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		By: Media War on Decency &#124; Blue Crab Boulevard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-672086</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Media War on Decency &#124; Blue Crab Boulevard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 22:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] found over at Neo-Neocon&#8217;s place. She has a good takedown of the mendacious media and their war on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] found over at Neo-Neocon&#8217;s place. She has a good takedown of the mendacious media and their war on [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: njcommuter		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-393832</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 22:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The MSM are expert in the rapid deployment of Weapons of Mass Deception.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MSM are expert in the rapid deployment of Weapons of Mass Deception.</p>
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		By: ziontruth		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-393278</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziontruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My idea of curtailing media power abuse isn&#039;t one of censorship but of breaking monopolies. The trouble isn&#039;t that the Far Left are allowed to have a voice but the fact that they are the dominant voice, at least as far as the MSM goes. Although the new media (the blogosphere &#038;c) is not monopolized by the Left in this way, the importance of the non-Internet media is still too high for the Leftist dominance of the MSM not to have dire consequences.

Far too many people get their news only from the non-Internet MSM. Until this changes, it means their chance of getting the non-Marxist point of view is at least 80% (I&#039;m being very reserved here). On the Internet-based media you have a 50-50 chance, which is information choice in a democracy as it should be. What I&#039;m saying is this situation needs to be forced upon the MSM. That&#039;s a &lt;em&gt;true&lt;/em&gt; fairness doctrine, not the sham one that the Left has attempted to drive to cement their already existing MSM monopoly.

There&#039;s just one plausibly conservative news network in the U.S. of A., and in my country the situation is little better; as for Western Europe, the land of &quot;easy-listening tyranny&quot; as Mark Steyn put it, the less said, the better. This monopoly the Left has isn&#039;t just unfair, it&#039;s dangerous, and that&#039;s why it needs to be broken up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My idea of curtailing media power abuse isn&#8217;t one of censorship but of breaking monopolies. The trouble isn&#8217;t that the Far Left are allowed to have a voice but the fact that they are the dominant voice, at least as far as the MSM goes. Although the new media (the blogosphere &amp;c) is not monopolized by the Left in this way, the importance of the non-Internet media is still too high for the Leftist dominance of the MSM not to have dire consequences.</p>
<p>Far too many people get their news only from the non-Internet MSM. Until this changes, it means their chance of getting the non-Marxist point of view is at least 80% (I&#8217;m being very reserved here). On the Internet-based media you have a 50-50 chance, which is information choice in a democracy as it should be. What I&#8217;m saying is this situation needs to be forced upon the MSM. That&#8217;s a <em>true</em> fairness doctrine, not the sham one that the Left has attempted to drive to cement their already existing MSM monopoly.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s just one plausibly conservative news network in the U.S. of A., and in my country the situation is little better; as for Western Europe, the land of &#8220;easy-listening tyranny&#8221; as Mark Steyn put it, the less said, the better. This monopoly the Left has isn&#8217;t just unfair, it&#8217;s dangerous, and that&#8217;s why it needs to be broken up.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-393261</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with physicsguy.

The press shouldn&#039;t be censored.  It&#039;s up to the American people to do their homework.  If they can&#039;t, then we&#039;re in big, big trouble.

The only limits on the press I can envision involves the publishing of classified information.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2006/05/01/question-authority-part-iv-national/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See this&lt;/a&gt;, especially the part about the National Secrets Act in Britain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with physicsguy.</p>
<p>The press shouldn&#8217;t be censored.  It&#8217;s up to the American people to do their homework.  If they can&#8217;t, then we&#8217;re in big, big trouble.</p>
<p>The only limits on the press I can envision involves the publishing of classified information.  <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2006/05/01/question-authority-part-iv-national/" rel="nofollow">See this</a>, especially the part about the National Secrets Act in Britain.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-393252</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 18:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ziontruth,

You seem to miss the whole point of the 1st Amendment.  A publication can be as biased as it wants and is protected by the 1st adm.  The idea is that someone else publishing a completely opposite point of view is also protected.  Freedom of the press/speech means exactly that:  freedom to be as opinonated as you wish.  The real problem is that many people are too lazy to look beyond the MSM... you can&#039;t fix stupid by legislation.

