I think I understand the hot emotions that you have over this topic. That being said, lambasting anyone who appears not to think just like you do, is not a discussion, it’s a kind of a verbal brawl. Please try to avoid them.

I did not say that the President should apologize for him or the U.S.A., or imply that he is apologizing, over this situation, because I believe that an apology is incorrect for this situation. I always have.

I did not say apologize, I said the word, [regret].

I have a Webster’s Dictionary on my shelf, and this is the main definition for the word, regret, and it is the definition that I used:

“regret- the emotion arising from a wish that some matter or situation could be different from what it is”.

This is the definition that I used. It is not an apology. An apology, is to say that you are sorry for an act or situation, and that you might have some responsibility for that act or situation.

I had posted my idea as just that, [an idea], as in “here is a possible act, let’s talk about it, do you think it will work?” I never said that this idea was something that the President, or anyone [must] do.

A few of you read “regret” and too quickly thought I was saying “let’s apologize”. And then a few people reacted hotly + with anger over it. I can see why you reacted that way, but please try a different approach if I post something, that you think provokes you.

Try asking:

“Hm, TR, It sounds like you’re asking for the President to apologize, here. That really sounds offensive to me. Is that what you meant to say?”

If you ask me to explain something that I posted, and you do it in a calm + reasoned way, maybe you’ll find out that I didn’t mean, “apology”, or that I didn’t mean to do anything else that offended or bugged you.

I ask that, if my post bugged you, or made you feel anything else negative, that you look at your written response, and think about what my post says, without the idea of “an apology” in it.

And, a few people sent me posts that sound like: insults, intolerance, and judgmental ideas.

I kind of understand how reading something that upsets you can make you get too mad and react like that. However, if you respond to me in: insulting ways, intolerant ways, or ways with judgmental ideas, I probably won’t respond. Those are things and behaviors that I do not tolerate. Please do not expect that I will.

If you feel odd or badly about some post that I have made, please reasonably and politely ask me what I’m talking about. And I will do my best to explain my posts, and discuss things with you in a reasonable and polite way. Thanks. That’s all.

Thus, believing–based on oh, I don’t know, just the mountain of the last 1,400 years of evidence–that you cannot believe a word Muslims, and especially their leaders say, I would not believe a word that comes out of the mouth of the current leader in Libya concerning how the mob somehow overcame his guard forces.

To quote Turkey’s President Erdogan, there is not a moderate and a radical Islam, “There is only one Islam.”

The Jihad is real, the Jihad is 1,400 years old, is based on the world-view, imperative, primary commands of Allah, Muhammad, and the Qur’an, and the ultimate objectives of Islam, and is quite alive and operative here and now.

Did we dare to open our eyes and admit it, this is WWIII, fought out, all over the world, on battlefields and in court rooms and newsrooms and on the Internet and TV, and this sacking of our embassy and murder of our Ambassador and diplomatic personnel is merely one assault on one battlefield in one theater of operations, and our government’s denial, willful ignorance, and fearful, cringing, apologetic stance, coupled with toothless Presidential bluster abut “protecting the lives of every American” aids our enemy greatly, and gifts them with half or more of the final victory already won.

“TR, I’d laugh at your absurd suggestion, were it not that I suspect you are quite serious.

Obama has spent far too much time already apologizing for America. It is not appropriate on any level that he grovel over the exercising of a fundamental American right, no matter how pathetic or ill advised the resulting demonstration of free speech (in this case a craptastically poor piece of filmwork) might be.

Islamofascists do not respect apologies anyway; their response invariably is “Die infidel!” An apology only serves to reinforce their notion of moral superiority. ”

Good to know. Wasn’t trying to tick you off. To be clear, that wassn’t meant as an apology. If you’ll allow me to reply:
firstly, the beginning of my post says [this is my opinion]. And an opinion can be workable in realpolitik, or not workable in realpolitik, or anywhere in between.

I purposefully chose the word, regret. I used the word, “regret”, in the sense of ” we wish this hadn’t happened. I did not use it in replace of the word: apology.
If I had meant to write my post as an apology for Obama to make, It would have been smaller.

