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		By: JFM		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/07/obama-at-columbia-the-lost-years-in-more-ways-than-one/#comment-397099</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JFM]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I am really brilliant.&quot;

&quot;Can I see your college transcripts that prove your brilliance?&quot;

&quot;No.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am really brilliant.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Can I see your college transcripts that prove your brilliance?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/07/obama-at-columbia-the-lost-years-in-more-ways-than-one/#comment-397070</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As for the newspaper notice of Obama&#039;s birth--no need to presume clairvoyance on the part of Obama&#039;s American family members, or some deep laid plan for him to one day become President.

It seems very rational to me that his mother and grandparents might have wanted to claim U.S. birth for a child, with all of the benefits it brings--comparable, I would imagine, to the benefits of being a &quot;Roman Citizen&quot; vs. being a non-citizen, a barbarian, in the Ancient world--as opposed to being a citizen of dirt poor, violence-wracked Kenya.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the newspaper notice of Obama&#8217;s birth&#8211;no need to presume clairvoyance on the part of Obama&#8217;s American family members, or some deep laid plan for him to one day become President.</p>
<p>It seems very rational to me that his mother and grandparents might have wanted to claim U.S. birth for a child, with all of the benefits it brings&#8211;comparable, I would imagine, to the benefits of being a &#8220;Roman Citizen&#8221; vs. being a non-citizen, a barbarian, in the Ancient world&#8211;as opposed to being a citizen of dirt poor, violence-wracked Kenya.</p>
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		By: IGotBupkis -- "Faecies Evenio", Mr. Holder?		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/07/obama-at-columbia-the-lost-years-in-more-ways-than-one/#comment-397057</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IGotBupkis -- "Faecies Evenio", Mr. Holder?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;The real smoking gun would be some more unusual facts...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve always presumed he was born in the USA, for the simple reason that there is purported to be a newspaper notice from HI announcing his birth. There is, literally, no conceivable reason to place such a notice falsely into the papers, unless you believe it&#039;s important to establish &quot;native&quot; birth. 

And I am aware of only one occupation where &quot;native&quot; birth is a critical factor... The Presidency.

And given the parental and grandparental attitudes, the notion that the racial attitudes would shift sufficiently in the course of only 50 years to allow The One to get elected is highly improbable. They would never have believed it, much less prepared ahead of time for it.

No, my own suspicion, which seems entirely in following with the mothers&#039; attitude, is that the long form -- and only the long form, lists &quot;Father: Unknown&quot;. That would be substantially embarrassing and still not require a ridiculous leap of reasoning to justify it getting withheld.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>The real smoking gun would be some more unusual facts&#8230;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve always presumed he was born in the USA, for the simple reason that there is purported to be a newspaper notice from HI announcing his birth. There is, literally, no conceivable reason to place such a notice falsely into the papers, unless you believe it&#8217;s important to establish &#8220;native&#8221; birth. </p>
<p>And I am aware of only one occupation where &#8220;native&#8221; birth is a critical factor&#8230; The Presidency.</p>
<p>And given the parental and grandparental attitudes, the notion that the racial attitudes would shift sufficiently in the course of only 50 years to allow The One to get elected is highly improbable. They would never have believed it, much less prepared ahead of time for it.</p>
<p>No, my own suspicion, which seems entirely in following with the mothers&#8217; attitude, is that the long form &#8212; and only the long form, lists &#8220;Father: Unknown&#8221;. That would be substantially embarrassing and still not require a ridiculous leap of reasoning to justify it getting withheld.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I read through quite a bit of Gringo&#039;s link. The people all seem to be telling of the facade Obama presented to them. Even if he had handlers, I&#039;m not sure that Obama wouldn&#039;t have considered himself in control of them. This all probably goes back to his totally dysfunctional upbringing.  At some point, he retreated into the world of theories and ideas and became convinced that he understood the world better than anyone else. This also gave him the advantage of not having to be coherent, or as he would call it, being pragmatic.

