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		By: Alex Bensky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Bensky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fifty movies and not enough room for either &quot;Rules of the Game&quot; or &quot;Grand Illusion?&quot; Or for that matter &quot;All Quiet on the western Front&quot;(the Lew Ayres version, although the Richard Thomas one made for tv isn&#039;t bad).

As Richard Saunders points out, no Ealing comedies? (&quot;I&#039;m All Right, Jack&quot; is great; my personal choice would be &quot;Kind Hearts and Coronets&quot;).

Of course, I&#039;m personally offended by no &quot;Police Academy&quot; movie.

It&#039;s too bad that Kurosawa never completed the contemplated sequel to Ran. It was going to be called &quot;Also Ran.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fifty movies and not enough room for either &#8220;Rules of the Game&#8221; or &#8220;Grand Illusion?&#8221; Or for that matter &#8220;All Quiet on the western Front&#8221;(the Lew Ayres version, although the Richard Thomas one made for tv isn&#8217;t bad).</p>
<p>As Richard Saunders points out, no Ealing comedies? (&#8220;I&#8217;m All Right, Jack&#8221; is great; my personal choice would be &#8220;Kind Hearts and Coronets&#8221;).</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m personally offended by no &#8220;Police Academy&#8221; movie.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad that Kurosawa never completed the contemplated sequel to Ran. It was going to be called &#8220;Also Ran.&#8221;</p>
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		By: David Davies		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Davies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 21:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[2001 Space Odyssey Neocon?  I finally rented and watched it a couple of years ago.  

I think Kubrick must have been on acid at least part of the time while making it.

I think one needs to be on acid to enjoy the movie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2001 Space Odyssey Neocon?  I finally rented and watched it a couple of years ago.  </p>
<p>I think Kubrick must have been on acid at least part of the time while making it.</p>
<p>I think one needs to be on acid to enjoy the movie.</p>
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		By: maj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[maj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2012 01:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow - I am shocked - shocked I tell ya - at the lack of love for Vertigo and Citizen Kane. I&#039;ve thought for a long time Vertigo is the greatest film ever made, but I think Kane is easily top 5 or 10. Ho-hum????

I&#039;m surprised Abel Gance&#039;s Napoleon isn&#039;t on the list.

I&#039;m not at all surprised Capra isn&#039;t represented, although I think that&#039;s a travesty.

I&#039;m also shocked Chaplin doesn&#039;t even show up until #50 - if I recall, for decades The Gold Rush was top ten. Guess he&#039;s out of vogue.

But what absolutely stuns me is that Man with a Movie Camera is ranked #8. I agree completely, but I can&#039;t believe any major poll would go there. I can&#039;t even believe it ranked 27 in the previous poll.

It&#039;s a documentary made in the Soviet Union in 1929 by a guy named Dziga Vertov. It&#039;s the basis for the cinema verite movement, although I doubt most practitioners even know that. I don&#039;t think a complete version even existed in the West until the 1970&#039;s. And Vertov was already in the process of falling out of favor with the Soviet leadership, so they certainly weren&#039;t singing his praises. 

It&#039;s just incredible filmmaking, unlike anything most people have ever seen. Vertov wrote a lot about his theories on film, and it gets really complex. Suffice it to say - this film gets described sometimes as an &quot;art&quot; film or a &quot;city symphony&quot;, like Berlin. Those are insults. There&#039;s lots more going on here.

Believe it or not, here it is on YouTube, with the best score I&#039;ve heard, (they used Vertov&#039;s notes for the score).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZkvjWIEcoU


