Comments on: Hating the media and yet being influenced by it

By: Curtis

Curtis — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:15:31 +0000

This one’s for you, Kolniai.

The music and pictures are great. The words I find ironic as they are a little bit off Scotish, at least ancestral Scotish. Too PC. Too baby country. Too much hippie. But, at our roots, we are all tree huggers and nature lovers.

Am I right in that you have some Scotish or Welsh or something like that. Irish?

Anyway, for what it’s worth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kehTezsH2fE

By: Curtis

Curtis — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:50:52 +0000

Kolnia, too kind of you to say.

I sound my barbaric YAWP for you tonight, Although I fear it has become quite tame.
Since the fulsome highway to your fire light
Passes o’er but does not stop the fiery flame.

By: KLSmith

KLSmith — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:30:37 +0000

waltj: You probably know better than me because I cancelled my subscription in 2008. Just going by what I read about them from other sources. They aren’t as bad as NYT but, that isn’t saying much.
I supported (paid for their paper) longer than I should have.

By: kolnai

kolnai — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:00:28 +0000

Curtis –

It was forgotten as soon as you wrote it. Brothers often get snippy with each other. Your intentions aren’t malign, so I don’t take it personally.

And as someone who also goes to dark places, I fully understand. Far be it from me to cast the first stone on that score.

By: Michael Kent

Michael Kent — Tue, 30 Oct 2012 01:36:27 +0000

I’m always amazed at the extent to which even MSM-hating conservatives accept the MSM narrative at face value.

The point really struck me in 2003 hearing liberals scream “Iraq is a quagmire, quagmire, quagmire, and it’s all Bush’s fault!” only to hear conservatives reply “Iraq is a quagmire, quagmire, quagmire, and it’s all Democrats’ fault!” Meanwhile I’m reading on The Fourth Rail about how coalition forces are systematically rolling up the insurgency village by village.

No matter how vocal the conservatives were in opposition to the MSM, they bought the core of the Narrative hook, line, and sinker.

By: waltj

waltj — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:53:57 +0000

@KLSmith: I thought the WaPo’s Graham-Bradlee family sold its interest in the paper a few years back following Katharine Graham’s death. If not, I stand corrected. But it’s true that they did change editors. I’ll have to disagree with you on the paper’s slant, however. I’ve noticed the Post becoming more willing to challenge the liberal narrative, particularly on foreign policy. Again, it’s not a conservative paper by any stretch, but I’ve seen a healthy tendency for it to be less of a left-wing amen chorus than it was 10 years ago. And its endorsement of 0bama this election seemed downright tortured in places.

By: sergey

sergey — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:30:51 +0000

I can see why people refuse to accept reality as it is: this would inevitably shatter into pieces the whole idea of moral order of universe. Only rare individuals are brave enough to cope with this. To most people the suffering of seeing this truth is unbearable.

By: Curtis

Curtis — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:14:39 +0000

My apologies to you Kolnai for my remarks on yesterday’s post. I must have been in my “dark” place. Other people have happy places to go to. I have a dark place.

Seriously, I do apologize. The remarks were stupid and vapid and without merit.

By: kaba

kaba — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:51:50 +0000

The MSM is ubiquitous. I listen to conservative talk radio daily but the twice hourly news updates are provided by CNN or ABC news. And if their message isn’t coordinated they certainly parrot each other.

So at the end of the day I hear the message Du jour about 10 to 15 times.

By: KLSmith

KLSmith — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:23:59 +0000

waltj: agree with your comments except about Wapo. Heartily disagree. They are just as liberal as ever, even though they allow Krauthammer & Will to appear on the op-ed page. Also wasn’t aware they’ve changed ownership. Sure you don’t mean editor?