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		By: foxmarks		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/31/getting-to-know-romney-the-do-gooder/#comment-410121</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 03:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These were great speeches, and there is an aspect of Romney as a Good Man. But as these commoners were tugging at heartstrings, I was getting updates from TEA and RP friends at the convention.

From the way the Rules Committee handled things, and the Romney campaign’s snubbing of grassroots factions, he has shown another aspect. Along with his personal virtue, he is a man enamored with power and control. Knowing what was going on behind the stage-managed scene, all I saw during these speeches was a portrait of a two-faced bastard.

I expect y’all will dismiss this as another outburst of my Romney-hatred. But if this is the most important election ever, and is expected to be close, only a fool would squelch a significant faction of potential support. Sure, I was never voting for Mitt. But my pallys were mostly prepared to hold their noses.

Not anymore. The TEA and RP factions are in a fight with the RNC over rules that centralize power. If Romney, as the leader of the party does not engineer a rules change, he will lose much grassroots energy his campaign needs.

It is perhaps the Bain Way to control the entire enterprise. But the Bain Way is not the American Way. You’ve picked the wrong horse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These were great speeches, and there is an aspect of Romney as a Good Man. But as these commoners were tugging at heartstrings, I was getting updates from TEA and RP friends at the convention.</p>
<p>From the way the Rules Committee handled things, and the Romney campaign’s snubbing of grassroots factions, he has shown another aspect. Along with his personal virtue, he is a man enamored with power and control. Knowing what was going on behind the stage-managed scene, all I saw during these speeches was a portrait of a two-faced bastard.</p>
<p>I expect y’all will dismiss this as another outburst of my Romney-hatred. But if this is the most important election ever, and is expected to be close, only a fool would squelch a significant faction of potential support. Sure, I was never voting for Mitt. But my pallys were mostly prepared to hold their noses.</p>
<p>Not anymore. The TEA and RP factions are in a fight with the RNC over rules that centralize power. If Romney, as the leader of the party does not engineer a rules change, he will lose much grassroots energy his campaign needs.</p>
<p>It is perhaps the Bain Way to control the entire enterprise. But the Bain Way is not the American Way. You’ve picked the wrong horse.</p>
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		By: richard40		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/31/getting-to-know-romney-the-do-gooder/#comment-409973</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 20:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree the comparison of Romney as the quiet guy who was constantly doing personal good work that nobody knew about, with the Narcisistic Obama, constantly creating the grandious image, while actually doing little to nothing himself, is quite a contrast.  A definition of Honor I once heard is &quot;doing the right thing when nobody is looking&quot;.  Romney has nonor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the comparison of Romney as the quiet guy who was constantly doing personal good work that nobody knew about, with the Narcisistic Obama, constantly creating the grandious image, while actually doing little to nothing himself, is quite a contrast.  A definition of Honor I once heard is &#8220;doing the right thing when nobody is looking&#8221;.  Romney has nonor.</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/31/getting-to-know-romney-the-do-gooder/#comment-409086</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 04:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, I just realized that you, and a host of your readers, have expended time and energy to convince one who has no intention of being convinced.

It is clearly a waste of time.  Steve  is either oblivious to fact and reality, or he is one of those people who just argue for their own amusement.  Of course he does not argue with fact, but simply with his own distorted opinion.

