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		By: foxmarks		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/13/the-bain-barrage-backlash-brouhaha/#comment-383766</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The presumption that voters are driven by facts will hang us all.

Romney as a felon is but one sortie in the mission to confirm the *feeling* that he’s the evil rich white guy who fired you to buy his wife a fourth Cadillac. All they need to do is keep associating Romney with the unpopular aspects of what we call capitalism. Make Mitt appear to be someone who bends the rules to his advantage, attack him on soft axes like fairness and compassion. Paint him as just the next Republican out of the mold.

Calling the other team liars doesn’t make anyone feel more comfortable and confident about our team. Slinging mud and telling the public that the other side’s mom wears combat boots wins elections. Remember, half the people are dumber than average…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The presumption that voters are driven by facts will hang us all.</p>
<p>Romney as a felon is but one sortie in the mission to confirm the *feeling* that he’s the evil rich white guy who fired you to buy his wife a fourth Cadillac. All they need to do is keep associating Romney with the unpopular aspects of what we call capitalism. Make Mitt appear to be someone who bends the rules to his advantage, attack him on soft axes like fairness and compassion. Paint him as just the next Republican out of the mold.</p>
<p>Calling the other team liars doesn’t make anyone feel more comfortable and confident about our team. Slinging mud and telling the public that the other side’s mom wears combat boots wins elections. Remember, half the people are dumber than average…</p>
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		By: njartis49		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/13/the-bain-barrage-backlash-brouhaha/#comment-383369</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 23:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind is not the king, but is made the court jester: the two eyed man is crucified.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind is not the king, but is made the court jester: the two eyed man is crucified.</p>
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		By: thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/13/the-bain-barrage-backlash-brouhaha/#comment-383334</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 20:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of big lies; this one is similar to the really big ones the left maintains as their raison d&#039;éªtre. There is a big business conspiracy that uses money to control government policy and influence, via marketing, to control the public. Re: we need their enlightened leadership to save us from it. 
There was a righty meme going around about how Obama might have just worn out the concept of ‘cool’ being good… by being a personification of it while also being petty and a failure (re: putting in people’s mind that petty and looser have a lot in common with cool). 
Along similar lines; I wonder if the left might do some long term demographic damage to themselves by putting a spot light on their economic conspiracy theories in general (via a debate over Bain).. getting people to really think about them for some time… and realize how bs they are… and ergo; how bs the left is. 

I say; lets talk Bain 24/7.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of big lies; this one is similar to the really big ones the left maintains as their raison d&#8217;éªtre. There is a big business conspiracy that uses money to control government policy and influence, via marketing, to control the public. Re: we need their enlightened leadership to save us from it.<br />
There was a righty meme going around about how Obama might have just worn out the concept of ‘cool’ being good… by being a personification of it while also being petty and a failure (re: putting in people’s mind that petty and looser have a lot in common with cool).<br />
Along similar lines; I wonder if the left might do some long term demographic damage to themselves by putting a spot light on their economic conspiracy theories in general (via a debate over Bain).. getting people to really think about them for some time… and realize how bs they are… and ergo; how bs the left is. </p>
<p>I say; lets talk Bain 24/7.</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/13/the-bain-barrage-backlash-brouhaha/#comment-383195</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WAIT!!!!!! Romney&#039;s mom wears Army boots!?!?!?!?! Does CNN know about this?????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAIT!!!!!! Romney&#8217;s mom wears Army boots!?!?!?!?! Does CNN know about this?????</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/13/the-bain-barrage-backlash-brouhaha/#comment-383153</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama long ago gave up on the pretense of saying anything true.  He&#039;s now given up the pretense of saying anything rational.  Remember the idiot who claimed Obama wasn&#039;t a big spender because his analysis placed the stimulus under Bush.  Obama embraced it and hyped it despite the fact that it was completely ridiculous.