I don’t know if you lean that way, but yeah, I would like to see Obama say to the criminals + the protestors doing crime + killings in the Middle East: [respect us, and don’t attack us, or me + my military will find ways to kick your _ss and crush all of our enemies!…whoever they are!…],

But, in seeing his performance as a weak-willed President + commander, I don’t think that’s something he will do.

That’s Mr. O, for ya.

Ludic comedy, sick comedy, the comedy of the United States as a drunken bumbling incoherent Santa Claus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cIN2SQ4ANA

As JJ says from time to time: It is to weep.

on another note.. the war i have been talking about since before obama’s election is here.

and no the Mayan calendar didn’t predict it. but the prediction may have been used to hide it a bit – as such a prediction makes people near its time of effect believe differently about the same information. in our case, the desire to believe its not true, creates a blind to information that would point that way as to fulfill that desire. think of it as overcompensation.

Armada of British naval power massing in the Gulf as Israel prepares an Iran strike

An armada of US and British naval power is massing in the Persian Gulf in the belief that Israel is considering a pre-emptive strike against Iran’s covert nuclear weapons programme.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/9545597/Armada-of-British-naval-power-massing-in-the-Gulf-as-Israel-prepares-an-Iran-strike.html

its gonna be a hot time, in the igloo tonight…

because the Chinese are storming Japanese embassy/consulates… and other things happening too outside the focus given the focus.

in case anyone forgot, the Russian fleet is already in the area over Syria, and a few other things. and this has always complicated and tied things up with problems during actions in that areas (see six day war).

just dont forget this too:
Russian Nuclear Attack Sub Patrolled Waters Off Gulf for a Month…Undetected
http://freebeacon.com/silent-running/

NLAF Intercepts More Bears
http://tinyurl.com/9byauzm
Two Royal Netherlands Air Force (RNLAF) F-16s on quick action alert this morning intercepted a pair of Russian Tu-95 Bear bombers flying in Dutch airspace without identifying themselves.

and
Two Russian bombers with nuclear capability have been intercepted near the west coast of the United States for the second time in two weeks. The Russians broke across the 200-mile U.S. air defense intrusion zone surrounding U.S. territory and were met by U.S. interceptor jets

that was around july 4

but they did that before that too
Russia Violates U.S. Airspace
Northcom says Russian nuclear bombers violated U.S. airspace during arctic war games
http://freebeacon.com/russia-violates-u-s-airspace/

they have also done it to Canada, and so frequently to the UK that they were worried about collisions with civilian airlines traveling.

Two Russian bombers, capable of carrying nuclear weapons, have been caught flying over British airspace.
http://news.sky.com/story/767880/russian-nuke-bombers-invade-uk-airspace

and Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 (august), took territory, and now has kept it.

and what of the chinese seizing island by using activists, the japanese ejecting them, and now they are really at it..

The disputed islands in the East China Sea, also claimed by Taiwan, lie on a vital shipping route and are surrounded by large hydrocarbon deposits beneath them.

Japan says it has controlled the islands since 1895 until its surrender at the end of World War II.

The islands were controlled by the US from 1945 to 1972 and subsequently returned to Japan’s control. China claims the islands’ discovery and control since the 14th century.

Tokyo says its rivals only became vocal over the issue in the 1970s upon the discovery of valuable minerals.

and the middle east is not the only ones protesting US peoples artistic sensibilities

Sponsor of anti-China mural in US ignores Beijing’s protests
http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_Detail.aspx?ID=201209160018&Type=aIPL

all kinds of stuff now is happening at once… probably because its too much to handle for someone who cant handle it, and if they all happen at once its easy pickings all over. surprise!

But common sense is not their specialty.

I believe I already covered this at length in another thread.

They are liberals. Their DEFINING QUALITY is an almost total lack of wisdom aka “common sense”.

They CANNOT learn from experience — “Gain Wisdom”…

If there were a “Wisdom Quotient” test to match the “Intelligence Quotient” test, then liberals would consistently, to the point of uniformity, rank in the bottom quartile of the bell curve. There’s not a lick of common sense in the lot.