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		By: MissJean		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-443030</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MissJean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OB, you haven&#039;t met any serious advocates of revoking women&#039;s voting rights, have you? Scary guys, very unAmerican.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OB, you haven&#8217;t met any serious advocates of revoking women&#8217;s voting rights, have you? Scary guys, very unAmerican.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-442680</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[you&#039;ve come a long way baby... 

i wonder what they will do in another 90 years given they have come so far]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;ve come a long way baby&#8230; </p>
<p>i wonder what they will do in another 90 years given they have come so far</p>
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		By: Simon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-442606</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 05:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love her show and quite liked Tiny Funiture, but I do wish she would cover up those awful tatoos. And this ad sucks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love her show and quite liked Tiny Funiture, but I do wish she would cover up those awful tatoos. And this ad sucks.</p>
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		By: Ed Bonderenka		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-442435</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed Bonderenka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2012 00:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trimegistus:&quot;Resoundingly beaten. Beaten the way Japan and Germany were beaten.&quot;
I said this on Bennett a few months ago.
An example must be made.
By God I hope the next AG is allowed to prosecute.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trimegistus:&#8221;Resoundingly beaten. Beaten the way Japan and Germany were beaten.&#8221;<br />
I said this on Bennett a few months ago.<br />
An example must be made.<br />
By God I hope the next AG is allowed to prosecute.</p>
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		By: John F. MacMichael		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-442407</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John F. MacMichael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This ad looks like one used by the Sandinistas and described by P. J. O&#039;Rourke in his report on the election in Nicaragua in 1989 (?).  A poster showed a good looking young couple wearing Sandinista red scarfs and holding hands. The slogan was (in Spanish) &quot;When you do it for the first time, do it for love!&quot;.  It was meant to encourage the youth vote (voting age had been dropped to 16 for the occaision).

Of course, when the actual votes were counted in that election, the Sandinistas were soundly defeated much to the shock and dismay of leftists around the world.

We can only hope the American electorate proves as intelligent today as the Nicaraguans did then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This ad looks like one used by the Sandinistas and described by P. J. O&#8217;Rourke in his report on the election in Nicaragua in 1989 (?).  A poster showed a good looking young couple wearing Sandinista red scarfs and holding hands. The slogan was (in Spanish) &#8220;When you do it for the first time, do it for love!&#8221;.  It was meant to encourage the youth vote (voting age had been dropped to 16 for the occaision).</p>
<p>Of course, when the actual votes were counted in that election, the Sandinistas were soundly defeated much to the shock and dismay of leftists around the world.</p>
<p>We can only hope the American electorate proves as intelligent today as the Nicaraguans did then.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-442389</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rickl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From Instapundit:

http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/unwantedpresidency.jpg

Heh, to coin a phrase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Instapundit:</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/unwantedpresidency.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/unwantedpresidency.jpg</a></p>
<p>Heh, to coin a phrase.</p>
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		By: CV		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-442361</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Julia NYC,

I know what you mean about Dunham&#039;s show as a funny but sadly accurate social commentary. If I thought Dunham herself actually had a moral core of some sort I could appreciate it at that level.

But Dunham&#039;s Obama ad just proves what I&#039;ve suspected all along about her. She simply can&#039;t connect the dots between her &quot;lifestyle choices&quot; and lack of self-respect. For her there&#039;s  a big financial payoff in all this, but for the vast majority of her peers it&#039;s just the opposite.

In many ways it feels like this close election might actually decided by stupid young women like Dunham.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia NYC,</p>
<p>I know what you mean about Dunham&#8217;s show as a funny but sadly accurate social commentary. If I thought Dunham herself actually had a moral core of some sort I could appreciate it at that level.</p>
<p>But Dunham&#8217;s Obama ad just proves what I&#8217;ve suspected all along about her. She simply can&#8217;t connect the dots between her &#8220;lifestyle choices&#8221; and lack of self-respect. For her there&#8217;s  a big financial payoff in all this, but for the vast majority of her peers it&#8217;s just the opposite.</p>
<p>In many ways it feels like this close election might actually decided by stupid young women like Dunham.</p>
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		By: Julia NYC		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-442353</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julia NYC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ugh.  What a dopey ad.  So embarrassing how  liberal women are so pressured to be sexualized and slutty. I used to be a liberal woman myself and I was far more respected by conservative men than I ever was by liberal dudes.     I actually am a fan of her show &quot;Girls&quot;.  I think it is hilarious, but sad and nihilistic and disturbing.  However it&#039;s pretty accurate of a certain class of New York female, and I can&#039;t help but watch it in a sort of horror and recognition and admiration for how well done it is.  But I certainly understand why some people hate it.  It&#039;s pretty offensive.  But this ad is just ghastly.  I may not be able to watch &quot;Girls&quot; anymore now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh.  What a dopey ad.  So embarrassing how  liberal women are so pressured to be sexualized and slutty. I used to be a liberal woman myself and I was far more respected by conservative men than I ever was by liberal dudes.     I actually am a fan of her show &#8220;Girls&#8221;.  I think it is hilarious, but sad and nihilistic and disturbing.  However it&#8217;s pretty accurate of a certain class of New York female, and I can&#8217;t help but watch it in a sort of horror and recognition and admiration for how well done it is.  But I certainly understand why some people hate it.  It&#8217;s pretty offensive.  But this ad is just ghastly.  I may not be able to watch &#8220;Girls&#8221; anymore now.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-442292</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo-neocon Says: 
&quot; Trimegistus: but since Obama won with the “anointed one” approach in 2008, he has already proven it can be successful with Americans. It will be tried again even if he is defeated in 2012, if the right combination of factors (and the right candidate} emerges. Americans, after all, are humans, and humans are susceptible to this sort of thing. Resisting it depends on maintaining our ability to transmit our traditions and values (including that of liberty) to the younger generations. We have not succeeded in that task.&quot;