And, heck, even if you don&#039;t appreciate the filmmaking, the slice of life footage from Moscow, Kiev and Odessa in the &#039;20&#039;s is fascinating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; I am shocked &#8211; shocked I tell ya &#8211; at the lack of love for Vertigo and Citizen Kane. I&#8217;ve thought for a long time Vertigo is the greatest film ever made, but I think Kane is easily top 5 or 10. Ho-hum????</p>
<p>I&#8217;m surprised Abel Gance&#8217;s Napoleon isn&#8217;t on the list.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not at all surprised Capra isn&#8217;t represented, although I think that&#8217;s a travesty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also shocked Chaplin doesn&#8217;t even show up until #50 &#8211; if I recall, for decades The Gold Rush was top ten. Guess he&#8217;s out of vogue.</p>
<p>But what absolutely stuns me is that Man with a Movie Camera is ranked #8. I agree completely, but I can&#8217;t believe any major poll would go there. I can&#8217;t even believe it ranked 27 in the previous poll.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a documentary made in the Soviet Union in 1929 by a guy named Dziga Vertov. It&#8217;s the basis for the cinema verite movement, although I doubt most practitioners even know that. I don&#8217;t think a complete version even existed in the West until the 1970&#8217;s. And Vertov was already in the process of falling out of favor with the Soviet leadership, so they certainly weren&#8217;t singing his praises. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just incredible filmmaking, unlike anything most people have ever seen. Vertov wrote a lot about his theories on film, and it gets really complex. Suffice it to say &#8211; this film gets described sometimes as an &#8220;art&#8221; film or a &#8220;city symphony&#8221;, like Berlin. Those are insults. There&#8217;s lots more going on here.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, here it is on YouTube, with the best score I&#8217;ve heard, (they used Vertov&#8217;s notes for the score).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZkvjWIEcoU" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZkvjWIEcoU</a></p>
<p>And, heck, even if you don&#8217;t appreciate the filmmaking, the slice of life footage from Moscow, Kiev and Odessa in the &#8217;20&#8217;s is fascinating.</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 02:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If &lt;i&gt;Casablanca&lt;/i&gt; gets in, &lt;i&gt;It&#039;s A Wonderful Life&lt;/i&gt; should, too. Both those have a certain amount of Hollywood sentimentality on the surface but are steel underneath. 

DNW above said &#039;Imagine the movies you think of as the best “objectively”. Then stop and reflect on what films (if any) you actually do watch repeatedly, say during the holiday seasons&#039;

