisest of the Elves of Middle- earth, and a giver of gifts beyond the power of kings. He has dwelt in the West since the days of dawn, and I have dwelt with him years uncounted; for ere the fall of Nargothrond or Gondolin I passed over the mountains, and together through ages of the world we have fought the long defeat.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; [Galadriel, Chapter 19, The Mirror of Galadriel, LOTR]</p>
<p> Keep fighting. If  the Birchers and the Perotistas doin&#8217;t see the light this time, they never will.</p>
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		By: Bob From Virginia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 21:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with those who say Romney will win the popular vote but lose the EV.  Recounts like the one that elected Al Franken in MN will see to that.  To which I say good; the problem with Obama was never that he was a knave but that the electorate was stupid enough to elect someone like him.  Another four years of him should teach a few more of his besotted nincompoops not to vote on the basis of looks.  An economic and military collapse is a hard way to learn a lesson but there does not seem to be any other way.

BTW is there a single definitive poll that gives Romney OH and one other state?  I hear a lot of what could be called circumstantial evidence but nothing conclusive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with those who say Romney will win the popular vote but lose the EV.  Recounts like the one that elected Al Franken in MN will see to that.  To which I say good; the problem with Obama was never that he was a knave but that the electorate was stupid enough to elect someone like him.  Another four years of him should teach a few more of his besotted nincompoops not to vote on the basis of looks.  An economic and military collapse is a hard way to learn a lesson but there does not seem to be any other way.</p>
<p>BTW is there a single definitive poll that gives Romney OH and one other state?  I hear a lot of what could be called circumstantial evidence but nothing conclusive.</p>
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		By: Brad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 21:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Occam:
I&#039;m not really even going to engage in argument about this with you as I&#039;m sure you can pull a bunch of bullshit out of your ass and obfuscate the issue. If I give you one source you&#039;d say he or she is biased. If I gave you a study about a single election , you&#039;d find another one that dissed Democrats or complain that the study wasn&#039;t definitive.

The point isn&#039;t which freaking party is &quot;most guilty&quot; the point is that it is relatively easy to do, and wouldn&#039;t necessarily be easy to prove.

I suggest looking askance at any State where you can&#039;t get some sort of &quot;receipt&quot; for your vote and they use electronic machines and at any state where they unreasonably intefere with election observers if they are using manual methods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam:<br />
I&#8217;m not really even going to engage in argument about this with you as I&#8217;m sure you can pull a bunch of bullshit out of your ass and obfuscate the issue. If I give you one source you&#8217;d say he or she is biased. If I gave you a study about a single election , you&#8217;d find another one that dissed Democrats or complain that the study wasn&#8217;t definitive.</p>
<p>The point isn&#8217;t which freaking party is &#8220;most guilty&#8221; the point is that it is relatively easy to do, and wouldn&#8217;t necessarily be easy to prove.</p>
<p>I suggest looking askance at any State where you can&#8217;t get some sort of &#8220;receipt&#8221; for your vote and they use electronic machines and at any state where they unreasonably intefere with election observers if they are using manual methods.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 19:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Prop 31 here in California ...&lt;/i&gt;

... exemplifies exactly what is wrong here. The state voter information guide describes it in vague platitudes (always a bad sign here in CA). It provides for &quot;local governments to &#039;create plans for coordinating&#039; how they could provides services to the public. (Whatever that means.)

The best part: &quot;If local governments find that a state law or regulation restricts their ability to carry out their plan, they could develop local procedures that are &lt;i&gt;&quot;functionally equivalent&quot;&lt;/i&gt; (quotes in original) to the &lt;i&gt;objectives&lt;/i&gt; of the existing state law or regulation.&quot;

So ... state law is ... uh ... optional, kind of a suggestion, really, to be followed or not as one sees fit. 

And who decides what is &quot;functionally equivalent,&quot; or is that a stupid question? 

Bottom line: Prop. 31 is CA&#039;s answer to the Enabling Act.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Prop 31 here in California &#8230;</i></p>
<p>&#8230; exemplifies exactly what is wrong here. The state voter information guide describes it in vague platitudes (always a bad sign here in CA). It provides for &#8220;local governments to &#8216;create plans for coordinating&#8217; how they could provides services to the public. (Whatever that means.)</p>
<p>The best part: &#8220;If local governments find that a state law or regulation restricts their ability to carry out their plan, they could develop local procedures that are <i>&#8220;functionally equivalent&#8221;</i> (quotes in original) to the <i>objectives</i> of the existing state law or regulation.&#8221;</p>
<p>So &#8230; state law is &#8230; uh &#8230; optional, kind of a suggestion, really, to be followed or not as one sees fit. </p>
<p>And who decides what is &#8220;functionally equivalent,&#8221; or is that a stupid question? </p>
<p>Bottom line: Prop. 31 is CA&#8217;s answer to the Enabling Act.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 19:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;there REALLY IS cause to be concerned about US electorial fraud on both sides in part due to lax security with electronic voting machines, lack of paper records, that sort of thing. That’s on top of the traditional dead voters , multiple voters, and etc. that Democrats and Repubs have done in the past.&lt;/i&gt;

Evidence of Republicans doing this, please, or feather the moral equivalence. Electoral fraud has been a core value of the Democrat Party since Tammany Hall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>there REALLY IS cause to be concerned about US electorial fraud on both sides in part due to lax security with electronic voting machines, lack of paper records, that sort of thing. That’s on top of the traditional dead voters , multiple voters, and etc. that Democrats and Repubs have done in the past.</i></p>
<p>Evidence of Republicans doing this, please, or feather the moral equivalence. Electoral fraud has been a core value of the Democrat Party since Tammany Hall.</p>
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