As soon as there are limits on the speech in terms of partisanship, it opens up the whole notion of censorship by the government.   Do you REALLY want that???   The sort of law you propose in limiting the MSM bias, can equally be used to attack more conservative publications, blogs, etc.  Be careful what you wish for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ziontruth,</p>
<p>You seem to miss the whole point of the 1st Amendment.  A publication can be as biased as it wants and is protected by the 1st adm.  The idea is that someone else publishing a completely opposite point of view is also protected.  Freedom of the press/speech means exactly that:  freedom to be as opinonated as you wish.  The real problem is that many people are too lazy to look beyond the MSM&#8230; you can&#8217;t fix stupid by legislation.</p>
<p>As soon as there are limits on the speech in terms of partisanship, it opens up the whole notion of censorship by the government.   Do you REALLY want that???   The sort of law you propose in limiting the MSM bias, can equally be used to attack more conservative publications, blogs, etc.  Be careful what you wish for.</p>
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		By: ziontruth		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-393129</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziontruth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 13:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[physicsguy,

&quot;It&#039;s already there: 1st Amendment.&quot;

How does the 1st Amendment address the issue? The 1st Amendment is what the Marxist-owned media invokes whenever the slightest suggestion of curtailing its power is made.

I see no provision in law, anywhere, for prohibiting the MSM&#039;s partisanship. As with the United Nations, the assumption was made that rogue elements would be held in check by the majority of the good; the scenario of domination by rogues, by evil bodies with a nefarious agenda, was never taken into consideration. Once again the overestimation of humanity has failed good people everywhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>physicsguy,</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s already there: 1st Amendment.&#8221;</p>
<p>How does the 1st Amendment address the issue? The 1st Amendment is what the Marxist-owned media invokes whenever the slightest suggestion of curtailing its power is made.</p>
<p>I see no provision in law, anywhere, for prohibiting the MSM&#8217;s partisanship. As with the United Nations, the assumption was made that rogue elements would be held in check by the majority of the good; the scenario of domination by rogues, by evil bodies with a nefarious agenda, was never taken into consideration. Once again the overestimation of humanity has failed good people everywhere.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-393095</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 12:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art said,
&quot;Occam, i beg to differ…
the 2nd generation after the worst are worse…&quot;

Actually I beg to differ with Art.  As someone who has daily contact with 18-22 year olds, I can state that there is change on the way.  True, the Gen X&#039;ers leave something to desire.  However, the Milleniums (born starting circa 1990) are showing some real grit and common sense, at least to me.

The kids I have been teaching for the last 4-5 years, show a sense of personal responsibility, willingness to work through tough problems without whining, and a dollop of common sense.  True, they ARE young, but I wish I could be around when they come into their own.  My hope for the future took a turn for the better in the last few years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art said,<br />
&#8220;Occam, i beg to differ…<br />
the 2nd generation after the worst are worse…&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually I beg to differ with Art.  As someone who has daily contact with 18-22 year olds, I can state that there is change on the way.  True, the Gen X&#8217;ers leave something to desire.  However, the Milleniums (born starting circa 1990) are showing some real grit and common sense, at least to me.</p>
<p>The kids I have been teaching for the last 4-5 years, show a sense of personal responsibility, willingness to work through tough problems without whining, and a dollop of common sense.  True, they ARE young, but I wish I could be around when they come into their own.  My hope for the future took a turn for the better in the last few years.</p>
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		By: TANSTAAFL		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-393065</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TANSTAAFL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 11:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The time has come for the nation to pass some sensible press control laws.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time has come for the nation to pass some sensible press control laws.</p>
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		By: Can we stop calling the Washington Post a &#34;newspaper&#34; now? &#187; Datechguy&#039;s Blog		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-393058</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Can we stop calling the Washington Post a &#34;newspaper&#34; now? &#187; Datechguy&#039;s Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Oh and Neo-Neocon has the explanation. The Press is at war. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Oh and Neo-Neocon has the explanation. The Press is at war. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: solinski		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/31/the-press-is-at-war/#comment-393007</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[solinski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just shows you, how desperate the Obama&#039;s campain gets. It&#039;s not as David Axelrod lost his touch, it&#039;s just difficult to sell damaged goods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just shows you, how desperate the Obama&#8217;s campain gets. It&#8217;s not as David Axelrod lost his touch, it&#8217;s just difficult to sell damaged goods.</p>
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