They actually are largely the same for me. I don&#039;t own many movies but I have all the Bergman from &lt;i&gt;Seventh Seal&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;i&gt;Cries and Whispers&lt;/i&gt;, and they&#039;re like favorite books to me. There aren&#039;t that many movies that I want to see more than once, very very few more than twice. Occasionally a pretty lightweight one strikes me that way--&lt;i&gt;Napoleon Dynamite&lt;/i&gt;!--but it&#039;s not very often.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If <i>Casablanca</i> gets in, <i>It&#8217;s A Wonderful Life</i> should, too. Both those have a certain amount of Hollywood sentimentality on the surface but are steel underneath. </p>
<p>DNW above said &#8216;Imagine the movies you think of as the best “objectively”. Then stop and reflect on what films (if any) you actually do watch repeatedly, say during the holiday seasons&#8217;</p>
<p>They actually are largely the same for me. I don&#8217;t own many movies but I have all the Bergman from <i>Seventh Seal</i> to <i>Cries and Whispers</i>, and they&#8217;re like favorite books to me. There aren&#8217;t that many movies that I want to see more than once, very very few more than twice. Occasionally a pretty lightweight one strikes me that way&#8211;<i>Napoleon Dynamite</i>!&#8211;but it&#8217;s not very often.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 01:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Casablanca might mean more to those who&#039;ve had some acquaintance with the era, at least through parents and history.  Yeah, people on the move, desperation, following a rumor that you can get there from this other place....  Fear.
Hope that maybe whatever it is won&#039;t come here.
That said, the first time I saw the whole thing, I was struck by how tight it was.  Not a single thing went an instant too long, nothing was there that didn&#039;t need to be, the flow was perfect with no telling.  It was showing and beautifully directed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casablanca might mean more to those who&#8217;ve had some acquaintance with the era, at least through parents and history.  Yeah, people on the move, desperation, following a rumor that you can get there from this other place&#8230;.  Fear.<br />
Hope that maybe whatever it is won&#8217;t come here.<br />
That said, the first time I saw the whole thing, I was struck by how tight it was.  Not a single thing went an instant too long, nothing was there that didn&#8217;t need to be, the flow was perfect with no telling.  It was showing and beautifully directed.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 20:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First of all, &quot;Casablanca&quot; is the greatest move ever made, and everybody knows it.  The other commentators have listed wonderful films, and although I might disagree with a few, in general I endorse them all.  But the worst part of this list is the omission of all comedies except &quot;Some Like it Hot.&quot;   No &quot;His Girl Friday&quot; or &quot;Bringing Up Baby?&quot;  No &quot;To Be or Not To Be&quot; or &quot;Stalag 17?&quot;  No &quot;Producers&quot;, &quot;Young Frankenstein&quot;, or &quot;Blazing Saddles?&quot;  No &quot;A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum&quot; or &quot;Life of Brian?&quot;  Speaking of British comedies, no &quot;I&#039;m All Right, Jack&quot; or &quot;The Mouse That Roared?&quot;  Not a single Peter Sellers movie? What&#039;s the matter with these people?  They must think they&#039;re French or something!  No wonder the British lost their Empire!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, &#8220;Casablanca&#8221; is the greatest move ever made, and everybody knows it.  The other commentators have listed wonderful films, and although I might disagree with a few, in general I endorse them all.  But the worst part of this list is the omission of all comedies except &#8220;Some Like it Hot.&#8221;   No &#8220;His Girl Friday&#8221; or &#8220;Bringing Up Baby?&#8221;  No &#8220;To Be or Not To Be&#8221; or &#8220;Stalag 17?&#8221;  No &#8220;Producers&#8221;, &#8220;Young Frankenstein&#8221;, or &#8220;Blazing Saddles?&#8221;  No &#8220;A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum&#8221; or &#8220;Life of Brian?&#8221;  Speaking of British comedies, no &#8220;I&#8217;m All Right, Jack&#8221; or &#8220;The Mouse That Roared?&#8221;  Not a single Peter Sellers movie? What&#8217;s the matter with these people?  They must think they&#8217;re French or something!  No wonder the British lost their Empire!</p>
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		By: matthew49		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 19:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would pick another Hitchcock movie,&quot;North by Northwest&quot;, as the best picture of all time.  Four of the most memorable movie scenes of all time occur in this one movie: the crop-dusting plane scene, the dining car conversation between Cary Grant and Eva Marie Saint,  the auction scene where Grant saves himself by getting arrested, and the scramble across the faces on Mt. Rushmore.

I think other serious contenders for #1 are Gone With the Wind, Lawrence of Arabia, and The Godfather. 

I agree with many of the selections offered in other comments, but let me indulge myself by naming some movies I really love, even though they are never considered for top 50 lists:  She Wore A Yellow Ribbon, Stagecoach, Zulu, Cinema Paradiso, Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House, and Ninotchka.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would pick another Hitchcock movie,&#8221;North by Northwest&#8221;, as the best picture of all time.  Four of the most memorable movie scenes of all time occur in this one movie: the crop-dusting plane scene, the dining car conversation between Cary Grant and Eva Marie Saint,  the auction scene where Grant saves himself by getting arrested, and the scramble across the faces on Mt. Rushmore.</p>
<p>I think other serious contenders for #1 are Gone With the Wind, Lawrence of Arabia, and The Godfather. </p>
<p>I agree with many of the selections offered in other comments, but let me indulge myself by naming some movies I really love, even though they are never considered for top 50 lists:  She Wore A Yellow Ribbon, Stagecoach, Zulu, Cinema Paradiso, Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House, and Ninotchka.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 18:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s odd how after reading so many reasonable comments you begin wondering just what it is that makes a movie &quot;great&quot;?

I&#039;d tend to have to agree with Art, as I was already thinking along those lines, that innovation and excellence of technique have to play a role along with criticism based on the traditional canons of story-telling.

Imagine the movies you think of as the best &quot;objectively&quot;. Then stop and reflect on what films (if any) you actually do watch repeatedly, say during the holiday seasons.

Hitchcock may best straddle that line.