Obama and his campaign are now reduced to pointing fingers and claiming that Romney&#039;s mom wears army boots.  They throw out any nonsense that comes up simply if it sounds bad for their opponent.  They gave up thinking a few months ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama long ago gave up on the pretense of saying anything true.  He&#8217;s now given up the pretense of saying anything rational.  Remember the idiot who claimed Obama wasn&#8217;t a big spender because his analysis placed the stimulus under Bush.  Obama embraced it and hyped it despite the fact that it was completely ridiculous.</p>
<p>Obama and his campaign are now reduced to pointing fingers and claiming that Romney&#8217;s mom wears army boots.  They throw out any nonsense that comes up simply if it sounds bad for their opponent.  They gave up thinking a few months ago.</p>
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		By: OlderandWheezier		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/13/the-bain-barrage-backlash-brouhaha/#comment-382993</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[texexec:  now you&#039;ve done it]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>texexec:  now you&#8217;ve done it</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/13/the-bain-barrage-backlash-brouhaha/#comment-382982</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[to win an election you have to have one...

their references to Lincoln and his suspension of parts of it, are telling you whats on their minds.. there are a few new orders that let them suspend it and elections.  

so perhaps the whole conversation about elections for the year is a waste if there are no elections and they are put off due to the big conflict.  and if the have a big war, with social civil unrest here, then there wont be an election. 

lets ignore it. 

on another note, Krauthammer points out that the military in the Arab spring thing, dissolved parliament because the radical Islamist had enough representation to rewrite the constitution and make a new one. 

such bad generals, eh?

lets ignore it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to win an election you have to have one&#8230;</p>
<p>their references to Lincoln and his suspension of parts of it, are telling you whats on their minds.. there are a few new orders that let them suspend it and elections.  </p>
<p>so perhaps the whole conversation about elections for the year is a waste if there are no elections and they are put off due to the big conflict.  and if the have a big war, with social civil unrest here, then there wont be an election. </p>
<p>lets ignore it. </p>
<p>on another note, Krauthammer points out that the military in the Arab spring thing, dissolved parliament because the radical Islamist had enough representation to rewrite the constitution and make a new one. </p>
<p>such bad generals, eh?</p>
<p>lets ignore it&#8230;</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hurry up and read it before neo cuts it down.. 

your opposition has had years to study, you only get 10 minutes to get a cut down version that is easy to ignore given its size, the time, and so on. 

after all, what you learn from childhood under davis, mentors, and college and such, can easily be refuted in a paragraph. 

this is why they are going to win and they ARE Winning and winning is a done deal already

they have spent a lifetime of preparing and learning and so on. and their victims find that cramming for the test inst as much fun as talking endlessly over nothings 

lets have a presidential debate
Obama gets an hour per question
Romney gets 5 minutes AFTER obama
[if his comments are still too long we will just cut him off at the mike]

who wins? 

Isnt it nice that we create that same situation all the time between press and discussions? 

your not going to figure out 140 years of social engineering games without a guide. 

even Dante had Virgil 
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;Virgil quoting Beatrice&quot;&gt;
&quot;‘In Heaven there’s a gentle lady — one
who weeps for the distress toward which I send you,
so that stern judgment up above is shattered.
And it was she who called upon Lucia,
requesting of her: &quot;Now your faithful one
has need of you, and I commend him to you.&quot;
Lucia, enemy of every cruelty,
arose and made her way to where I was,
sitting beside the venerable Rachel.
She said: &quot;You, Beatrice, true praise of God,
why have you not helped him who loves you so
that — for your sake — he’s left the vulgar crowd?
Do you not hear the anguish in his cry?
Do you not see the death he wars against
upon that river ruthless as the sea?&quot;
No one within this world has ever been
so quick to seek his good or flee his harm
as I…’&quot; (Inf. II, 94-111)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

if the authors i am copying are longer than the allowed posts, then i guess only the leftists who spent their lives studying it and reading it, and learning it, and discussing it among themselves. have all the advantage and i am on the wrong side of the outcome

having graduate level topics reduced to junior high level cliff notes that agree with PC focuses from media, is frustrating.

but more frustrating is that even cliff note versions are way too big and complicated and boring. 

you know... its as boring as reading a first aid manual...  and the first aid manual is dark and grim too...  so why bother with a first aid manual when you don&#039;t need it. when they cut your leg off, THAT&#039;S when you should start reading the manual. right? 

nope... the patient is dying on the table, and the first aid manual is still too boring for the surgeons to bother with... they will cram at the last second just as the machine goes from beep to single tone... 

then their children will wonder how it happened

just as the children in Germany and all wondered how it happened. 