Many would not wish to succeed, as a number of excellent observations made clear in describing:  &quot;the nililism&quot;  ... of someone who ... &quot;You’d almost never guess [would] enslave everyone around her and destroy modern medicine to prove how compassionate she is&quot;... ; a social symptom of, &quot; ... free-born Americans [now] yearning for a master ... &quot; a case of Obama’s “Julia” in the flesh&quot;, realized .


But then, as regards freedom, what use has a post modern nihilist for any freedom apart from the &quot;freedom&quot; to have its inchoate expressions attended to, and its physical and emotional pleasures underwritten by others who are tasked to its support?

What&#039;s the big deal with this negative liberty business anyway? 

The post modern recognizes that they are ultimately going nowhere to no ultimate purpose. That life is their being propelled aimlessly along under the inertia of a congerie of appetites and impulses which are sustained by a half-conscious will pointlessly dedicated to their service.

Politics then, is just the matter of socially determining who in this no-exit world shall be anointed the performers, and who shall be relegated to the paying audience.

Justice: as a place for everyone, and everyone in his place; till the curtain comes down for good.

Modern Liberalism&#039;s fundamental interpretive axiom then is: We&#039;re going nowhere, but goddamn it, you had better accept that we&#039;re all going there yoked together ... or else.

You see, it&#039;s called &quot;caring&quot;. A kind of huckstering, but one we can all believe in ... or be made to believe in.


Her father, and his subject. http://artforum.com/diary/id=12983]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo-neocon Says:<br />
&#8221; Trimegistus: but since Obama won with the “anointed one” approach in 2008, he has already proven it can be successful with Americans. It will be tried again even if he is defeated in 2012, if the right combination of factors (and the right candidate} emerges. Americans, after all, are humans, and humans are susceptible to this sort of thing. Resisting it depends on maintaining our ability to transmit our traditions and values (including that of liberty) to the younger generations. We have not succeeded in that task.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many would not wish to succeed, as a number of excellent observations made clear in describing:  &#8220;the nililism&#8221;  &#8230; of someone who &#8230; &#8220;You’d almost never guess [would] enslave everyone around her and destroy modern medicine to prove how compassionate she is&#8221;&#8230; ; a social symptom of, &#8221; &#8230; free-born Americans [now] yearning for a master &#8230; &#8221; a case of Obama’s “Julia” in the flesh&#8221;, realized .</p>
<p>But then, as regards freedom, what use has a post modern nihilist for any freedom apart from the &#8220;freedom&#8221; to have its inchoate expressions attended to, and its physical and emotional pleasures underwritten by others who are tasked to its support?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the big deal with this negative liberty business anyway? </p>
<p>The post modern recognizes that they are ultimately going nowhere to no ultimate purpose. That life is their being propelled aimlessly along under the inertia of a congerie of appetites and impulses which are sustained by a half-conscious will pointlessly dedicated to their service.</p>
<p>Politics then, is just the matter of socially determining who in this no-exit world shall be anointed the performers, and who shall be relegated to the paying audience.</p>
<p>Justice: as a place for everyone, and everyone in his place; till the curtain comes down for good.</p>
<p>Modern Liberalism&#8217;s fundamental interpretive axiom then is: We&#8217;re going nowhere, but goddamn it, you had better accept that we&#8217;re all going there yoked together &#8230; or else.</p>
<p>You see, it&#8217;s called &#8220;caring&#8221;. A kind of huckstering, but one we can all believe in &#8230; or be made to believe in.</p>
<p>Her father, and his subject. <a href="http://artforum.com/diary/id=12983" rel="nofollow ugc">http://artforum.com/diary/id=12983</a></p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/10/25/from-classless/#comment-442285</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MissJean, no one said anything about property.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MissJean, no one said anything about property.</p>
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