And too, we all probably have seen films that made a huge impression when we first saw them, only to shrink a fair amount with time and with our own changes in perspective. Alien, Blade Runner, Das Boot, and some of the Coen movies (Miller&#039;s Crossing) have had that initial effect on me.

Speaking of Miller&#039;s Crossing and a spate of Depression era and 40&#039;s film references (True Confessions with DeNiro comes to mind), I wonder where Chinatown ranks?

Certainly cinematography, score, and the conveyance of atmosphere have to place Chinatown in the top couple hundred.

Maybe they could start a new category. Best dramatic evocations of an earlier 20th century America. Best wooden screen door slam and train whistle category.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s odd how after reading so many reasonable comments you begin wondering just what it is that makes a movie &#8220;great&#8221;?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d tend to have to agree with Art, as I was already thinking along those lines, that innovation and excellence of technique have to play a role along with criticism based on the traditional canons of story-telling.</p>
<p>Imagine the movies you think of as the best &#8220;objectively&#8221;. Then stop and reflect on what films (if any) you actually do watch repeatedly, say during the holiday seasons.</p>
<p>Hitchcock may best straddle that line.</p>
<p>And too, we all probably have seen films that made a huge impression when we first saw them, only to shrink a fair amount with time and with our own changes in perspective. Alien, Blade Runner, Das Boot, and some of the Coen movies (Miller&#8217;s Crossing) have had that initial effect on me.</p>
<p>Speaking of Miller&#8217;s Crossing and a spate of Depression era and 40&#8217;s film references (True Confessions with DeNiro comes to mind), I wonder where Chinatown ranks?</p>
<p>Certainly cinematography, score, and the conveyance of atmosphere have to place Chinatown in the top couple hundred.</p>
<p>Maybe they could start a new category. Best dramatic evocations of an earlier 20th century America. Best wooden screen door slam and train whistle category.</p>
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		By: Ritchie Emmons		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[neo, I&#039;m late to the game here of course, but wanted to chime in on your sleeper pick of Midnight Run. If a list was made of most underrated movies of all time. MR would have to be on it right near the top. Great story, great character development, great characters, great comedy and great adventure. I read somewhere that the actors were given a ton of leeway to mold their characters as they saw fit. They nailed it.

Another movie that I think is excellent and underrated is Devil In A Blue Dress with Denzel Washington (and Don Cheadle, who steals the show).

A movie theater near me in Boston is playing this month The Wild Bunch, The Big Lebowski, Reservoir Dogs and Jaws. Because of previous commitments, I won&#039;t be able to make all of these. Regrettable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo, I&#8217;m late to the game here of course, but wanted to chime in on your sleeper pick of Midnight Run. If a list was made of most underrated movies of all time. MR would have to be on it right near the top. Great story, great character development, great characters, great comedy and great adventure. I read somewhere that the actors were given a ton of leeway to mold their characters as they saw fit. They nailed it.</p>
<p>Another movie that I think is excellent and underrated is Devil In A Blue Dress with Denzel Washington (and Don Cheadle, who steals the show).</p>
<p>A movie theater near me in Boston is playing this month The Wild Bunch, The Big Lebowski, Reservoir Dogs and Jaws. Because of previous commitments, I won&#8217;t be able to make all of these. Regrettable.</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 11:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m one of those people who thinks Citizen Kane deserved the number 1 spot and I can&#039;t imagine anyone thinking it should go to Vertigo. Oh well. 

I think that Terrence Malick&#039;s The Thin Red Line should have been somewhere on the list, despite a horrendously bad (but mercifully short) cameo by John Travolta. 

I also think that the little gem of a movie Affliction, directed by Paul Schrader should be on the list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of those people who thinks Citizen Kane deserved the number 1 spot and I can&#8217;t imagine anyone thinking it should go to Vertigo. Oh well. </p>
<p>I think that Terrence Malick&#8217;s The Thin Red Line should have been somewhere on the list, despite a horrendously bad (but mercifully short) cameo by John Travolta. </p>
<p>I also think that the little gem of a movie Affliction, directed by Paul Schrader should be on the list.</p>
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