He flashes that &quot;smile&quot; all the time, but has  anyone ever detected any warmth in his eyes? Does anyone believe that he really cares about the poor, or does he just use them to convince himself of his own superiority?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read through quite a bit of Gringo&#8217;s link. The people all seem to be telling of the facade Obama presented to them. Even if he had handlers, I&#8217;m not sure that Obama wouldn&#8217;t have considered himself in control of them. This all probably goes back to his totally dysfunctional upbringing.  At some point, he retreated into the world of theories and ideas and became convinced that he understood the world better than anyone else. This also gave him the advantage of not having to be coherent, or as he would call it, being pragmatic.</p>
<p>He flashes that &#8220;smile&#8221; all the time, but has  anyone ever detected any warmth in his eyes? Does anyone believe that he really cares about the poor, or does he just use them to convince himself of his own superiority?</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 21:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not just another term, Baltimoron, but how he might handle defeat.

The question is whether he is his own man, in which case analyzing him is worthwhile, or is he not, in which case we need to figure out who&#039;s calling the shots (*cough* Soros *cough*), in which case we need to analyze &lt;i&gt;him&lt;/i&gt;.

If Barky&#039;s not his own man, figuring him out is as pointless as figuring out the psyche of a Shakespearean actor. The question is, who&#039;s writing the script?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just another term, Baltimoron, but how he might handle defeat.</p>
<p>The question is whether he is his own man, in which case analyzing him is worthwhile, or is he not, in which case we need to figure out who&#8217;s calling the shots (*cough* Soros *cough*), in which case we need to analyze <i>him</i>.</p>
<p>If Barky&#8217;s not his own man, figuring him out is as pointless as figuring out the psyche of a Shakespearean actor. The question is, who&#8217;s writing the script?</p>
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		By: Baltimoron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baltimoron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 20:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Occam - 
No, it won&#039;t.  As I said above, he&#039;s been president for three and a half years.  We don&#039;t need decades old college transcripts to tell us how the man will handle another term.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam &#8211;<br />
No, it won&#8217;t.  As I said above, he&#8217;s been president for three and a half years.  We don&#8217;t need decades old college transcripts to tell us how the man will handle another term.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/08/07/obama-at-columbia-the-lost-years-in-more-ways-than-one/#comment-396617</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 20:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It won’t change anyone’s opinion.&lt;/i&gt;

No, but it further insight into the provenance of this clown might give us a better idea of what will happen next.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It won’t change anyone’s opinion.</i></p>
<p>No, but it further insight into the provenance of this clown might give us a better idea of what will happen next.</p>
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		By: Baltimoron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baltimoron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 20:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t see what the big deal is here.  All this stuff might have been relevant four years ago when when people were trying to figure out what kind of guy Obama was and how he would do as president.
But now we know.  We&#039;ve had three and a half years of direct observation.
The only thing getting his transcripts might do (this is assuming they look bad) is give conservatives a talking point whenever a liberal starts going on about how smart the guy is.  It won&#039;t change anyone&#039;s opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what the big deal is here.  All this stuff might have been relevant four years ago when when people were trying to figure out what kind of guy Obama was and how he would do as president.<br />
But now we know.  We&#8217;ve had three and a half years of direct observation.<br />
The only thing getting his transcripts might do (this is assuming they look bad) is give conservatives a talking point whenever a liberal starts going on about how smart the guy is.  It won&#8217;t change anyone&#8217;s opinion.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 20:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I suspect that Obama made contact with Bill Ayers during his time at Columbia.&lt;/i&gt;

I take that as a given also. The question is whether Ayers played a role in Obama&#039;s going to Columbia in the first place. He certainly played a role in his going to Chicago; that cannot be a coincidence.

Simplest hypothesis: Obama was moving up through a Red farm system. (Occidental has long &quot;enjoyed&quot; a reputation as a hard left college, so that fits the pattern as well.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I suspect that Obama made contact with Bill Ayers during his time at Columbia.</i></p>
<p>I take that as a given also. The question is whether Ayers played a role in Obama&#8217;s going to Columbia in the first place. He certainly played a role in his going to Chicago; that cannot be a coincidence.</p>
<p>Simplest hypothesis: Obama was moving up through a Red farm system. (Occidental has long &#8220;enjoyed&#8221; a reputation as a hard left college, so that fits the pattern as well.)</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artfldgr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2012 19:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don Janousek, did you write &quot;What color is your parachute?&quot;  :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Janousek, did you write &#8220;What color is your parachute?&#8221;  🙂</p>
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