I am sorry that I ever chimed in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, I just realized that you, and a host of your readers, have expended time and energy to convince one who has no intention of being convinced.</p>
<p>It is clearly a waste of time.  Steve  is either oblivious to fact and reality, or he is one of those people who just argue for their own amusement.  Of course he does not argue with fact, but simply with his own distorted opinion.</p>
<p>I am sorry that I ever chimed in.</p>
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		By: bmusic65		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/31/getting-to-know-romney-the-do-gooder/#comment-409070</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reading all the different responses and comments, &#039;Steve&#039; seems to stand out most with his cynical view of another&#039;s virtues which include charity, compassion and kindness bundled with physical and emotional empathetic actions taught straight from the Bible. NO, I am not LDS. I cannot hold myself up to the attributes this man and his family have given. If you have not gone to church from youth through adulthood, you cannot grasp the &#039;idea&#039; of selfless love of mankind. This does not mean a person is perfect; but means that person is trying to live the life as proscribed by the Bible. Mr Romney and his wife have taken seriously the teachings and demands of the Bible and led by example to teach their own children in this incredible tribute to God&#039;s mandates. Must they be brought out and carried around like a neon sign at this point in time? Probably not something this family wants, I&#039;m sure, because there is a certain humility that one learns serving others in dire straits. What is that? It goes along with the old saying, &quot;there, but for the Grace of God, go I&quot;. It makes one truly thankful for the blessings great or small we&#039;ve received at the most unexpected times, especially when we don&#039;t feel we earned or deserved them. But then, we are even more thankful to be loved by God&#039;s constant watchfulness and his Angels of mercy. And in that state, we reach out even more to others in less than desirable situations. I would be humbled to know Mr Romney and his family, let alone know them as personal friends, even though I think that I would feel like a good friend to them anyway. As I stated before, one must come from a childhood of going to a church that teaches what the Bible says, not what the parson wants us to hear or tell us &#039;warm fuzzy&#039; sermons so we feel &#039;special&#039; and don&#039;t have to do anything to earn our way in life and into the eternity of Heaven. So, don&#039;t mock this man and his family. As one respondent stated, it has become necessary to point out the common decency of this family and most particularly, of this man who would be president of America. His opponents, and don&#039;t mistake them for anything else, are working at warp speed to denigrate, destroy and dessicate this man into ashes. Is he going to be the first person to turning this country around? I most fervently hope he can with the help of changing the face of the House of Representatives and the Senate to a conservative majority and eventually bringing SCOTUS to a court that deals with each issue according to the Constitution as it is written. It will take in my estimation, 20 to 30 years to take back our country. So we all need to &#039;man up&#039; or &#039;put on our big girl panties&#039; and DEAL with it. 

Yours in Freedom and Liberty,
BMusic]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reading all the different responses and comments, &#8216;Steve&#8217; seems to stand out most with his cynical view of another&#8217;s virtues which include charity, compassion and kindness bundled with physical and emotional empathetic actions taught straight from the Bible. NO, I am not LDS. I cannot hold myself up to the attributes this man and his family have given. If you have not gone to church from youth through adulthood, you cannot grasp the &#8216;idea&#8217; of selfless love of mankind. This does not mean a person is perfect; but means that person is trying to live the life as proscribed by the Bible. Mr Romney and his wife have taken seriously the teachings and demands of the Bible and led by example to teach their own children in this incredible tribute to God&#8217;s mandates. Must they be brought out and carried around like a neon sign at this point in time? Probably not something this family wants, I&#8217;m sure, because there is a certain humility that one learns serving others in dire straits. What is that? It goes along with the old saying, &#8220;there, but for the Grace of God, go I&#8221;. It makes one truly thankful for the blessings great or small we&#8217;ve received at the most unexpected times, especially when we don&#8217;t feel we earned or deserved them. But then, we are even more thankful to be loved by God&#8217;s constant watchfulness and his Angels of mercy. And in that state, we reach out even more to others in less than desirable situations. I would be humbled to know Mr Romney and his family, let alone know them as personal friends, even though I think that I would feel like a good friend to them anyway. As I stated before, one must come from a childhood of going to a church that teaches what the Bible says, not what the parson wants us to hear or tell us &#8216;warm fuzzy&#8217; sermons so we feel &#8216;special&#8217; and don&#8217;t have to do anything to earn our way in life and into the eternity of Heaven. So, don&#8217;t mock this man and his family. As one respondent stated, it has become necessary to point out the common decency of this family and most particularly, of this man who would be president of America. His opponents, and don&#8217;t mistake them for anything else, are working at warp speed to denigrate, destroy and dessicate this man into ashes. Is he going to be the first person to turning this country around? I most fervently hope he can with the help of changing the face of the House of Representatives and the Senate to a conservative majority and eventually bringing SCOTUS to a court that deals with each issue according to the Constitution as it is written. It will take in my estimation, 20 to 30 years to take back our country. So we all need to &#8216;man up&#8217; or &#8216;put on our big girl panties&#8217; and DEAL with it. </p>
<p>Yours in Freedom and Liberty,<br />
BMusic</p>
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		By: richard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/31/getting-to-know-romney-the-do-gooder/#comment-409064</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are there any stories like this about Obama?
Is there anyone, anywhere who has been personally helped by Obama?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any stories like this about Obama?<br />
Is there anyone, anywhere who has been personally helped by Obama?</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/31/getting-to-know-romney-the-do-gooder/#comment-409054</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/06/26/romneycare__a_revolution_that_basically_worked/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s&lt;/a&gt; the corrected link.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2011/06/26/romneycare__a_revolution_that_basically_worked/" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s</a> the corrected link.</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/31/getting-to-know-romney-the-do-gooder/#comment-409053</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My wife tells me I am too cynical.  She never met Steve.  The acts of kindness discussed last night occurred long before Romney entered politics.  If he thinks so far ahead that he goes to the bedside of a terminally ill teen years, maybe decades before he enters politics, just so that one day decades later he use it; then I think he would make a great President.  At least he would be thinking beyond the next golf game or vacation.