Just as norm Thomas told you it would happen!!!  [who&#039;s he? ]

hope someone read it before it was all gone.. 

the war will be a surprise despite everything as its better to ignore the unthinkable as women do, than engage the problem as men do.  let me know how that works out...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hurry up and read it before neo cuts it down.. </p>
<p>your opposition has had years to study, you only get 10 minutes to get a cut down version that is easy to ignore given its size, the time, and so on. </p>
<p>after all, what you learn from childhood under davis, mentors, and college and such, can easily be refuted in a paragraph. </p>
<p>this is why they are going to win and they ARE Winning and winning is a done deal already</p>
<p>they have spent a lifetime of preparing and learning and so on. and their victims find that cramming for the test inst as much fun as talking endlessly over nothings </p>
<p>lets have a presidential debate<br />
Obama gets an hour per question<br />
Romney gets 5 minutes AFTER obama<br />
[if his comments are still too long we will just cut him off at the mike]</p>
<p>who wins? </p>
<p>Isnt it nice that we create that same situation all the time between press and discussions? </p>
<p>your not going to figure out 140 years of social engineering games without a guide. </p>
<p>even Dante had Virgil </p>
<blockquote cite="Virgil quoting Beatrice"><p>
&#8220;‘In Heaven there’s a gentle lady — one<br />
who weeps for the distress toward which I send you,<br />
so that stern judgment up above is shattered.<br />
And it was she who called upon Lucia,<br />
requesting of her: &#8220;Now your faithful one<br />
has need of you, and I commend him to you.&#8221;<br />
Lucia, enemy of every cruelty,<br />
arose and made her way to where I was,<br />
sitting beside the venerable Rachel.<br />
She said: &#8220;You, Beatrice, true praise of God,<br />
why have you not helped him who loves you so<br />
that — for your sake — he’s left the vulgar crowd?<br />
Do you not hear the anguish in his cry?<br />
Do you not see the death he wars against<br />
upon that river ruthless as the sea?&#8221;<br />
No one within this world has ever been<br />
so quick to seek his good or flee his harm<br />
as I…’&#8221; (Inf. II, 94-111)</p></blockquote>
<p>if the authors i am copying are longer than the allowed posts, then i guess only the leftists who spent their lives studying it and reading it, and learning it, and discussing it among themselves. have all the advantage and i am on the wrong side of the outcome</p>
<p>having graduate level topics reduced to junior high level cliff notes that agree with PC focuses from media, is frustrating.</p>
<p>but more frustrating is that even cliff note versions are way too big and complicated and boring. </p>
<p>you know&#8230; its as boring as reading a first aid manual&#8230;  and the first aid manual is dark and grim too&#8230;  so why bother with a first aid manual when you don&#8217;t need it. when they cut your leg off, THAT&#8217;S when you should start reading the manual. right? </p>
<p>nope&#8230; the patient is dying on the table, and the first aid manual is still too boring for the surgeons to bother with&#8230; they will cram at the last second just as the machine goes from beep to single tone&#8230; </p>
<p>then their children will wonder how it happened</p>
<p>just as the children in Germany and all wondered how it happened. </p>
<p>Just as norm Thomas told you it would happen!!!  [who&#8217;s he? ]</p>
<p>hope someone read it before it was all gone.. </p>
<p>the war will be a surprise despite everything as its better to ignore the unthinkable as women do, than engage the problem as men do.  let me know how that works out&#8230;</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/13/the-bain-barrage-backlash-brouhaha/#comment-382972</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frank my Dad&#039;s quote on that is &quot;He&#039;d lie, if the truth sounded better&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank my Dad&#8217;s quote on that is &#8220;He&#8217;d lie, if the truth sounded better&#8221;</p>
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		By: Tom		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2012/07/13/the-bain-barrage-backlash-brouhaha/#comment-382969</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the Democrats are seeing some numbers that scare the sh!t out of them. I&#039;ve thought it for a while, because they keep making these really desperate moves. I think they know something that no one else is talking about. One possible thing is that if you look at the polls from reputable firms, using an LV screen rather than an A or RV screen, they all seem to show Romney with at least a 1-2 point lead over Obama. This usually translates to a larger lead when the actual votes are cast. More evidence might be the fund raising deficit from last month. I have been thinking for a while that we are on the verge of another election like 2010 (albeit not as bad, because there just isn&#039;t as much turf to gain), and I think they know it.

Love the preview function btw!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Democrats are seeing some numbers that scare the sh!t out of them. I&#8217;ve thought it for a while, because they keep making these really desperate moves. I think they know something that no one else is talking about. One possible thing is that if you look at the polls from reputable firms, using an LV screen rather than an A or RV screen, they all seem to show Romney with at least a 1-2 point lead over Obama. This usually translates to a larger lead when the actual votes are cast. More evidence might be the fund raising deficit from last month. I have been thinking for a while that we are on the verge of another election like 2010 (albeit not as bad, because there just isn&#8217;t as much turf to gain), and I think they know it.</p>
<p>Love the preview function btw!</p>
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