Somehow I think that couple who described his interaction with their dying son, and that mother of the premature child were honest and sincere.  I also doubt that the self described Liberal Democrat woman from his cabinet would exaggerate in his favor.  But, if you think so, nothing will change your mind.

I am not an Analyst so I will not try to fine tune his motives.  I am sort of a Forrest Gump type; i.e., what you see is what you get.  To borrow from his philosophical musing;  If stupid is as stupid does, I would say that kindness is as kindness does.

Interesting that a few days ago people said we didn&#039;t know Romney; that he needed to reveal more of himself.  Today some people seem to be saying we know too much about Romney.  What are ya gonna do?

Today I was reminded that he took no pay for his 3 years with the Olympics, or for his four years as Governor.  I also learned that refused a $30 mil/year to come back into the world of business. An admittedly biased source revealed that he is no longer interested in making money, that he has enough, and is now in the &quot;give back mode&quot;.  But, who can you believe?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife tells me I am too cynical.  She never met Steve.  The acts of kindness discussed last night occurred long before Romney entered politics.  If he thinks so far ahead that he goes to the bedside of a terminally ill teen years, maybe decades before he enters politics, just so that one day decades later he use it; then I think he would make a great President.  At least he would be thinking beyond the next golf game or vacation.</p>
<p>Somehow I think that couple who described his interaction with their dying son, and that mother of the premature child were honest and sincere.  I also doubt that the self described Liberal Democrat woman from his cabinet would exaggerate in his favor.  But, if you think so, nothing will change your mind.</p>
<p>I am not an Analyst so I will not try to fine tune his motives.  I am sort of a Forrest Gump type; i.e., what you see is what you get.  To borrow from his philosophical musing;  If stupid is as stupid does, I would say that kindness is as kindness does.</p>
<p>Interesting that a few days ago people said we didn&#8217;t know Romney; that he needed to reveal more of himself.  Today some people seem to be saying we know too much about Romney.  What are ya gonna do?</p>
<p>Today I was reminded that he took no pay for his 3 years with the Olympics, or for his four years as Governor.  I also learned that refused a $30 mil/year to come back into the world of business. An admittedly biased source revealed that he is no longer interested in making money, that he has enough, and is now in the &#8220;give back mode&#8221;.  But, who can you believe?</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo, that summary you linked is confusing. It seems to be saying the same things over and over. Three points are that the legislature was 85% dem, that the system was broken, and that the mandate was originally a conservative idea. Not much of an argument really. Take a look at this more recent (and coherent) summary:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443687504577563000563259044.html

After reading that tell me why Romney cannot criticize a law that is if anything an example of what not to do. Again the fact that he defends it is an achievement is something that should make conservatives cringe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo, that summary you linked is confusing. It seems to be saying the same things over and over. Three points are that the legislature was 85% dem, that the system was broken, and that the mandate was originally a conservative idea. Not much of an argument really. Take a look at this more recent (and coherent) summary:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443687504577563000563259044.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443687504577563000563259044.html</a></p>
<p>After reading that tell me why Romney cannot criticize a law that is if anything an example of what not to do. Again the fact that he defends it is an achievement is something that should make conservatives cringe.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/31/getting-to-know-romney-the-do-gooder/#comment-409045</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve, you are assuming that Romney has always aimed for the presidency. I am not sure about that. I suspect that this particular run (after the last failed attempt) was provoked by his frustration at the flip-flop policies of Obama and Romney&#039;s knowledge of how they have affected the economy. He has been thinking of what to do about it for 4 years and he is not willing to let the same mistakes go on for another 4.
OMT, I followed the Olympics reporting in Germany. It was condescending and bad. There were even comments about how much fun it would be to visit SLC when Mormons don&#039;t drink. When the visitors returned home they were full of praise. Romney&#039;s success helped the reptation of middle Americans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, you are assuming that Romney has always aimed for the presidency. I am not sure about that. I suspect that this particular run (after the last failed attempt) was provoked by his frustration at the flip-flop policies of Obama and Romney&#8217;s knowledge of how they have affected the economy. He has been thinking of what to do about it for 4 years and he is not willing to let the same mistakes go on for another 4.<br />
OMT, I followed the Olympics reporting in Germany. It was condescending and bad. There were even comments about how much fun it would be to visit SLC when Mormons don&#8217;t drink. When the visitors returned home they were full of praise. Romney&#8217;s success helped the reptation of middle Americans.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 02:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve: it&#039;s an old article, and since then the &lt;i&gt;Boston Globe&lt;/i&gt; has become a paid site, so perhaps that&#039;s why the link doesn&#039;t work at this point.

I think you fail to understand the situation Romney faced in Massachusetts.  He doesn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;demand&lt;/i&gt; that it be overhauled because he&#039;s a federalist who believes Massachusetts has a right to plot its own destiny in this regard. Also, he is no longer governor of Massachusetts and hasn&#039;t been for a long time.  

What&#039;s more, he was very very limited in what he was able to get past the Massachusetts legislature, which at the time he was governor was something like 85% Democratic.  Anything he &quot;demanded&quot; would either not be voted in in the first place, or any veto (and he vetoed plenty) would be immediately overriden.  He had to work with what he had.  Within those confines, he did quite well, I think, in getting the laws that were passed to be as conservative as possible.  He refuses to condemn what he did because (a) he&#039;s a realist; and (b) he believes it was the solution &lt;i&gt;for Massachusetts&lt;/i&gt;, a liberal state; not for the country on the federal level.

There are plenty of other articles going into depth on what happened:&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whoromneyis.com/Issues/RomneyCareObamaCare.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&#039;s a summary page&lt;/a&gt; if you&#039;re interested in learning more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: it&#8217;s an old article, and since then the <i>Boston Globe</i> has become a paid site, so perhaps that&#8217;s why the link doesn&#8217;t work at this point.</p>
<p>I think you fail to understand the situation Romney faced in Massachusetts.  He doesn&#8217;t <i>demand</i> that it be overhauled because he&#8217;s a federalist who believes Massachusetts has a right to plot its own destiny in this regard. Also, he is no longer governor of Massachusetts and hasn&#8217;t been for a long time.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, he was very very limited in what he was able to get past the Massachusetts legislature, which at the time he was governor was something like 85% Democratic.  Anything he &#8220;demanded&#8221; would either not be voted in in the first place, or any veto (and he vetoed plenty) would be immediately overriden.  He had to work with what he had.  Within those confines, he did quite well, I think, in getting the laws that were passed to be as conservative as possible.  He refuses to condemn what he did because (a) he&#8217;s a realist; and (b) he believes it was the solution <i>for Massachusetts</i>, a liberal state; not for the country on the federal level.</p>
<p>There are plenty of other articles going into depth on what happened:<a href="http://www.whoromneyis.com/Issues/RomneyCareObamaCare.html" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s a summary page</a> if you&#8217;re interested in learning more.</p>
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